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+ 5 Karma is meaningless? U sure?

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I have a question. Well a couple questions. First,.. Is anyone confused on what is considered karma whoring?
Give me a list of things you would consider pimping yourself out for points? Let's clear the air.

I already know how much karma means to some of you. And how proud you are of the tag next to your pic. But I'll be honest. About 80% of you who sky rocketed up to advanced or higher in a year or less , you didn't get those points from being an AAS guru and helping everyone in the forum. I can count maybe 10 people in the last 12 months who really dedicate their time to help with cycles and other questions. Other than them, it's almost ALL from posting pics one after another after another like we don't see the patterns. Some even send Mass PM's telling ppl to check out their pics without actually saying "hey give me some karma".

I'm making it clear here and now! I'm going to start digging through ppls karma closely to look for patterns. I hope you don't have a little clique of friends who circle jerk each other's karma because It might just disappear from your page. If you think you might fall under the spotlight and want to come clean, I might let you go with a warning and a doc. Karma may not be important in reality but wait, you sure about that? Because I know of sources who send shit loads of gear to high ranking members in promos thanking them for their service to the site. So there is a lot of free gear at stake which makes it very important to a lot of ppl.

If I find anything suspect and it reveals anything obviously underhanded, unless you came clean , you won't be shown any mercy.

I see a lot of ideas for changing the system. Some are actually really good. Don't not so much.
1). Stop giving karma for gear pics.
Here's the problem with that. You do remember buying that bottle of test e in the gym and dying to get online to check the images on google to see if they match? I do. Or the sust amps. We all had Karachi at some point. Your boy says "yo those are bootleg homie" and you don't wana believe it and again can't wait to get home to check the google images for a match. Those images are coming from the top AAS sites on the planet. Well who is number 1? We are! So those images are your gear pics. It's an important part of the site. But I don't think you guys should be bumping karma for a pic of a bottle of test prop. If there's an impressive stash or big order , letting us know you got it.
2). Put a cap on karma in pics!
Not bad. I can see that. 5 point max with all the upvotes you can handle. Works for me.***
This one is classic,...
3). Have a book and bail system implemented for karma whores
If you get caught in a circle jerk or whoring for pics you get a temp ban (booked) and you can return after x amount of days with a warning and a points dock depending on the level of the offense. Do it again and you get booked with a temp ban but this time no ROR. You gotta pay bail to get back on. $25 fee to the eroids fund. Help pay for the server or any other expenses the boss has. Get 3 months probation (no karma awarded during probation). Do it a third time you're permabanned unless you pay $100 bail and get 3-6 months probation (no karma awarded during probation) with a reset of your score upon your return.
Now I'll admit this is kinda ghetto. But it's actually not a bad idea

Another by iron game

So I'm posting this at the request of a fellow member who could not post it themselves due to some different reasons I dont even understand lol. So just just wanna make that clear, these are not my thoughts, just helping out a fellow eroider who sent me a message asking to post this for them.
"The problem with the karma system is not the people who post pictures. Posting all the time is stupid, but it gives you no karma. The problem with the system is the people giving the karma. People need to think before they click, is this picture appropriate, helpful, a good representation of eroids? Most likely the answer is no, then do not up vote that picture. Make a comment, "nice pic bro" or whatever but do not give people karma just for the hell of it. Limiting the amount of points per picture is not a good idea. I have seen people get 30+ hits but it's normally because of amazing progress or fast results. I have also seen incredibly out of shape people get tons of karma, and this blows my mind. If a person posts a shot and they look like they have never touched a weight, why are you giving them karma?
IMHO Gear pics should not be availble for karma. Post the pic sure, but only because you need to show what you got. Too many people post the same vials in different poses over and over and over that's ridiculous."

Nitti's picture

"Tag indicates level of experience in AAS but karma indicates experience on the site.
This is exactly what I want to achieve with that thing currently in (slow) development."

-BFG

Catalyst's picture

That is exactly what I'd like to see, the tag being in line with AAS knowledge. The two things are separate entities and could do with being treated as such.

Pale's picture

It should be base on experience but I can see all hell breaking loose when/if it comes to pass. There are so many degree's of knowledge and then there is knowledge versus real experience. Someone can easily talk the talk, but the ones who walk the walk are the ones that should be rewarded,imo.

kodiakGRRL's picture

pictures or it didn't happen

2500hd's picture

X2

Catalyst's picture

Agree. Seems like BFG and the mod team want this to happen to I'm sure they'll work it out. Definite potential for people to throw their toys out of their prams.....(is that another new one for you US guys to learn?)

Pale's picture

Absolutely. Now I need to find the definition of Pram!

Catalyst's picture

Pushchair / stroller / buggy.

Catalyst's picture

Absolutely - seems difficult in terms of work required to implement.

Fearless's picture

Bumping this! Amazing ideology. Sounds good in theory, now let's put it to practice.

CarlosDanger 3 days ago
Let's reset this motherfucker!!! Hit the little red button nuke this shit only the strong survive. I'll feed myself on the flesh of the weak and timid. You wanna see Alpha style then drop everyone to zero. You'll find your glory hole suck off boys in a matter of hours. You'll find your true assets and the rest can live by sucking off the collective knowledge tit like the lil puppies they really are.
Quit being nice about karma already. Too much talking about this and that. Nuke it all

Sumatra_Triangle's picture

lol someone negged you.

I can see your point, but I think this isn't for me to spend my time on! Kharma, whoreing etc. LOL

well maybe some whoring lol

Nitti's picture

Yeah they're about to get smacked back to reality In a min

fusebox's picture

I accidently negd something. Not sure what or when. Dear God I hope it wasn't this.

Sumatra_Triangle's picture

Honestly, you have been a mod for a while here. It's been really quiet since GG lor around there. You guys must be doing somthing right.

I dont know how you have the patience, especially as a fighter.

irongame427's picture

I like that idea, but rusty does have a point. It took me a long time to figure out how to navigate the site.

kth3446's picture

There is so much to learn all over the place here. i just recently started reading thru cycle logs and its just another amazing place with an incredible wealth of knowledge.

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kth3446's picture

My first pussy neg, awesome

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2500hd's picture

Sometimes it's from guys like me that use an iPad and accidentally hit it. Just saying I don't even see where u were negged

kth3446's picture

I hope so, id hate to think i offended someeone and don't know why. it probably was an accident but i went from 147 to 144 back up to 146 lol. its not the karma, i got just the right amount to reflect how long i been heree and how much I'm around, its not knowing why sometimes.

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rolltide3's picture

Dude welcome to eriods lol. Ur not official part of the club till u get pussy negged. There for a while I was getting three a week

manbearpig's picture

After reading this entire forum and all the ideas my head kinda hurts. Lol... Here is my solution:

Thumbs up from forums, cycle logs, and lab tests need to be weighted at twice as much karma as gear pics, self shots, and reviews. I also like Ed's idea that tags (adv, exp, pro) should be awarded at a mod's discretion, not a set karma number.

There is no system of rewards that can't be exploited. But this will show who is doing the real work over time. It gives more incentive to help others in the forums. And it isn't so complicated that new members will struggle even more understanding the system.

kth3446's picture

That is very sensible, scales would balance over the long stretch.

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2500hd's picture

I see lots of good ideas in here.

This has nothing to do with karma but how about a basic quiz on the rules before a new member can post? may help to get rid of spammers as well.

Engineereddisaster's picture

How about this...
The mods put out a questionnaire of sorts.
Age, number of cycles, type of cycles ran, experience, area of expertise (bodybuilding, fighting, Olympic chess, etc.). And the tag that they believe they deserve along with an explanation.

Each person fills out the application and submits pics, certified by a dated newspaper and the person's Eroid name written in ink on their pectoral. The pics have to be specific poses designated by the mods and to date.
The mods then award pro tags, exp tags, adv tags etc.
The pics have to be kept in confidence just between the mods, but the resume/application has to be posted on the members into page.
What this does is separates the wheat from the tAres with no question. Is a person is lying about experience in their application a lot of us can catch it. I know I have a pretty good memory, and if a person says they have ran 10 tren cycles and I know for a fact that they ran their first one last year, I can call bullshit. Or anyone can call them out.

Problem solved, Vike, Nitti, bber, noid, and BFG know physique, they have different backgrounds to judge etc.

What this does is assures everyone that hey, this bro or brozette giving advice ain't a fricken parrot. This bro or brozette lives this shit and knows what the hell he or she is saying.
BOOM! Problem solved.

Thanks, I'll be here all week.

kodiakGRRL's picture

thats nice but what if you are a powerlifter..? I'll never strip down to 10 percent or lower bf .. that isn't my game.. so I get some pos tag bc I m NOT a bb? my physique doesn't fit the cookie cutter? Lets see your PIC ED... you go first eh? ;p

Engineereddisaster's picture

Lol, obviously you just skimmed my post or you would have read that a pro can be a pro in their own category. One can look at a power lifter and see If he or she is serious about it can't they? I can, I'm sure you can. As far as the pics go..sorry only the mods see the pics that's part of the rules. You'll have to reinstate your mod tag to get a piece of that action. :).
Please read better next time. I covered all of this and I hate re-explaining things.
Love you Grrlie

kodiakGRRL's picture

I just wanted to see if you'd be consistent ED .. thank you for being the rock star that you are

all my LOVE
Grrrlie

Engineereddisaster's picture

Lol. I am consistent. Well consistently a tool.

:).

kodiakGRRL's picture

your description not mine ;)

Pale's picture

LOL, I am sure the mods will love sorting through thousands of pics and profiles. Then the no doubt appeals process when someone (not unlike EBC) doesn't get or place where they want.

Engineereddisaster's picture

Yeah, perhaps this could be for the Pro, adv, and exp tags. Say one has to pass level three on his or her own to even submit the application for the various tags. This assures that one has put the time in before even being considered.

Engineereddisaster's picture

That and no one lives to tell the tale. Smile

BlackDoug's picture

My gawd I tried to stay away from this thread and any that even talks about karma! Just scrap the karma idea. As long as I'm welcome and can share my experiences as well as others share theirs with me/us who gives a shit about karma. Nothing like a good tongue lashing to the idiots that post stupid shit rather than taking or rewarding karma. We know who the good ones are and it doesn't take long to figure it out either.....