Fall/Winter EBC Bulker 2013/14
BOOM ITS BULK TIME!!!! Here we go Boyz & Gurlz, its finally time to get big again! No more booty shorts and half shirts walking through the mall for Ed with 6 inch spikes thank God!
Its Ed day instead of groundhog day. Once he packs away all tapioca puddin and hail damage hanging out of his shorts and slidez on his leggings and flannel duck dynasty shirt we know we can BEGIN THE BIG EATS! Goofy phuker and his aimless walk around the food court blowing a duckcall with a mouth and pocket full of cordog 7's finest with mustard all through his beard and intertwining nose hair! Makes me wanna thrkw up in my pants just thinking about it!
OK we've put it off long enough, the idea is bulk folks. That does not mean pork up so you appear to be wearing cammo at walmart blending in with the fattest laziest country on earth. It means big lifts, big kitchen but might wanna leave the twinkiez for the people parking in wheelchair spotz driving electric carts who have actually eaten their way to a handicap sticker and type 2 diabetes!
So for me i roll dirty in the first half of one of these often then clean and big to finish but clean and big the whole ride is not a bad thought either. By dirty i mean i have been known to eat a tub of ckttahe cheese over a day with my big eats and yes maybe even an ocassional pizza with all meat topping convincing myself "its carbs and protein right?" Lmao....well honestly the big clean route is the way to go even if you end up with a few cheat meals in the first half of the rjde.
I might say look back through our success storiez in the bulk comps and maybe get with some of those people and take some advice. I can think of one right off. Our own Shrapnel put a hardcore beatdown on the competition and if I remember right pulled on over 40 lbs and it was a nice 40 too! I still remember all the tears and crying by the competition and theif coaches. It wasba sad day for sportsmanship! Lmao
Alright lets do the dayum thang. Keep in mind...neither myself or Carlos want to yield 1000 pm's wifh your cry storiez about your baby momma or you're in the middle of a herpes breakout and scabbed up blah blah blah! If you can't follow the rules and meet the deadlines then you can't play!
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No pic doctoring , air brushing , altering of any sort and if caught you will be disqualfied and BANNED!!!
Again, a 7th pic with USA today and some body present will be required for opening and closing pics.Remember, full body (head to toe) present in pose shots, all of them.Make sure the lighting and background are the same for the opening pics and the closing pics and have the same pose for opening and closing as well.....again, all 6 required core pics.
**OK so we know.....a lot of questions around bulking and what is it. No, it is not just who hainsd the most. If you gain 20 lbs and there is nice recomp and the weight is distributed equally showing nice proportion etc, you will beat the guy who gained 50 lbs ,no quality, no proportion etc. QUALITY IS KING! Getting fat is not bulking its porking, this is not a porker. **
Follow the compettion rules, give me 6 poses with one extra pic containing the USA Today (6 pics total).
Give me a brief yet precise description of your cycle and goal and then BOOM, GET TO WORK!!!
Opening pics deadline will be November 15th at 11.59 pm CST.
Closing pics must be identical to opening and deadline is 11.59 pm January 31st 2014 CST
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Lol yeah that shit was good I've had a pretty decent diet no sweets until that fucking rum cake.
I just had a couple Chocolate and Peanut Butter Chimis! Yum!
Oh, almost forgot the chocolate dipping sauce! LOL ;-P
That was justified it had peanut butter in it lol
The chicken burrito was all chicken like a lb, great Taco too.
Lol hell yeah !
hunteron20sAhh shit I had pecan pie apple pie I have been shopping like a animal .I look at the cals if there to low I dont buy it lol.
Lmao yeah that works!
hunteron20sDude I even got baby food lol very small good carbs and 10 protein lol .I get so full so this is so small see how it taste lol
Damn that's a great idea maybe some of that taste good but some I understand why my Lil girl didn't like it.
hunteron20sWell I got like sweet potato so I can chug that eat chicken then other stuff to get good cals and carbs up
Yeah I am going to skip that shooo.
hunteron20sGet organic though
Game Time!
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phil113kgGood to hear that.
Hey this gave me an idea. Somewhere down the road we will need a EBC with only sources and their sponsored participate. Permit the sources to stick it out there and really show us who has bigger nuts. Sources can choose a ER member, donate what is needed and let their gear speak for themselves. To many times, me included, an EBC contender will use several gear from several sources. This doesn't help pin down what from who works or sucks. If this has been thought about already and expressed then please excuse me for not knowing. But if this ideas sounds good then let's hear it.
Sounds great Phil!
I'm the same, running gear from 4-5 sources because thats what I have. Not every source has a full range of products though.
phil113kgI didn't think about that.
Sorry..
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i ate so much this past weekend. party, thanksgiving, and more! i kept telling myself, i am bulking!
i ate a lot, so much, to much. but do i care? i work hard so i play hard and during these moments with family and friends u just cant recapture them if you lose them!
with that being said, i do need to add a bit of cardio.
ive been getting sore after almost every workout. i dont remember getting sore like this in a while.
Thats cause you were slacking and now your trying harder! I Love the feeling after a great workout, then its just about gone by the time to bring it on again when those parts come up in rotation again.
Except calves, OUCH!
phil113kgSince we are on the topic of training, allow me to ask a question. How many times do you guys hit a body part? Is it once a week, once every four days or what?
Once as a primary group and once as a secondary. What about you?
phil113kgI hit each body part once every ten days. I'm trying to nail down a point here gents that we really need to focus more attention on over compensated recuperation. I can't stress that enough.
Hmmm...I have been run down mainly bc I can't keep my caloric intake up like you addressed above. I don't know if I can cause enough damage in a 3 day a week program like you to promote good growth but I'm going to try adding in an extra rest day or maybe a little light cardio for an appetite boost
phil113kgYou don't think you can cause enough muscle damage in 3 days? Interesting way to put it. Man I wish you can jump into my head and have a look at my archive then I wouldn't have to write so much. Let me blow your mind with this question. How many sets does it take to fully initiate muscle growth?
Maybe it's a mental thing...maybe a little iron addiction. I know muscle growth starts after first set but I don't know...I guess I just can't stay away
phil113kgI normally do just one set. It's the last few reps during this one set that stimulates muscle growth. Any following sets creates a diminishing effect and causes more damage than needed. You don't want to destroy the muscle but stimulate it for growth.
phil, you are absolutely blowing my mind.
phil113kgI have almost 27 years of trial and error of training and man the lessons I've learned. I know how it's like with and without AAS. I use to think that working out frequently and hard was the answer to all my problems but it's not. It only creates new ones. I use to think hitting legs two or three times a week will force the legs to grow but the opposite happened. Take a long hard look in the mirror guys and ask yourself if you know what you are really doing. If you have great genetics and can recuperate as fast as lightening then pay me no mind. But if you are a hard gainer like me then it pays to pay attention.
RustyhookerWealth of knowledge there Phil!
I may not be the smartest guy but I am smart enough to listen to smart guys in their areas so will try your way just a bit modified. What you sound like you may be doing is DC type training? Ive tried this before for 8-12 weeks and it didnt see much from it but I will reduce my workload each week giving myself more recovery time. I will be sure to let everyone know how its going.
AnonBrother I've never seen a pro bodybuilder or any kind of bodybuilder ever recommend doing just one set. Granted you obviously know what you're talking about way more than I do but I have to honest one set per exercise sounds a little bit like mental sabotage:)
Sorta like Arnold did to Lou and Dave back in Pumping Iron. Watch half the competitors will drop their routines to one set per exercise and think they'll end up looking like you:D
it is kind of similar to how dorian trains
AnonI've seen his YouTube stuff and he was doing more than one set bro. The 3day split I've seen plenty of and at times have done it myself. I'm not disagreeing with what he's saying but the one set per body part is totally alien to me. I could see where a person who is completely developed and has already achieved peak development could get away with a max weight super high intensity set but I don't see how anyone looking like an amateur would benefit from one set max weight.
Just giving my humble opinion and not trying to say what's right or wrong or anything for that matter.
not saying i would do it, but he did a few warm up sets then 1 or 2 heavy sets per exercise not just 1 set per body part. im more of a volume and intense blood flow type of guy, but hey, to each your own. everybody responds differently.
AnonAbsolutely brother I agree 100%. Can't argue results.
Ace VenturaFuck that shit! Besides, when I see someone say 'one set', I hear 'one working set', which is preceded by a bunch of warm up sets, basically the same shit I do. I don't wanna put words in Phil's mouth, but that's how I take it. To each his own.
AnonYa I can't argue Phil's methods his body speaks for itself. But nobody in this comp looks like Phil so maybe he's into something here:)
phil113kgYou don't have to look like me to make positive gains. This preprograming will aid anyone one at any level.
phil113kgYes in a sense. For me chest goes like this; decline with three warm up sets reps not counted but kept to a minimum just to get muscles warmed up and stretched. 135-225-275- then I go right into my working set of 405 until positive failure then strip it down to 315 and finish off the set. Keep in mind that I don't want to do every working set to this type of failure. It's like knowing how much money you have in the bank and you want to spend it wisely. You wont throw all your cash on one thing and have nothing left for anything else. So not every working set is to absolute failure. My next chest exercise is incline press on the smith machine. No warm up due to being already hot. I jump right into my working set of 315 and will work till positive failure and leave it like that. But my point is after warming up with one exercise is enough for me and every other exercise is just the "one" working set.
AnonThis definitely makes sense. The way I read your earlier post was u do one single set(working set or not) the way you describe it here makes perfect sense to me now. I've found that blending drop sets with some volume programs really adds cleaner mass for me. You see I'm never going to be a bodybuilder in a competitive sense. I've done the classic bulking intensity programs like the 5x5 matrix and some west side barbell training for strength with a bulking diet and compounds. All I ever got out of it was a lot of mass with little actual striation development. Just a wet mess in a xxl shirt. Then I'd go into a higher volume program like FST7 or lots pyramid drop sets with a cleaner diet with little to no red meat just chicken and fish to clean up the garbage from my bulker. A lot of effort for a guy not ever going to be competitive IMO. I've come to the realization for me and my non competitive bodybuilding goals I'm better suited to stick to a more balanced combination of volume and intensity with a clean diet. I stay leaner and don't seem to have as much ups n downs.
Again I have to say though just at first glance of the "one set" post I figured there was more to it than what I read and I'm glad to see you sharing the wealth of knowledge you've worked your ass off to have. But you do have carte blanche to fuck with everyone's heads if you want to:) spice this comp up a bit brother!!
phil113kgThanks Carlos for thinking this through. Yes I realize that most of us will never step on stage which is a shame cause I see plenty of potential. But the bottom line of trying to create a well rounded muscular body is to pay close attention to your body and follow some simple rules.
Here's a little tid bit for you and anyone reading. Like I stated earlier I will for example hit chest once every ten days and today was chest day. But you know what? The previous session which a hell of a session left my chest still not fully recuperated. I felt it during my bench presses. So did I go to far during my last training session? Maybe. Cause I paid for it during this session by having to lightening the load. Shit happens. But with all my eating and strict attention to full recuperation I still was short of a dollar.
No bro, I leave the head games in the gym. Guys don't get it when I walk inn and walk out 45 minutes later while they are still on their second exercise.
AnonThat's awesome!!!
I know his one set is a drop set runnin the whole DB rack
AnonLol I figured it was something along those lines.
phil113kgAh you're catching on. Doing drops sets is another way of maximizing one set to failure. Trying doing two that way and you will not be able to muster enough strength to complete it with the same intensity. Besides that doing the second will cause you to over do it and will result in a severe overtraining. It will take your body over a week to FULLY OVER COMPENSATE for the next torture session. Basically your body's natural reaction is to heal and over heal to prepare itself if it ever had to do it again.
phil113kgWhat you see is what they want you to see. The only time they really buckle down is before a show and even then they are careful to what they do. Not all but some. That's why some will come in full and shredded and some will look as if they didn't prepare at all. The ones we see on youtube and such have contracts with big supplement companies and well they have to to put on a show. I don't want to venture off into the rabbit hole.
So no Carlos, my purpose for sharing my views on training is to help others achieve their goals quicker without wasting precious time and effort.
Phil honestly most of us are 1/4 of your size if that, so if your talking I'm listening(no homo). I train as follows.....
Monday Chest, back and shoulders. 2-3 sets each.
Tues- bi's, Tri's and legs.........
Wed- Off
Thurs- Same as Mon
Friday- Same as Tues
Sat, sun- Either off because of work, or lacking body parts I.e. traps, calves, legs and upper chest.
I find it hard to believe that you only train so less frequently and with less sets. Are you sure your not trying to sabotage us in this ebc? Haha jk. All jokes aside spit knowledge, I'm all ears bro.
phil113kgThanks for dropping inn this conversation. But before I speak on your issue first let me say that I just woke up and read all the comments posted since going to bed. Some were down right funny comparing me to Arnold in his mind fuck games to comments that seem skeptical of how I train.
Now to you; here is a very common method of over training. On your mondays and thurs you hit smaller ancillary muscles along with the majors. So I translate your program as arms trained directly and indirectly four times a week. These smaller muscles get too much attention and will lack in progress. This will be your weakest link cause try doing chest press without the aid of triceps. So if maximum strength is one of you goals to pack on size then bang your program works against you. You will only be as strong as your weakest link. The biceps and triceps will not recuperate fast enough to handle the demanding work load which in turns causes everything else to fall behind. You get my point. You need to strategize your program to focus on bringing everything up at the same time while allowing time for everything to fully recuperate.
AnonThats exactly what I saw too. What's your thoughts on splits of one muscle group a session.