+ 5 Karma is meaningless? U sure?
I have a question. Well a couple questions. First,.. Is anyone confused on what is considered karma whoring?
Give me a list of things you would consider pimping yourself out for points? Let's clear the air.
I already know how much karma means to some of you. And how proud you are of the tag next to your pic. But I'll be honest. About 80% of you who sky rocketed up to advanced or higher in a year or less , you didn't get those points from being an AAS guru and helping everyone in the forum. I can count maybe 10 people in the last 12 months who really dedicate their time to help with cycles and other questions. Other than them, it's almost ALL from posting pics one after another after another like we don't see the patterns. Some even send Mass PM's telling ppl to check out their pics without actually saying "hey give me some karma".
I'm making it clear here and now! I'm going to start digging through ppls karma closely to look for patterns. I hope you don't have a little clique of friends who circle jerk each other's karma because It might just disappear from your page. If you think you might fall under the spotlight and want to come clean, I might let you go with a warning and a doc. Karma may not be important in reality but wait, you sure about that? Because I know of sources who send shit loads of gear to high ranking members in promos thanking them for their service to the site. So there is a lot of free gear at stake which makes it very important to a lot of ppl.
If I find anything suspect and it reveals anything obviously underhanded, unless you came clean , you won't be shown any mercy.
I see a lot of ideas for changing the system. Some are actually really good. Don't not so much.
1). Stop giving karma for gear pics.
Here's the problem with that. You do remember buying that bottle of test e in the gym and dying to get online to check the images on google to see if they match? I do. Or the sust amps. We all had Karachi at some point. Your boy says "yo those are bootleg homie" and you don't wana believe it and again can't wait to get home to check the google images for a match. Those images are coming from the top AAS sites on the planet. Well who is number 1? We are! So those images are your gear pics. It's an important part of the site. But I don't think you guys should be bumping karma for a pic of a bottle of test prop. If there's an impressive stash or big order , letting us know you got it.
2). Put a cap on karma in pics!
Not bad. I can see that. 5 point max with all the upvotes you can handle. Works for me.***
This one is classic,...
3). Have a book and bail system implemented for karma whores
If you get caught in a circle jerk or whoring for pics you get a temp ban (booked) and you can return after x amount of days with a warning and a points dock depending on the level of the offense. Do it again and you get booked with a temp ban but this time no ROR. You gotta pay bail to get back on. $25 fee to the eroids fund. Help pay for the server or any other expenses the boss has. Get 3 months probation (no karma awarded during probation). Do it a third time you're permabanned unless you pay $100 bail and get 3-6 months probation (no karma awarded during probation) with a reset of your score upon your return.
Now I'll admit this is kinda ghetto. But it's actually not a bad idea
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So I'm posting this at the request of a fellow member who could not post it themselves due to some different reasons I dont even understand lol. So just just wanna make that clear, these are not my thoughts, just helping out a fellow eroider who sent me a message asking to post this for them.
"The problem with the karma system is not the people who post pictures. Posting all the time is stupid, but it gives you no karma. The problem with the system is the people giving the karma. People need to think before they click, is this picture appropriate, helpful, a good representation of eroids? Most likely the answer is no, then do not up vote that picture. Make a comment, "nice pic bro" or whatever but do not give people karma just for the hell of it. Limiting the amount of points per picture is not a good idea. I have seen people get 30+ hits but it's normally because of amazing progress or fast results. I have also seen incredibly out of shape people get tons of karma, and this blows my mind. If a person posts a shot and they look like they have never touched a weight, why are you giving them karma?
IMHO Gear pics should not be availble for karma. Post the pic sure, but only because you need to show what you got. Too many people post the same vials in different poses over and over and over that's ridiculous."
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I must not be that cool either. Nobody has dumped gear on me. I have received an extra bottle or something like that but the only other gear I got free would be on promo's that everybody else had access to as well. And truth is I don't mind paying for a good service so it's all good.
I've only ever received a bottle of test e and p to try from a source once. In over 3 years!!! Maybe this isn't the problem we make out?
Cheap MotelsI could name couple sources that would load you both up.
I have enough gear. Really I do. But thanks.
Cheap MotelsI was doing blood tests to test the gear I got so I had to leave a honest review. Finally said it was not worth it and stopped accepting free gear or trying to get in on promos.
That is okay bro. I have more than I need as is.
Cheap MotelsStatement not a offer
Cheap MotelsI was getting free gear at around 50 or 60 points.
So my source is simply a scrooge? All I can do for the guy is write nice reviews which I would do anyways because he deserves it. So, I must be missing out on some technique here that's escaping me.
I'm on the outside as well. I've never gotten any free gear, except for a promo that everyone who purchased from this source was able to participate in. Never anything for karma. What are we missing here. My guess is that higher karma folks may be asking for it in some cases. Maybe sources are coming to them, but they've skipped you and I (as I wipe a tear from my cheek). ;-)
monster's incKarma = currency
RustyhookerThenwhats your answer?
monster's incMy opinion on the matter ?
You can only earn karma in the cycles and pct section .
No karma for posting pictures,labs,self shots and all that other bullshit . It's a steroid review site, no shit theres going to be pictures for it . that's where that stuff goes. No need to 1 up me for it ..Ok great you received your gear. It was wonderful . So leave a review . Because the smart guys/gals will focus on the review history . To establish patterns and trends . Not threw a picture of your test prop.
Only people that should earn karma threw pictures are EBC contestants only . That's it
Shit , while we're at it . Drop the karma buttons in the review section . I mean , you ordered , you got your shit. YOU should be rewarded because you received sonething YOU paid for? Doesn't seem right .
Plus , these slick fucks get their buddies to click the thumbs up tab for a semi decent review .
I see more down votes then I see up votes (for good reviews that is ) so get rid of it .
Make it so the newb has to earn it .
Not threw fucking pictures or reviews . Or a cycle proposal But by helping another member. Taking time out of their day to educate a fellow member .
You limit the area you can receive karma , you'll make it harder for them to take advantage of it.
Then again it's human nature , where there's a will there's a way.
Cheap Motelsnot surprised but me and you have the same opinion on this. Specially the karma from reviews
Cheap MotelsNitti said that karma for gear pics was good because you can see what they hell it is you have if you forget. That is a legitimate argument but what if Sources could post pics? I bet they would not miss a product pic.
RustyhookerGear pix prove packs land when a source is becoming selective or scamming. Many late packs and mods shut em off til caught up.
monster's incTrue but that has nothing to do with karma . I'm not saying get rid of gear picks. You're right . Proves validity in someone's claim . Rewarding them for such claim ? I don't see the reasoning behind it . Plus , you get the guys ordering pack after pack. We all know what he's doing behind the scenes . No need for karma . That's your duty as a member on a "review site "
Karma in my eyes is a reward for doing something out of the "norm"
(Not posting pics of your wife's ass or some silly shit)
Like giving solid , sound advice to someone trying to run a particular hormone . Not joey the street hustler posting 6 packs a week.
RustyhookerTrue. The mega pix got us here in first place
monster's incDing ding ; )
Cheap MotelsWe should do that anyway though. Without karma. Maybe 1 weekly point only.
RustyhookerYes. It's fun to show what you bought, get feedback and proof. Good for all. 1k limit sure.
monster's incI'm sure you guys (and gals ) will come up with something .
Play nice
I'm out =)
monster's incI don't see it like that . Karma for what . My bottle of Billy bobs tren or uncle buck wheats test e .
So you get one point for posting and that's it . Limited to once a week . I mean come on, how much gear do you really need to post .
That's all review/src related .
See, another thing that's scary is a lot newbs base their decisions on how high someone's karma is . That's dangerous . We don't know if that's a srcs bitch or rep. I don't think there will be any argument if a newb is contributing to this site .
@ rusty
This is towards your remark about newbs giving advice in the cycle / AAS section . You're absolutely right . A newb giving advice is very dangerous .
That's were guys like yourself need to help monitor what's going on in there . You have the ability to flag comments . They'll learn. One way or the other
; )
RustyhookerHigh five bro ! That was well worded. +2
StevebWhy couldn't you post this shit first before all of that other BS that makes you look like a troll?
monster's incI was just having a lil fun brother .
StevebYou spelled too many words "good" to be monster666
monster's incMy dog has a higher IQ than monster666
StevebI know who you are do you like potatoes a lot?
monster's incClever fucker aren't you lol
Well, I'll be getting banned soon .
So before I go
My apologies monstar , I was just messing with you . You're a good dude . No harm no foul.
My apologies rusty aka fast , that was me yesterday calling you out . Upset me a little bit that you threw another member under the bus. Especially since... Well you know what I said . Handle yourself accordingly . You know what I mean by that .
As far as my post . You guys want change ? Then things need to change within yourselves first . It's human nature . You give someone an inch , they'll take a foot .
Limit the areas karma can be received . It'll be easier to monitor. Make the members (newbs and vets ) earn it .
Guys like Viking , fast , ww37 earned it in the trenches helping these kids out . ( even roid noid himself )
That's my take on the matter rusty.
Take care brother
~ Irish
AnonYou shit head
I thought u was monster 666 lol
Its all good
RustyhookerI couldn't reply to that because it got zapped. As with anything there's more to that story but you're correct.
Changing formats here will help keep folks rank/level more up to date/correct. Newbs jump in and see the rank looking for advice. Bad advice can cause serious harm of course.
There's been several mod forums lately so life can be adjusted. There's always gonna be those that take advantage. That's just part of anything underground.
monster's incNo , not underground . Human nature . We as humans all do it . Even as children, we tested to see how far we could go ( innocently of course )
As adults we took what we learned as children and applied it to our own self wants and needs .
"You give someone an inch , they'll take a foot "
One way or another we're all guilty of it , some just more malicious then others lol
Cheap MotelsFined a cure not bitch about the problem.
OMG ....steve!!!
StevebHa you know who he is too
Cheap MotelsPretty sure she knows all. I think she has a crystal ball
RustyhookerShe gave me a complimentary reading once. I didn't realize just how correct it was : /
something like that.. ;p
Cheap MotelsHow about a option to block karma from your pic you post? Say I want to post a selfie but I do not want to look like a ace. I click a button and know one can up vote me.
Confused. Look like Ace or look like an ass. Pretty much the same. Jk Ace. But I do think that is a good idea. I see people posting pics and say no karma please just posting this for whatever reason and they still get thumbs up.
Cheap Motelsthat is why I am saying this. If the person posted the pic could turn off the karma then know one could give them karma.
I'm of the opinion that you should get karma for helping others directly in the forums. I don't see why somebody can spend an hour in the cycle forum guiding another person and potentially saving their health and get one thumbs up for a good job. Then another can post a picture of a bottle of test or a picture of their pecks and they get 5-10 thumbs up! It's disproportionate to the individual's efforts and value to our community.
Of coarse you can comment....... well done, haven't you done well etc. Or .......thanks for posting the test picture of that bottle what a valuable member of this community you are but it doesn't deserve all that reward.
I have to be honest, I didn't even really know this was happening until this thread came up and it has annoyed me a little. I have looked at a few of the EXP members and seen that they do post a shit load of pictures. It's a cleaver 'backdoor' way of getting karma in my opinion. I must hope that they didn't ever view it this way.
Moan over, there is a wealth of quality, knowledgable people on here and their karma has been earned the hard way.
If your here purely to ponce karma and score free gear or that's even high up on your list, I don't think you belong here. You don't make the grade.You should be here to learn and help others. Other shit should come as a bonus and should not be expected.
Cheers brothers
AnonWell what about guys who are like me. Flunkie turned Forum warrior turned hustler turned Mod turned fired Mod turned purveyor of AAS dreams turned facilitator turned fuck the drama turned I'm back. What category would I fit in karma wise?
You would be one of my misguided children.. there are few of you running around here ;-)
StevebMom?
lmao... Yes?
StevebWhy can you out bench me?
monster's incNo , but I'm willing to bet she can put you over her knee and spank that silly ass .
StevebOh monster666 if you really wanted to make me laugh you would post those pics where the gyno was a lot worse on one side. Never seen someone have an A and B cup at the same time.