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+ 5 Karma is meaningless? U sure?

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I have a question. Well a couple questions. First,.. Is anyone confused on what is considered karma whoring?
Give me a list of things you would consider pimping yourself out for points? Let's clear the air.

I already know how much karma means to some of you. And how proud you are of the tag next to your pic. But I'll be honest. About 80% of you who sky rocketed up to advanced or higher in a year or less , you didn't get those points from being an AAS guru and helping everyone in the forum. I can count maybe 10 people in the last 12 months who really dedicate their time to help with cycles and other questions. Other than them, it's almost ALL from posting pics one after another after another like we don't see the patterns. Some even send Mass PM's telling ppl to check out their pics without actually saying "hey give me some karma".

I'm making it clear here and now! I'm going to start digging through ppls karma closely to look for patterns. I hope you don't have a little clique of friends who circle jerk each other's karma because It might just disappear from your page. If you think you might fall under the spotlight and want to come clean, I might let you go with a warning and a doc. Karma may not be important in reality but wait, you sure about that? Because I know of sources who send shit loads of gear to high ranking members in promos thanking them for their service to the site. So there is a lot of free gear at stake which makes it very important to a lot of ppl.

If I find anything suspect and it reveals anything obviously underhanded, unless you came clean , you won't be shown any mercy.

I see a lot of ideas for changing the system. Some are actually really good. Don't not so much.
1). Stop giving karma for gear pics.
Here's the problem with that. You do remember buying that bottle of test e in the gym and dying to get online to check the images on google to see if they match? I do. Or the sust amps. We all had Karachi at some point. Your boy says "yo those are bootleg homie" and you don't wana believe it and again can't wait to get home to check the google images for a match. Those images are coming from the top AAS sites on the planet. Well who is number 1? We are! So those images are your gear pics. It's an important part of the site. But I don't think you guys should be bumping karma for a pic of a bottle of test prop. If there's an impressive stash or big order , letting us know you got it.
2). Put a cap on karma in pics!
Not bad. I can see that. 5 point max with all the upvotes you can handle. Works for me.***
This one is classic,...
3). Have a book and bail system implemented for karma whores
If you get caught in a circle jerk or whoring for pics you get a temp ban (booked) and you can return after x amount of days with a warning and a points dock depending on the level of the offense. Do it again and you get booked with a temp ban but this time no ROR. You gotta pay bail to get back on. $25 fee to the eroids fund. Help pay for the server or any other expenses the boss has. Get 3 months probation (no karma awarded during probation). Do it a third time you're permabanned unless you pay $100 bail and get 3-6 months probation (no karma awarded during probation) with a reset of your score upon your return.
Now I'll admit this is kinda ghetto. But it's actually not a bad idea

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So I'm posting this at the request of a fellow member who could not post it themselves due to some different reasons I dont even understand lol. So just just wanna make that clear, these are not my thoughts, just helping out a fellow eroider who sent me a message asking to post this for them.
"The problem with the karma system is not the people who post pictures. Posting all the time is stupid, but it gives you no karma. The problem with the system is the people giving the karma. People need to think before they click, is this picture appropriate, helpful, a good representation of eroids? Most likely the answer is no, then do not up vote that picture. Make a comment, "nice pic bro" or whatever but do not give people karma just for the hell of it. Limiting the amount of points per picture is not a good idea. I have seen people get 30+ hits but it's normally because of amazing progress or fast results. I have also seen incredibly out of shape people get tons of karma, and this blows my mind. If a person posts a shot and they look like they have never touched a weight, why are you giving them karma?
IMHO Gear pics should not be availble for karma. Post the pic sure, but only because you need to show what you got. Too many people post the same vials in different poses over and over and over that's ridiculous."

rolltide3's picture

U crazy mofo helped me out homie. When I first started really helped me fit in

TED's picture

You're the "FUNNY MAN". Too funny for your own good

Oh and the quotes is from a movie. Hoping you get the reference haha

Gymjunkie01's picture

well u are one crazy bastard

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Gymjunkie01's picture

That's the nicest thing any uncle has ever said to there nephew after they got molested

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TED's picture

Well obviously that's not something I was privy to! lol fair enough then

TED's picture

I'm just worried about catching a dark black tag with the crackdown on the age thing lately. But if it happens so be it. This place has done nothing but teach me and there's a lot of good dudes. You included

Nitti's picture

Ted you're cool bro. Fall back

TED's picture

Yea no Vik put me at ease. I'm good. Sorry for pushing the forum off topic

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Dont panic bro.... you have zero probs here now, just keep learning bro and it wont be long before you become an asset.

TED's picture

Really appreciate it vik. Hopefully I'll be able to help the way many of you have helped me in the future.

Gsxr1000spanker's picture

Thanks Nitti. Keeping us whore free! Silly whores;-)

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MONK's picture

Maybe a cap of like 5/10 karma per pic?

There's a system in place, monitored not only by MoDs (obviously) but good members to.If whoring does go on it's usually spotted fairly quickly and called out/delt with.

As long as it's not abused I think it's an important part of the site, taking away a karma point for posting was a great move. I don't wanna jinx anything (I know things can be very different behind the scenes) but the mentality of members and generally running of the site seems in a great place right now. Like I say, I could be way off as MoDs see all.

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Gsxr1000spanker's picture

How about 5 thumbs up = 1 point for pics?

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irongame427's picture

I like that idea or something similar. People will still post because there is some reward for doing so.

Pale's picture

I agree with you, the vibe around here has been great for the last few weeks.

MONK's picture

Negged my homie by accident lol (corrected). Yeah man, peeps helping out all over the joint, loads of positivity and really good feel about the place right now in my humble opinion.

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tonytulo's picture

I have an opinion about this as it has bothered my wife and i amongst others i talk to regularly. The only time i ever pm someone to look at my one pic or my wives two it is because i honestly respect that persons opinion and want to hear their advice if anything. In the real world we are both extremely quiet and humble people especially at the gym. I know for a fact it deters people on this site to post a pic to have their progress judged when thy know that if another person posts a pic showing their ass in a bikini or fishing for attention will have their leg humped to death,while their pic gets little to no attention even if they clearly are more of an elite athlete then the other person let alone the progress difference made by either. The same goes for some of these ridiculous posts made in the forums that has absolutely nothing to do with anything yet they get voted up to all hell, when in the mean time someone else posts up some knowledge or tries to make a difference barley anyone says anything let alon votes them up. Pretty sad that instead of true progress and athleticism being voted up a woman who shows her ass off or pushes her breasts out fishing for attention or some other random shit gets more comments or upvotes, the same goes for the men who post up pics every other day im amazed they can stand up straight anymore in those pics , their big head must be getting heavy. I just dont see upvoting posts if they are irrelevant to anything whether it be pics or in the forums. An dont get me started on the upvoting each other because two advanced members are having a comedy session on someone elses post about something that is relevant or important. I think some people are losing sight on what this site is designed for like roid noid pointed out a week or so ago. Its becoming more of a circle jerk for attention whores male or female, instead of being a site for legit sources, knowledge, and the occasional progress pics. An you cant really be making progress every other day so why be allowed to post Recent pics every other day? I dunno just my opinion . I mean who would you rather get advice from a exp member with 50 to 100 gear pics and selfies or the exp member with maybe 5 to 10 selfies and gear pics. Need i say more.

Pale's picture

Look, I get where you are coming from but you seem to be dwelling on the females a bit here. We love our eroids ladies and it does take a lot more for them to post up in this testosterone rich environment. Just don't add your vote to the tally if you don't appreciate them.

Sadly in many cases it does come down to a popularity contest, it isn't right but everyone has free will on who they vote for. So as long as they are not sending pm's and stuff calling in votes that is another example of where the sites hands are tied. The SI guys will usually pull more karma for instance.

Either way bro, all love, no homo.

Nitti's picture

I find it amusing that almost all the comments are from the few ppl who actually help out

Engineereddisaster's picture

I say delete any karma points acquired through pics. Just for fun, it can be temporary for say...the next two weeks. This will give an excellent idea of who whored the points through pics. Might be a fun test. :).

Nitti's picture

The pics do help. It is a necessary part of the review site IMO. Even gear pics. Didn't you ever get a bottle of test from joe boxer at Kmart and wanted to check out what ppl said about it on the web? See if your bottle looks like the ones online?

Nitti's picture

Bro you know it helps the ppl who order blind and need to check their shit. Match pics up etc. If people were just fucking honest the system would work

Nitti's picture

I agree. But we went over it and BFG already took the auto point you get for posting it. That was a slight deterrent. But that's it. Besides I think a post of a giant order or huge stash is worthy of a few points. I've seen some impressive pics. Gear porn?

irongame427's picture

Ya thinking about it that way you're right. I don't think anyone would post pictures if they didn't get points for it. You know people are getting their orders when you see pics going up every single day. Just wish there was a way to do it differently.

Nitti's picture

We want them to post pics but not 4 a week of a bottle here and there.

irongame427's picture

Lol splitting up an order and posting one picture each day for a week.

irongame427's picture

I constantly consider taking all mine down an not posting anymore for security purposes. Shit worries me man. Give it about a week for the tren to clear my system and the paranoia to go away and I'll think differently lol. I think the gear pics are important so people see orders landing. Maybe I wouldn't be so bitter about getting karma from gear pics if people started giving me some lol. Nobody gives a shit about my small broke college kid orders you only get karma for the big boy orders.

fusebox's picture

Unfortunately it is a popularity contest. Gear pics vs selfies. Some people post a pic for a promo that they received or an order and they get no comments others post a very similar pic and get 10-20 comments from lots of high ranking members. Are they all nut hugging. Idk. Then there are some that maybe haven't been here long that are well deserving of their tag and some others that should be higher than they are based upon what they bring to the board. Just my opinion

irongame427's picture

I wish karma could only be earned from the forums. 95% of members would still be level 1. It causes problem when a adv member who clearly doesn't have any knowlede about diet/training/steroids and got all his karma from pictures decides to start "helping" in the forums. Then they offer either blatantly wrong advice or even worse dangerous advice. And the member askjng for the advice takes it to heart due to the adv tag.

While karams not meaningless, it is misleading at times. There's guys with exp and adv tags that don't know the first thing about any aspect of this lifestyle. They got those tags from posting pictures all the time. So it's definitely not meaningless, it can be very misleading.

Nitti's picture

It took me 2 years to get advanced and if u follow my track , I have been in the trenches for a long time. When I became a mod , it sky rocketed. Certain ppl like to hump mod legs to stay on their good side (so they think). I was never a fan of a nut hugger so I usually ask ppl not to bump my pics when I post them.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

I didnt go through the tag system.. i jumped from New to Pro when BFG found out who i was......... but you know i worked fkn hard in the trenches for a hella long time...... i used to cross my fingers every time i logged in hoping i had not been banned...... i used to stay well clear of noid and hollywood because i knew we had way different opinions about things and i had my wings clipped a few times by being reminded this was Not a BB site! so i held a ton of knowledge back! which i still do actually because i could potentially damage a lot of people, so best i keep a lid on it to a point i think.

Someone once compared me to Tread but with real muscles and a real competition background...... some comments you never forget!.. thats one of them for me :))

How much longer i last here is questionable, we never know what tomorrow truly holds..... i think certain people are getting jaded with me lately, i also sense jealousy! but that may just be me being overly tired this week i dunno.......... anyway there you go im cool with things at the moment but taking a bit of a back seat with the forums and concentrating more on my MOD duties...... cycle advice is a thing of the past due to the lunacy i see going here with nobody really listening apart from our old faithful s who i will help out at the drop of a hat (you guys know who you are)... the vcrazed halo jumpers can do their own thing as can the DNP crowd (yes! i know who you are).

Happy eroiding mofos....... its ALL here if you just open your eyes and keep an open mind.... good luck :))

Gsxr1000spanker's picture

Dude, your advise has always been golden. Haven't learned more off anybody else on this site. Cheers buddy!

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Thanks bro.. you're one of the guys in brackets bye the way Smile