+ 5 Karma is meaningless? U sure?
I have a question. Well a couple questions. First,.. Is anyone confused on what is considered karma whoring?
Give me a list of things you would consider pimping yourself out for points? Let's clear the air.
I already know how much karma means to some of you. And how proud you are of the tag next to your pic. But I'll be honest. About 80% of you who sky rocketed up to advanced or higher in a year or less , you didn't get those points from being an AAS guru and helping everyone in the forum. I can count maybe 10 people in the last 12 months who really dedicate their time to help with cycles and other questions. Other than them, it's almost ALL from posting pics one after another after another like we don't see the patterns. Some even send Mass PM's telling ppl to check out their pics without actually saying "hey give me some karma".
I'm making it clear here and now! I'm going to start digging through ppls karma closely to look for patterns. I hope you don't have a little clique of friends who circle jerk each other's karma because It might just disappear from your page. If you think you might fall under the spotlight and want to come clean, I might let you go with a warning and a doc. Karma may not be important in reality but wait, you sure about that? Because I know of sources who send shit loads of gear to high ranking members in promos thanking them for their service to the site. So there is a lot of free gear at stake which makes it very important to a lot of ppl.
If I find anything suspect and it reveals anything obviously underhanded, unless you came clean , you won't be shown any mercy.
I see a lot of ideas for changing the system. Some are actually really good. Don't not so much.
1). Stop giving karma for gear pics.
Here's the problem with that. You do remember buying that bottle of test e in the gym and dying to get online to check the images on google to see if they match? I do. Or the sust amps. We all had Karachi at some point. Your boy says "yo those are bootleg homie" and you don't wana believe it and again can't wait to get home to check the google images for a match. Those images are coming from the top AAS sites on the planet. Well who is number 1? We are! So those images are your gear pics. It's an important part of the site. But I don't think you guys should be bumping karma for a pic of a bottle of test prop. If there's an impressive stash or big order , letting us know you got it.
2). Put a cap on karma in pics!
Not bad. I can see that. 5 point max with all the upvotes you can handle. Works for me.***
This one is classic,...
3). Have a book and bail system implemented for karma whores
If you get caught in a circle jerk or whoring for pics you get a temp ban (booked) and you can return after x amount of days with a warning and a points dock depending on the level of the offense. Do it again and you get booked with a temp ban but this time no ROR. You gotta pay bail to get back on. $25 fee to the eroids fund. Help pay for the server or any other expenses the boss has. Get 3 months probation (no karma awarded during probation). Do it a third time you're permabanned unless you pay $100 bail and get 3-6 months probation (no karma awarded during probation) with a reset of your score upon your return.
Now I'll admit this is kinda ghetto. But it's actually not a bad idea
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So I'm posting this at the request of a fellow member who could not post it themselves due to some different reasons I dont even understand lol. So just just wanna make that clear, these are not my thoughts, just helping out a fellow eroider who sent me a message asking to post this for them.
"The problem with the karma system is not the people who post pictures. Posting all the time is stupid, but it gives you no karma. The problem with the system is the people giving the karma. People need to think before they click, is this picture appropriate, helpful, a good representation of eroids? Most likely the answer is no, then do not up vote that picture. Make a comment, "nice pic bro" or whatever but do not give people karma just for the hell of it. Limiting the amount of points per picture is not a good idea. I have seen people get 30+ hits but it's normally because of amazing progress or fast results. I have also seen incredibly out of shape people get tons of karma, and this blows my mind. If a person posts a shot and they look like they have never touched a weight, why are you giving them karma?
IMHO Gear pics should not be availble for karma. Post the pic sure, but only because you need to show what you got. Too many people post the same vials in different poses over and over and over that's ridiculous."
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StevebDude, did you send him cash too?
Cheap MotelsI do not have cash. I dont have a job. I dont even have credit.
Benny BlancoI don't believe him
Cheap MotelsSeriously can we free that ACE guy and how much will it cost? I would also like to see the top 10 most hated and their bail. How much would it cost to get FINA out?
Benny BlancoFina used to pay with BJ's from what I hear. I know I used to exchange gear for dome with him in PM. So you're asking how many BJ's Finafan would have to give to be unbanned?
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hey I saw some newb needs help in the cycles section
Benny BlancoCan you do a wink with that face?
Yes, yes i can. My face is collapsed on the left side from an accident so thats my normal smile,,...problem?
Benny BlancoOf course not, sir. I was just curious.
Cheap MotelsYou got me confused with i mean you have him confused with someone else.
Benny BlancoNo, I'm positive it was him. He said, "hey, my old name was www.37, may I please give you BJ's for gear?". I still have the PM's
Cheap MotelsHe must have been ahcked
Benny BlancoLmao
Those are two completely different members
StevebNo
Yes. Monster couldn't spell worth shit. He also would extort sources. And when discovered would immediately start slinging shit. Mainly at fast and the mods. He actually might love nitti with how much monster focused on starting shit with him
Ace was a normal member. Nice guy. Will help anyone. Unfortunately too sarcastic for his own good lol
Cheap MotelsHe doesnt even lift. Nice guy really? You know he sells Mary Kay?
StevebNah
Benny BlancoI'll throw in $20. Another $5 if I can go down on him.
I like number 3 bro a lot of thought went into that shit lol
StevebI have posted a shit ton of pics but I don't ask people to look at them in PM. I have lost more karma in the last few months than I have gained.
Yeah and every pic you post is of a big order and frankly gear porn. That doesn't make you right or wrong. Just keeps you off the radar. You don't post a pic every other day or even multiple x's a week right? You aren't bumping your boys and expecting they return the favor.
bigKountryWell here I am,I am coming clean about posting pics and sending pm's sometimes to individuals,I had no bad intentions,and it will not be happening again,if I post pics it will be of blood work,or before and after pics of some of the cycles that I have run,if I have offended anybody by doing this ,I do apologize and it will not be happening again,all post from now on will be for the benefit to the community and hopefully will be able to help someone,had no bad intentions through out this process but have learned a lot I consider it a privilege to be apart of this and will not do anything to jeopardize that,once again I do apologize for any offense that had been takin.
Thanks bigK. Nobody else? Ohh there are more of you out here. Do I really have to dig? I will.
I responded to bigK and sent him a link to my first user pic but only to him first time I've done that and I wont do it again. Sorry
Thanks for manning up and owning it. It shows character.
Cheap MotelsAs a guy that that lived in the cycle section to get my karma I think you are the man for apologizing.
Ecclesiastes 1:2 - Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. (KJV)
Cheap MotelsMaybe get a small group of people to sit and throw ideas in a private thread until a idea is born.
Benny BlancoThis is pretty private. I say for gear pics, give an auto one or two points, no up-votes, but members will still have some incentive to post them. One or two points don't add up very fast
Cheap MotelsNo karma for reviews. If someone leaves bad review they can be down voted but no karma loss
RustyhookerBody pix....thats why we're here. To grow and show off.
Gear pix...prove packs land. Especially when paks are getting late or about to turn scammer.
I really feel like there is two Eroids: 1) The forum Eroids, and 2) The SI, picture Eroids. I spend very little time in the SI pages, but I always feel like I'm in an alternate universe when I'm there. I run into a bunch of Level 3, ADV and EXP tags of guys who I've never heard of or seen in the forums. Who are these people and where did they come from?
I guess my point is that 95% of the offenders of karma whoring never set foot in the forums and will never see this post.
I think that most of the regular contributors in the forums are a solid and diverse group and deserve their karma/rank, due to their contributions.
As for the SI/Pic guys, that's a tough one to find a solution. Pic of your self and your gear can be helpful and should be part of this site, but there will always be guys who abuse the privileged. I like the idea of not getting an automatic point and maybe a cap should be put on gear pics (5 or 10). Maybe a cap on self pics as well (10-20). Just a thought.
I think the worst part is there is a few on here not many but they have high karma and the throw out dangerous advice sometimes, if the wrong person takes that bad advice it could be dangerous
Oh nitti its like that you gonna just put aware business out there like that lol jkn. On serious note I have received karma from pics and not really made any forums yet but I've learned a lot from very good people on eroids people who care and want to see you grow buy I have not felt comfortable enough to give out advice on diet even though I knew things b4 eroids still not a expert yet and making good progressiI even spread the new knowledge to my brother and he's getting results not on any AAs though. Sorry to get off topic but I was just venting about it lol
I guess at the end of the day you an only do so much to stop it... its up to each member to hold themselves accountable for there actions. pics are a important part of the site as well the the advice section. one warning to the offender second time they go to zero.. third time they get the troll tag ? just a thought public humility is better sometimes than just an out right banning.
This is a mistake we made in the past, not setting clear punishment. We banned the karma whores and put them on public display as an example. It worked for a couple weeks. Now we need to try a new concrete solution.
that was before my time then..
KARMA is hunted fiercely by the younger crowd..... i talk to source owners on a daily basis and they tell me "who is getting what! and the values of these freebies"...... some of our NEW Advanced members have NEVER even clapped eyes on this amount of gear EVER in their short lives!.... but now they have ADV tags they have stashes worth thousands!!.. but strangely most of them cannot even master a basic test cycle and produce results worthy of carrying an ADV tag.
KARMA is and always will be THE most valuable asset to any member on eroids when hunting for FREE gear............. NOBODY will ever sway my thoughts on this matter.
yeah the number of new adv members that know absolutely nothing besides some shit they read online is really making a joke of the entire system.
Id say the system is far from being a "joke". Yes karma can be decieving but you need to do your own due dilligence. A perfect system does not exist.... for anything.
exp and adv tags obviously mean nothing when you have a shitload of guys that know nothing about working out or gear with those tags. they're all over the place these days lol. expert at uploading pictures that shit is pretty funny. lvl123 is fine but exp and adv tags should have something to back them up like the pro tags do. just my opinion obviously and i know that doesn't count for shit but when i see advanced or expert on a steroid site i would like to think these people have some idea of what they're talking about.
Exp and adv tags arent meaningless ..... if you open your eyes and dig a little.
Welcome to ADV, bro. Now YOU can deal with it also. No, it's not meaningless, lot of stinking typing if you ask me.
getting to 900 points by uploading a bunch of pics isn't meaningless? buying gear and posting selfies makes someone an expert on roids? i guess we will have to agree to disagree lol.
Calm down brother. You're missing what Im saying. I agree, yes that example you made is meaningless, fully agree. My point was you need to dig a little to determine which adv, exp... tags are with merit... yadig?
just kidding bro
just a miscommunication, seems like we were in agreement the entire time after all lol.
hahahaha well done.
RustyhookerThat's the idea on this forum. The newbs see exp/adv and want real help. Some guys "bought" their tags. Others worked hard.
How to modify or make the site still awesome with tags that match?
exactly, there are plenty of guys that with those tags that know what they're talking about but there seem to be an equal amount that are completely clueless.
i would say adv or especially exp tags should get mod approval and not just come automatically with a certain number of points.