posted Sun, 05/20/2012 - 18:16
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+ 11 THE RECOVERY LOUNGE!....N/A, A/A, C/A, or any other Anonymous drug program!
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Welcome to the recovery lounge, this is safe place where eroid members can talk about recovery, steroids and recovery, or any other topic! There seems to be many of us here on eroids, there will surely be different fellowships in here and they are all welcome! Other eroid brothers are welcome to come and join the lounge if they would like, its open to the public!
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The motivation is back, and it feels good.
Not training made me feel like a loser. Doing too much drugs, same thing.
Recently celebrated 14 years and couldn’t be more grateful. Hope all is well for the brothers here in recovery.
Great message. Thanks for sharing. 14 years Rocks~! Please keep sharing your experience, strength and Hope.
I'm "Buzz" been sober for 18 months. In the fellowship performance enhancers are very frowned upon. Anyone else run into this?
Hey Buzz!@@ Congrats on 18 months keep it. I am Living in Recovery since 2008. I attended a lot of 12 step meetings & used roids for 12 years before covid19. I used this group to be accountable because nobody I ever met in meetings would have been supportive of taking prescription medication without medical supervision. Get a sponsor, get a service position, build a network, use a step working guide, learn to meditate. Some people in this group have found sponsors they could be completely honest with. I never have found that guy. I don't think for me Testosterone or deca or tren etc. that I self prescribed, had the same kind of negative effects on my life or my health as alcohol or other prescriptions. I never found a Doctor that would prescribe for me. By the time I found a Doctor at my gym that was helping other men, I didn't feel like I really needed his help. There are Doctors that are willing to help. Quitting Roids was difficult for me at the end of cycles, suggesting roids may be addictive, but I was able to follow a taper down schedule, not as quickly as I wanted 100%, but eventually. Respect~!
When covid come along March 2020, I took my last dose the last day my gym was open. I did not suffer any withdrawal. Home gym is just not for me,(struggling with that) & I'm not working out in a mask, My favorite Golds Gym membership ended because they closed all 10 stores in my area. I do not know if I will start to use roids again, but not going to use until I join a gym & hit plateau again. 60 years old now, staying clean gets easier with more clean time. I am grateful for this group & sponsorship.
Err Buddy - I would never admit to using steroids in an AA meeting. I can imagine that going down like an Atomic bomb!! Lol I've been asked in one before and I just said 'No' - Leave it at that. Most of them there still smoke like their life depends on it anyway and can't manage to kick that habit so just leave the steroid topic out of it all :-) People that don't lift will never get 'it' anyway ....
BCrabtree84Man this place really is a graveyard huh?
I guess that's a good thing
Glad you found us~! I'm an Addict named John. I'm staying Clean too. ODAT~!
BCrabtree84My names Brian and I’m an addict. Been in and out of rooms since 2011. I’ve been clean this time since Sept 11,2020. I’ve read some of the posts here and I wanna say I’m really grateful to have found this and look forward to interacting with everyone. Proud of you all. On my way to gym but will talk more later
TesTobolinHi brian,
I hope your doing well in your sobriety still. How have you been getting on my friend?
Nice one Bud - Be strong and keep it up :-)
Hello everyone, so I have been clean off heroin for now for two years, I leaned myself off Suboxone, and am doing well.
Very Well done mate :-))
Well done. Keep it up my man. I just hit 20 yrs. No looking back .
ChoadHi y’all...I’m two weeks clean and feelin good!!
God is great!!
Hey Mate - That's Brilliant
What were you using?
ChoadMostly just smoking bud but I’ve struggled hard with sex addiction! I know it sounds stupid but when your married it’s a big problem and my wife swears pharmaci, steroids in this case, is satanic...seems I trade one evil for another...really gotta get a grip on the libido during my next cycle....
Celebrating 12 years today clean~! Thanks Eroids, y'all make this journey with me, One Day at a Time.. Thanks to the 12 Steps, my Higher Power, the people of who came before me, and the newcomers. I attend meetings regularly, maintain conscious conscience with a Higher Power to pray and meditate everyday, live the 12 Steps, call my sponsor often, answer the phone for sponsees, read recovery literature, keep my service commitments. Making the World a better place Just for Today. Love you~! Thanks for reading this.
Yukon_JackCongratulations bro. it's either more god or more dope for me. keep it up
Nice one Mate - Wishing you all the Happiness in the World :-)))
6 Years Sober from the drink today :-)
Great Job.....
Thanks Buddy :-)
Congratulations~! Living the Dream~! Thanks for sharing~!
Cheers mate - means a lot :-))
Anyone else feel like subboxen takin in higher doses to curve withdrawal caused them to have permanent stomach issues and or gastrointestinal problems
Are you eating enough and drinking enough water everyday?
So I was talking to a friend the other day about AA meetings, or lack there of at the moment, and the question arose as to how alot of us, particularly "the new-comer", are dealing w/the inability to attend meetings.
I generally try to hit a couple meetings a month give or take. Personally, I've had zero issues w/the lack of meetings. But I'm not a militant 12 stepper. I basically just go to recharge and relax within the fellowship. Ive got a friend whos running online meetings via zoom. But that just seems chaotic to me.
So how has your experience been through covid w/the lack of brick and mortar meetings?
I must admit there has been 1 instance where I really fancied going to an AA meeting again during the virus but then realised they would be the last thing that would be allowed during the pandemic. I'm sure many will have relapsed during it, I know my building has been full of people getting drunk most nights.
Steroids play a big part in my success at life after 10 years of drug and alcohol abuse. I get to scratch the proverbial itch in a way that is much healthier (if done intelligently) and it benefits my family. My wife is much happier with the libido improvements. The self confidence I’ve gained through juicing has translated to my career where after multiple promotions, I can provide for my family in a way that I never thought possible. I can go on and on about this, but the short version is this stuff saved my life.
Nice man :-))
I’m coming up on 2 years clean May 9th. It’s been rough but never as bad as it was before. Lately I’ve been struggling though wondering if I can even count my clean time while blasting and cruising. I don’t know why, because honestly this lifestyle has benefitted me in a way beyond belief, self love, self confidence, happiness, and I can look in a mirror and be happy with what I see. Anyone else ever struggled with this?
Being sober is more than putting down the drug. Its a 180 degree way of thinking and change for the better. Unless you start relapsing (stinking thinking, old behavior, self centeredness) which is what a relapse is. Happens way before you pick the drug back up. But i dont believe juicing counts as that. My opinion. I have 10 years off drugs and drinking but daily practicing what i was taught on relapse prevention and cognitive behavior. I also turned my life and will over to the care of Jesus Christ and i hear "how can you be a Christian but your juicing?!" I am not perfect and i have faults which is why i need my higher power and never claim to be perfect. I always say "i may not be as Good as i should be but thank God im better than i used to be!" I always struggle with if juicing is using or the breaking the law part but i make sure that if i ever start "relapsing" mentally then maybe i will give it up. But after jail i did 90 days in halfway house then 2 yrs in a sober house while on probation so i have enough tools in my tool box and a supportive network if juicing turns me in the other direction. When im juicing and working out im not even thinking about drugs because i know drugs will reverse all the physical hard work in half the time. Dont feel like starting over at 165lbs. This is all my opinion only.
So is it just the legality of steroids that you feel they are wrong?
What if you lived in a county where they are legal..,would it still be an issue?
Then i wouldnt have a problem with it. Hormone replacement is different than using heroin, liquor to escape my problems and not deal with it. I was using them as a way out. I dont abuse steroids like the old WWF wrestlers of old. Anything can be abused. Its the intention your using it and the reason your using something that makes it right or wrong. Now when i start making steroids my idol or it causes me to commit sins is when i believe i have crossed over and its time to lay it to bed. Its not first in my life so right now its not threatening my integrity as a man, father or husband. When my priorities become jumbled or reversed from 1. Sobriety 2. Family 3. Job, then im doing wrong. Steroids will never be in that top 3 priority list of my life.
Solid reply..,keep fighting the good fight brother!
This is my personal opinion. In the NA/AA halls the elders would cringe at my view on this and im sure i wouldnt be allowed to be a member in certain groups. I just wouldnt relate it with my sober date at all. I just hope it helps 208lifts struggle with feeling he is violating his sobriety if he hears more opinions on it. One should feel comfortable with what he is doing. Its sucks having that jiminy cricket on your shoulder.
Hey congrats on the 2 years! Something I have noticed is, the negative stigma around gear, that comes from so many people using it in extremely uneducated ways and inevitably suffering negative long term effects, causes many others in recovery to have judgments about gear without any first hand knowledge. Hell, one of my friends in recovery told me he didn't think Hafthor uses gear because he doesn't look like a bodybuilder! Anyway, before I get too far off topic and into a rant, My opinion on gear and recovery is, it's completely on the user to decide if they are being rigorously honest with themselves, or if they are in denial. I know some guys that would absolutely be using if they jumped on gear, because they would willingly do it compulsively and without any attempt to educate themselves. It would be a horrible disaster. I think most people who wind up on eroids and are making the effort to do this as rationally as they can, then they're likely not using. BUT if it's causing negative outcomes in other areas of their life, and they refuse to accept that, then there might be some using going on there.
There's also something to be said about compounds like tren, and about short or no ester versions of compounds. These things for sure have the potential to generate an active addiction/compulsion. Not to say we can't use them, but I think my point there is fairly obvious.
Totally agree buddy. Honestly i may be addicted to the juice because i dont want to stop it but right now its not causing me to act in any way deceitful, and im not putting over my priorities like i did with the dope. 1. Sobriety 2. Family 3. Job and in that exact order.
I asked my Sponsor prior to juicing. He actually told me he did not approve of it but he couldnt find any reason I would have to change my clean date based on steroid use alone. I have 11 years clean and have been juicing on and off for about 10 of them.
I look at it like this, if a junky wanted to get loaded and you handed them a pin with any kind of juice in it would they be happy with the results?
and secondly, as addicts its easy for some of us to get caught up in various addictions and that list is long! The way I view a relapse behavior is by asking myself if it is causing any kind of problems in my life. Basic addict stuff like rent money, neglecting bills, mood swings, aggresiveness, things of sorts. Because I view it that way it has likely helped me control how I respond to certain drugs. Meaning how I feel inside doesnt get translated outside of me.
essentially my sponsor knows I juice and it doesnt effect me in anyway. that said I dont tell anybody else since its not really something I want to share with outhers.
I believe using gear should not effect your clean time. As long as it doesn't interfere with your sobriety and becomes an obsession. In other-words doing it the proper way. If your sponsor and others don't go to the gym or never juiced they will base their opinion on it off the lies they have been told over the decades about steroids being bad and wrong.
But I would be against juicing for someone who just got clean for at least a yr. Same as the srs dating issue.
There brain and body needs time to reset before pumping hormones into it. Also they may not be mature enough and focus too much time on the juice and gym. Then recovery takes a back seat and they usually relapse.
My old sponsor was strict on dating in the halls when your new in recovery. He used to say "you cant start a car with 2 dead batteries" lol. I have seen very few relationships in the halls end up successful in early recovery. We would be looking for girls at meetings and he would say "up every skirt there is a slip"
I've been checking out the Felines today, Lockdown is easing up here slightly now and the nice weather is bringing them out to play. Loads out running too - my next chick is definitely going to be into fitness and have a nice toned little body. That way I won't get hassled either when I want to train for a few hours on a night instead of talking to her LOL
Yes the fitness felines is what you want. Stay away from the dented can getting her 6th 24hr coin or keytag this year lol
Congrats on two years.
208 Great question~! I'm working on 12 years (08/22/2008). I had a difficult in my head about claiming recovery while taking testosterone, tren, deca, or whatever. For me those substances are mood altering and beneficial. Withdrawal is painful when i go off cycle. Sounds like symptoms of addiction to me. I regularly attend 12-step meetings, read recovery literature, do service to my community, participate in sponsorship. I asked my sponsor(man with 35 years of Recovery and sponsorship) once about ordering prescription drugs online without a Rx. He said "Do what you need to do, but I'll ask you to change your clean date." NA teaches we must abstain from all drugs without a prescription and doctor supervision. It is not a simple situation. Cycling AS is complicated, and my doctor is no help on this topic. I feel like my lack of trust and honesty with others on this topic puts a barrier between me and people I care about. I am willing to live with all this. Benefits of Anabolic steroids is worth it. You have to decide for yourself. Be cautious and self-aware. Be well~!
Thankyou man, and congratulations!! That’s awesome!! Honestly helps knowing I’m not the only one in recovery pursuing this lifestyle.
Pounds23I'd like to know some people's take if it's okay and if it's possible to train taking Subutex or subs? Not abusing them taking them responsible small pieces just when needed? Kinda curious about this topic... I'll give my thought I think if it's a small piece for the day and u need it to be able to do daily stuff train work and be able to hang about eat ur meals. Always with the intention once ur ready and tolerance has been worked down to come off them obv u don't wanna stay on those long either, but I would admagin it's a much better thing to take and use other then say methadone.... What's ur guys thoughts can u bb and use subs for a short period till u transaction off? Idk if anyone is doing it or if it can be done successful and it not be a huge issue to where it's pointless to train ?
Hey man great question. I'm not making ANY solid claims, but in my experience using subs and running gear, I have had a positive synergistic effect. For one, long term opiate use lower testosterone enough to cause secondary hypogonadism. So, building heeps of muscle naturally while using subs long term, after having used heroin or whatever for years before that, just isn't likely. But obviously when running test that is no longer an issue. So that's an example of how gear aids subs. Subs also aid gear for me, in the sense of, compounds that normally cause insomnia, simply do not. That's about as far as i'm willing to go without getting too out there in my anecdotal claims. The problem is tho, that cycling isn't a great method while running opiates due to their suppressive nature. So more people turn to blasting and cruising. And that's just the more rational people. Many MORE people turn to blasting and blasting because they came off the streets and now all the want is BIGGER NOW. Until 3-5 years later when they are in meetings condemning steroids because they "ruined their health".