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Howdy fellas,
Hoping to get a littlw advice on something. SSRIs withdrawl is a bit of a beast to deal with. My understanding is that some of the symptoms are similar to Benzo's withdrawl so figured some of you lads might know about the ''Brain Zap' symptoms. Its a crazy one where even you moving your eyes constantly causes a crazy surreal electric zap where nothing feels real... very strange.
Question is, is there anything holistic that can lessen such withdrawl symptoms? (Not meds just natural/holistic things)
Anyone got any ideas or experience with this thatbthey could share?!!
I don't have a suggestion but I just wanted to say, I honestly I thought I was the only one who felt this. I thought I was crazy! It happens when I go a couple days without Lexapro. Such a surreal feeling. I hope you find a way to lessen the withdrawals.
Chwers fella, Yeah its pretty bad. You can expect that feeling 24/7 at first when you come off the lexapro. It seems all the ssri's withdrawl are very similar (sertraline for me).
I am thinking its actually a sort of brain damage/growth thing whereby new pathways are firing. Its insane, there are fireworks (like welding light) shooting off in your eyes... even weeks later.
This is what i have found so far....
Caffeine conaumption makes a difference... minimise caffeine if possible
Sleep really mattera... its worse when tired. A nap during day + early nights with normal time to rise ses to be a big factor.
Alcohol does not help in any way. This stuff cannot be dulled that way
Just wanted to say thanks for starting this thread. Grateful to be clean. My Clean date in NA = 2008. I am that guy that woke up and said i gotta find a new way to live. Off gear now, since August. My workouts are a cruel joke. Last 2 cycles(Tren A + Test Pro) failed to gain any weight, sources were highly reputable US Dom. Diagnosed with AIDS 1999, unable to find Doctor that will assist in Anabolic Steroid use. Fearful if I press my Doctor for help, and admit to using illegal drugs to self-medicate, he will no longer treat me. 56yo, 5'10", Down to like 165#, no drive for anything. I have some gear but i should pitch my old AS stock, and start over, after like 30days of consistent training? My Doc is not cooperative, I know I'm repeating. Any encouragement would be appreciated. Please suggest a cycle, or source would be great too. Deciding between Equipoise 300mg 60ml for 16 weeks, or Deca 300mg/ml for 12 weeks, with Test E 300mg/ml. I don't use orals because of liver damage. I've done 6 cycles, & never done PCT perfectly. It was suggested by some one i respect i should post my challenge to stay clean and healthy, in spite of prognosis, up to this forum, & expect some brutality. Seeking Experience, Strength, & Hope. This group is kinda my higher power today. If you are new to recovery please know whatever your challenge today someone has already been through similar challenges and stayed clean. Your situation will get better if you follow the principles of honesty, open-mindedness, and willingness. I have never regretted following the suggestions in NA basic text. Thanks for reading this.
First of all, congratulations on getting clean & staying clean!! Now as far as the AIDS, how is that affecting you & is a DR helping you with that treatment?
Brother it’s apparent that you’ve made some bad decisions in your life & it’s cost you & you’ve been through a lot & you’re still facing a lot. Man, most of us have been there. The good news is your past does not define who you are today. You have a choice to be whatever you decide to be. For example, clean, strong, self accountable, in shape & I could go on & on. Those are all situations that you have control over if you decide to take control over it! You admit to self medicating with steroids. You recognize & take accountability for it, but what do you do about it? You see my friend your problem is much deeper than needing a cycle or a source. Your problem is on the inside & steroids doesn’t fix it. So, what you need to do before anything else is take care of you. You seem very discouraged, depressed & despondent. Bro steroids don’t fix that & in many circumstances it elevates them. Do you spend too much time focusing on regrets and/or mistakes & circumstances that you have no control over? All that time is wasted time & it’s a vicious downward spiral that leads to hopelessness. You have to CHOOSE to be positive! You have to choose to not focus on things you cannot change or the things you have no power over & focus on those things you can control! You’re setting yourself up for failure following the plan you have now & even with another cycle. Gear doesn’t cause you to focus on workouts, focus on diet & make all the lifestyle changes that you need. It’s a waste of your time & money if your mind isn’t right! Take some time to focus on you & those things you need to change & move forward in progress. Minute by minute, hour by hour & day to day. There’s help if you desire it & you’re not alone. Feel free to send me a friend request & pm me anytime. Also, I started a new group for depression, anxiety & PTSD
https://www.eroids.com/og/depressionanxiety-discussion
I remember watching or reading something about fentanyl some time ago and how it's killing people on a large scale in the US and Canada. I had no doubt it would be here in the UK before long. And yes it's here to.
Bumped into an old friend from my lost years days and he's well and truly addicted to the stuff. He always smoked H on foil and thought at first that he'd got some very pure heroin, after talking to some of the others he'd see when he went to get his H it turns out he'd been buying fentanyl and not heroin. Said it looks and runs on foil exactly the same, just tastes a little different. I know what they cut heroin with to make it run on foil so im guessing they just use the same stuff.
It makes me fucking sick to hear these unscrupulous dealers have give no fucks other than making cash off of the backs of these poor souls. And what's been happening over the pond is sure enough going to be happening over hear with accidental od's and death.
7 months clean here. Grateful for this post
Dafaq, everybodys cured?
No. pip's so bad we cant type. lol.
LMFAO
Struggling right here.... I am still clean and approaching 2 years. My problem is fixing all the bullshit behaviors and character defects that I had because a lot of them are still here.
Example, I’m in a relationship with an amazing girl and am completely in love with her, knew it from day one. My problem is other women. I like the attention, I love beautiful girls, and granted I haven’t cheated I’m still struggling with being an honest and faithful man. On a social media app I was messaging like 3 girls just small talk and flirting but don’t know why because I have a girl and wouldn’t trade her for any one of them but still I did this? She saw the messages while holding onto my phone while I was back getting a CT scan in the hospital and it broke her heart. She said it was just as bad as me cheating. I get it too. We’re still together and I’ve deleted every social media source that I had, but I still need to address it and be honest with myself. I don’t want to hurt her ever again and I’m trying hard but Indont want to be a liar anymore I want to be a good person man and it’s fuckin hard it eats me up. I lied to survive out there and it just comes so natural still to this day. I need help in this area before I lose what matters most to me.
http://recovering-couples.org/
See if there is any meetings in your area....No its not a place to hook up with girls....lol....its a place to learn how to treat yours, a 12 step program you do with her.
Your still looking for that feel good. Remove your drug of choice and the attention from the opposite sex is your new high. You reconized the problem that is the first step. We don't get well overnight. Its a process.
Hardly brother. Just living this dream one day at a time. Life on life's terms. Shit is incredibly challenging some days, and even more rewarding others. Today was a rewarding day for me.
Its supposed to be that way, without experiencing lows we wouldnt appreciate the highs. simply put, the harder it is the more I smile at how great the reward will be. With my Career path I work my ass off for 4 months and then get 2 slow months and repeat. Countless times i think at about 6-8 weeks of everyday, 12+ hour days, its gonna be Fkn great to take a mini vacation or buy something i want. I used to hate the days that where challenging, but somehow ive got to the point that I long for them. Weird? maybe! I like the challenge and love the triumph. I remember having a meeting once that was for couples, you basically learn to communicate with your spouse and work a 12 step program together. was a really cool fellowship called recovering couples anonymous. Anyway, I was sitting their owning up to how I had said something to my spouse that i shouldnt have and somebody ended up saying "dont worry, God will give you another opportunity!" And you know he did, she pissed me off everyday for months! lol.....
This is the most beautiful thread I’ve ever seen on a forum. I’m happy to announce WE celebrated 19 months clean on the 4th.
It’s so surreal and a beautiful thing. My life now compared to where I was is incredible. From homelessness to jails to prisons it was a messed up state of being.
I couldn’t have done it without my God and the great people that surround me.
I’m new to Eroids but am glad you all have a thread like this! Thanks guys!
Well I made it to a 9 year chip........But more importantly to peace of mind. I certainly chose to make many bad decisions, which ultimately led me down a path where i had lost the ability to make good decisions on a regular basis. And while i had drugs and money abundant, I had the police wanting to put me in prison for a decade. I wasnt broken, tired, or drugs just simply didnt work anymore. No my story is that I was still having a party and really no intentions of quitting. And i damn sure didnt relate drug use to feelings. My life was just great as far as I was concerned. I loved selling dope, loved the women it brought, loved the money, loved even out smarting the law, I was addicted to the rush of it all. I had worked very hard to achieve such status, going to cop 5 pounds of meth at a time during my peak, that was about every 14 days. I Fkn had life by the balls and lived like it was my last day to many times. Corvettes, camaro, truck, street bikes, mustang, bought my house(I literally had all those in the driveway at one time).....And i got high for any damn reason and none at all, I was the best damn drug addict I could be
I say all this for one simple reason, I wasnt ready to quit, I had become so used to the insanity it was normal, and I was absolutely terrified of loosing all that power. That ego, that place that SO MANY people would put me, above other drug users. I was different Damn it!!!!!
But I was humbled by a man, I seen him once and never again. My God must have put him in that room that day. He simply said that drug dealing was making a living off other peoples misery, and I was crushed!
I gave it all up, everything! didnt have a job, no money, no way to make money, no dream. I was lost! started working steps and learning that i didnt know shit about myself, and that I ran from everything hard in my life with my blame thrower. And that made me feel even worse.
But I did EVERYTHING I was told to do and I put everything I had into it. I didnt know if it would work! But there was one thing I knew for sure, the only thing different between me and everybody else in the room that talked about some pretty bad lows....was time
I say all of this just simply to say, the program works! I successfully have stayed clean without a single relapse for over nine years. My life is so full and meaningful now, I really dont even know that person in the first paragraph. The only thing me and that guy have in common, is I try to be the best damn me I can be!
Give the program a try, use the same effort you use to get loaded and your recovery will be unbelievable.
Trust me, if i can do this you can too....
Testgod4lifeThanks for the post bro. I'm coming up on my 1 year chip, and cant be more proud of myself. After 9 years of using opiates of all kinds I caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror doing a line of H. Mixing sports with drugs was hell of a ride, but it takes a stronger person to kick the addiction and make you and your health priority.
Getting loaded, while it was indeed a full time job, was 100 times easier than facing the fears of day to day life clean, humbled, and emotionally fragile....
Congratulations, 1 year is a super Fkn awesome achievement....
getshitdoneI have opiod addiction which im really trying to overcome. Got addicted to codeine while being treated for sciatica. Im a single parent so i have sole custody of my child which i battled for thru the court system.
I want to ask my GP for help but im afraid incase it gets leaked to social services!
My child isnt neglected ir doesnt go without or anything im fully functional member of society. I just have an addiction i cant kick! Ive tried tapering but i always relapse or ind an excuse to. Can the GP notify social services. If i ask for help?
Addiction is progressive and know matter how much with think we are productive member of society. We are not. Finding means and ways of getting more takes away from are loved ones. Yesterday i wanted to use so fckn bad. I went to a meeting instead. I am facing all kinds of stuff i can lose but the disease of addiction does not care. You cant do this alone so get help while you can. I hate yo see you lose everything.
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I'm sorry I'm just seeing this after 2 days! Here's you a little motivation incase you missed it
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/off-topic/there-is-hope
Listen my friend, get help & don't waste anymore time. Your child deserves it!! They don't punish you for seeking help by stripping your children away, it's when you don't seek help & they find out you're an addict. The longer you wait the greater the chance of screwing up is. I had this same talk to a close friend mine who had a 3 yr old daughter. The mom died from an OD. He kept making excuses & minimizing his addiction until one day he started shooting instead of snorting & justified it by saying his dope would last longer &'save money. He got on a binge & him & sister broke into some houses one night for drug money. She didn't wake up the next morning due to OD & he was arrested & sentenced to 30 years. Don't put it off & do whatever you have to due to get clean. There's a lot of cases just like yours where addiction started from an injury. The shame isn't in the fight that you became addicted, the shame is when you don't seek the help needed to kick it!!
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Iop day 1. 3hrs a day 3 days a week. What ever it takes.
whatever it takes my friend. I sit here today just a few more decisions away from 9 years clean, and its hard for me to remember the last time I thought about using, fleeting thoughts sure but I mean actually thought I want to get loaded. Maybe its been 5 years, maybe 7 years, I dont know but its been a long time. I cant tell you WHAT did it for me, but I can tell you I remember going to meetings 12-15 times a week and having something to talk about in just about every meeting pertaining to the disease and how it played on my mind and when it was talking to me. I do feel that lots of H&I helped me, but regardless there was no recipe other than do everything until I felt like I understood the disease. Fast forward to now and I hardly ever think to myself oh theres that disease, it does come around but for the most part its gone, retreated to the back of my mind waiting for something in my life to happen the takes me away from my strong mindset. A mindset I have diligently filled with other people, places and things. A mind set I have struggled to change the way I think, treat people, talk, walk, act, and yes think, as crazy as that sounds. Im not saying I have the power to change WHAT im thinking but rather the things I think about, and that has changed WHAT I think. My brother I have seen your struggles here, I feel your pain, I now have empathy for you and what you have to deal with in this journey. And with every fiber in my heart I wish I could lend you my mind for a few hours so you can see this quiet, peaceful, loving space, financially stable, with little to no concern or stress on all the intricate things that used to eat me alive. Just a few hours and I know you would say THAT is what I want, THAT is what I WILL GET, and I promise you you would not stop till you found this place. But I cant, I can only try my best to empower you to make this journey on your own, through your own trials and tribulations, and hope that you make it here.
Keep fighting the good fight!....
Wow, very well said. You can't learn that in books. That is the sage advice of someone who has a personal and intimate understanding and found the strength to survive. Wisdom.
Not only that, but no looking back and no crutches which is a sign of a true transformative experiance. Great respect, my hat is off to you.
I know that is right. I read this yesterday and sent him a pm to tell him how moving a post this is.
Well said my friend!!
Wheres the recovery at?
We here brother. Hope you're sticking around for the long haul.
I've been clean about 6 years now. The recovery road was the hardest thing I have ever accomplished, but one of the most rewarding!! I volunteer my time now to help others & I'm looking for a new building to be able to house folks that are trying to get clean. Addiction is no respecter of persons & the majority of families have been effected by it one way or another. I was both an alcoholic & drug addict. One led to another till there wasn't a drug I wouldn't do. Addiction is selfish. My wife & and sons finally helped me realize what I was missing & gave me strength to take the step. I'm a preacher now & I work with & counsel many that never planned on being an addict & all the trouble that accompanies it. I'm always here if anyone needs someone to talk to!!
Wow. Thats awesome. Thanks for the hope.
As long as there's breathe, there's hope brother! I've been very transparent with my children about my background in hopes of opening their eyes to the fact of the fun isn't worth the pain. Another lesson I reiterate to them over & over, a man is not measured by how many times he falls, but rather how many times he gets back up!!
100 days just released from jail
Glad to see you out Brother!!
Hey whats up brother. Dont know ya but glad to meet ya. Congrats on being released and 100 days. Keep it up!
Thanks bud
Damn bro. Take it easy and stay clean brother.
Made a meeting last night. It was a struggle today but I'm in the gym and will hit a meeting tonight.
Has any one else been on suboxone post drug addiction?
It's good short term, but it is also addictive...
Methadone and sub. Saved me as well
It helped save my life
Helped save my life too
Got me a 5 month chip last Saturday, and I've been sitting on my gear for over a month getting my diet in check. Talk about testing the will power!! Staying off stuff that affects the head is for life, but hopefully I can tune in my diet, gain about 4-6 natural pounds and be good to go by September 22. Side note, my 35th bday is next week, and God willing, it will be my first sober bday in 21 years!
Keep it up! The best is yet to come
Wsup dude
CONGRATS!!!
5 month chip! MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT!!!
Ace VenturaThat's very cool. Congratulations