+ 5 Karma is meaningless? U sure?
I have a question. Well a couple questions. First,.. Is anyone confused on what is considered karma whoring?
Give me a list of things you would consider pimping yourself out for points? Let's clear the air.
I already know how much karma means to some of you. And how proud you are of the tag next to your pic. But I'll be honest. About 80% of you who sky rocketed up to advanced or higher in a year or less , you didn't get those points from being an AAS guru and helping everyone in the forum. I can count maybe 10 people in the last 12 months who really dedicate their time to help with cycles and other questions. Other than them, it's almost ALL from posting pics one after another after another like we don't see the patterns. Some even send Mass PM's telling ppl to check out their pics without actually saying "hey give me some karma".
I'm making it clear here and now! I'm going to start digging through ppls karma closely to look for patterns. I hope you don't have a little clique of friends who circle jerk each other's karma because It might just disappear from your page. If you think you might fall under the spotlight and want to come clean, I might let you go with a warning and a doc. Karma may not be important in reality but wait, you sure about that? Because I know of sources who send shit loads of gear to high ranking members in promos thanking them for their service to the site. So there is a lot of free gear at stake which makes it very important to a lot of ppl.
If I find anything suspect and it reveals anything obviously underhanded, unless you came clean , you won't be shown any mercy.
I see a lot of ideas for changing the system. Some are actually really good. Don't not so much.
1). Stop giving karma for gear pics.
Here's the problem with that. You do remember buying that bottle of test e in the gym and dying to get online to check the images on google to see if they match? I do. Or the sust amps. We all had Karachi at some point. Your boy says "yo those are bootleg homie" and you don't wana believe it and again can't wait to get home to check the google images for a match. Those images are coming from the top AAS sites on the planet. Well who is number 1? We are! So those images are your gear pics. It's an important part of the site. But I don't think you guys should be bumping karma for a pic of a bottle of test prop. If there's an impressive stash or big order , letting us know you got it.
2). Put a cap on karma in pics!
Not bad. I can see that. 5 point max with all the upvotes you can handle. Works for me.***
This one is classic,...
3). Have a book and bail system implemented for karma whores
If you get caught in a circle jerk or whoring for pics you get a temp ban (booked) and you can return after x amount of days with a warning and a points dock depending on the level of the offense. Do it again and you get booked with a temp ban but this time no ROR. You gotta pay bail to get back on. $25 fee to the eroids fund. Help pay for the server or any other expenses the boss has. Get 3 months probation (no karma awarded during probation). Do it a third time you're permabanned unless you pay $100 bail and get 3-6 months probation (no karma awarded during probation) with a reset of your score upon your return.
Now I'll admit this is kinda ghetto. But it's actually not a bad idea
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So I'm posting this at the request of a fellow member who could not post it themselves due to some different reasons I dont even understand lol. So just just wanna make that clear, these are not my thoughts, just helping out a fellow eroider who sent me a message asking to post this for them.
"The problem with the karma system is not the people who post pictures. Posting all the time is stupid, but it gives you no karma. The problem with the system is the people giving the karma. People need to think before they click, is this picture appropriate, helpful, a good representation of eroids? Most likely the answer is no, then do not up vote that picture. Make a comment, "nice pic bro" or whatever but do not give people karma just for the hell of it. Limiting the amount of points per picture is not a good idea. I have seen people get 30+ hits but it's normally because of amazing progress or fast results. I have also seen incredibly out of shape people get tons of karma, and this blows my mind. If a person posts a shot and they look like they have never touched a weight, why are you giving them karma?
IMHO Gear pics should not be availble for karma. Post the pic sure, but only because you need to show what you got. Too many people post the same vials in different poses over and over and over that's ridiculous."
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That is exactly what I'd like to see, the tag being in line with AAS knowledge. The two things are separate entities and could do with being treated as such.
It should be base on experience but I can see all hell breaking loose when/if it comes to pass. There are so many degree's of knowledge and then there is knowledge versus real experience. Someone can easily talk the talk, but the ones who walk the walk are the ones that should be rewarded,imo.
pictures or it didn't happen
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Agree. Seems like BFG and the mod team want this to happen to I'm sure they'll work it out. Definite potential for people to throw their toys out of their prams.....(is that another new one for you US guys to learn?)
Absolutely. Now I need to find the definition of Pram!
Pushchair / stroller / buggy.
RustyhookerSo how to implement those ideals into working reality? Excellent idea, but can every members tag be updated?
Absolutely - seems difficult in terms of work required to implement.
RustyhookerIf the pictures karma was stripped off it would come down to forums and posts karma as the base. But with thousands of members, it May be a chore. Would get things so that members see tag of experience vs just a number.
Bumping this! Amazing ideology. Sounds good in theory, now let's put it to practice.
CarlosDanger 3 days ago
Let's reset this motherfucker!!! Hit the little red button nuke this shit only the strong survive. I'll feed myself on the flesh of the weak and timid. You wanna see Alpha style then drop everyone to zero. You'll find your glory hole suck off boys in a matter of hours. You'll find your true assets and the rest can live by sucking off the collective knowledge tit like the lil puppies they really are.
Quit being nice about karma already. Too much talking about this and that. Nuke it all
lol someone negged you.
I can see your point, but I think this isn't for me to spend my time on! Kharma, whoreing etc. LOL
well maybe some whoring lol
Yeah they're about to get smacked back to reality In a min
I accidently negd something. Not sure what or when. Dear God I hope it wasn't this.
AnonHahaha ur fucked:)
Honestly, you have been a mod for a while here. It's been really quiet since GG lor around there. You guys must be doing somthing right.
I dont know how you have the patience, especially as a fighter.
ray3801This is another form of my previous idea.....how about a pie chart added to our profiles showing where all our karma came from. Could have sections for gear pics, self shots, forum posts, lab tests, etc....would give a clear picture of who youre talking to.
I like that idea, but rusty does have a point. It took me a long time to figure out how to navigate the site.
RustyhookerAs it is newbs don't click onto members pages or they'd see number of forums, comments, etc. How many pictures. We've got exp tags out there with nothing but pictures.
Good idea....but noone looks as it is
There is so much to learn all over the place here. i just recently started reading thru cycle logs and its just another amazing place with an incredible wealth of knowledge.
RustyhookerCycle logs can be awesome for folks really reading to research. Many times the corrections get posted below in comments and reasons why. For folks enjoying future planning, there's about any cycle you can imagine on site. Buy ahead and planning early is a winner.
Fixed the fat thumb up there.
My first pussy neg, awesome
Sometimes it's from guys like me that use an iPad and accidentally hit it. Just saying I don't even see where u were negged
I hope so, id hate to think i offended someeone and don't know why. it probably was an accident but i went from 147 to 144 back up to 146 lol. its not the karma, i got just the right amount to reflect how long i been heree and how much I'm around, its not knowing why sometimes.
Dude welcome to eriods lol. Ur not official part of the club till u get pussy negged. There for a while I was getting three a week
Benny BlancoLol I'm sure it's just a fat thumb
ray3801Yeah I guess I forget to take into account how lazy people are in this day and age. Haha
RustyhookerThe learners here are all over the place digging. The spoonfed crowd....thats a different story. Lol
ray3801Boy when I found this site I was like a F'n proctologist! I left no stone unturned....and im still finding things.
RustyhookerIve learned so many new ideas just helping in forums. Changed pin sizes was one of the best.
After reading this entire forum and all the ideas my head kinda hurts. Lol... Here is my solution:
Thumbs up from forums, cycle logs, and lab tests need to be weighted at twice as much karma as gear pics, self shots, and reviews. I also like Ed's idea that tags (adv, exp, pro) should be awarded at a mod's discretion, not a set karma number.
There is no system of rewards that can't be exploited. But this will show who is doing the real work over time. It gives more incentive to help others in the forums. And it isn't so complicated that new members will struggle even more understanding the system.
That is very sensible, scales would balance over the long stretch.
I see lots of good ideas in here.
This has nothing to do with karma but how about a basic quiz on the rules before a new member can post? may help to get rid of spammers as well.
How about this...
The mods put out a questionnaire of sorts.
Age, number of cycles, type of cycles ran, experience, area of expertise (bodybuilding, fighting, Olympic chess, etc.). And the tag that they believe they deserve along with an explanation.
Each person fills out the application and submits pics, certified by a dated newspaper and the person's Eroid name written in ink on their pectoral. The pics have to be specific poses designated by the mods and to date.
The mods then award pro tags, exp tags, adv tags etc.
The pics have to be kept in confidence just between the mods, but the resume/application has to be posted on the members into page.
What this does is separates the wheat from the tAres with no question. Is a person is lying about experience in their application a lot of us can catch it. I know I have a pretty good memory, and if a person says they have ran 10 tren cycles and I know for a fact that they ran their first one last year, I can call bullshit. Or anyone can call them out.
Problem solved, Vike, Nitti, bber, noid, and BFG know physique, they have different backgrounds to judge etc.
What this does is assures everyone that hey, this bro or brozette giving advice ain't a fricken parrot. This bro or brozette lives this shit and knows what the hell he or she is saying.
BOOM! Problem solved.
Thanks, I'll be here all week.
thats nice but what if you are a powerlifter..? I'll never strip down to 10 percent or lower bf .. that isn't my game.. so I get some pos tag bc I m NOT a bb? my physique doesn't fit the cookie cutter? Lets see your PIC ED... you go first eh? ;p
Lol, obviously you just skimmed my post or you would have read that a pro can be a pro in their own category. One can look at a power lifter and see If he or she is serious about it can't they? I can, I'm sure you can. As far as the pics go..sorry only the mods see the pics that's part of the rules. You'll have to reinstate your mod tag to get a piece of that action. :).
Please read better next time. I covered all of this and I hate re-explaining things.
Love you Grrlie
I just wanted to see if you'd be consistent ED .. thank you for being the rock star that you are
all my LOVE
Grrrlie
Lol. I am consistent. Well consistently a tool.
:).
your description not mine ;)
LOL, I am sure the mods will love sorting through thousands of pics and profiles. Then the no doubt appeals process when someone (not unlike EBC) doesn't get or place where they want.
Yeah, perhaps this could be for the Pro, adv, and exp tags. Say one has to pass level three on his or her own to even submit the application for the various tags. This assures that one has put the time in before even being considered.
Benny BlancoThat's very interesting. Probably far too much damn work for the admin, but might be nice otherwise.
Cheap MotelsAlways coming up with well thought out plans. I guess that is why you never get caught.lol
That and no one lives to tell the tale.
My gawd I tried to stay away from this thread and any that even talks about karma! Just scrap the karma idea. As long as I'm welcome and can share my experiences as well as others share theirs with me/us who gives a shit about karma. Nothing like a good tongue lashing to the idiots that post stupid shit rather than taking or rewarding karma. We know who the good ones are and it doesn't take long to figure it out either.....
Benny BlancoThis might actually be one of the best ideas I've seen. If a new motherfucker needs to know who to go for advice, they can just ask around. +0 Black Doug. You're the right Doug as far as I'm concerned.
AnonLet's reset this motherfucker!!! Hit the little red button nuke this shit only the strong survive. I'll feed myself on the flesh of the weak and timid. You wanna see Alpha style then drop everyone to zero. You'll find your glory hole suck off boys in a matter of hours. You'll find your true assets and the rest can live by sucking off the collective knowledge tit like the lil puppies they really are.
Quit being nice about karma already. Too much talking about this and that. Nuke it all
AnonThat would be a great idea if you get it stream lined with new guide lines and all that. Or let ur join date be more of your honor patch. Instead of karma make it, Established 20??. Put up guide lines of how much activity must be put in to maintain active status. Also if your banned X numbers of days in a year your date starts over. Something along those lines. When I look at "who's this dude I'm asking or that is giving me advice. I look at the join date. If they joined around the time I did or after and they have 200-300 more points than me. I proceed with caution. Day's sum shit in th game if they got stacks like that. That quick. There are exceptions to every rule. And checking out their forum history will usually clear it up. If their join date is in 2009 and they are still level 1. They may still have great knowledge. Just a little private. Karma is definitely a ying/yang deal. Good comment "quit being nice" wrong is wrong. Right is right. Even if ur boy messes up. Bam him in the head. If you see the dude u keyboard boxed with the night before deserve the +1 give it up. Shit ain't personal. Shouldn't be anyway. Nice work on the EBC C&C!!! Thanks men.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkCheap MotelsI like that idea but mainly and welcome it. I feel its the Karma in the review section that needs to end the most. This being a reviews site hinges on accurate as possible reviews. If I pay you for a good review your are more than likely going to leave one over me taking money away for a bad one. The thumbs up and down could still be there as to say hey you did a good job but karma should not be a factor in the review section. All the rest can be controlled by the members. I have a example. I posted pics of 6 or 7 products one time. I did not know at the time I could post multiple pics. The members including you talked shit to me. This hurt my feelings and i never did it again. I posted a lab once and was told I did a great job so I started posting all my labs.