+ 31 Getting Gear Tested
Getting your gear tested is allot easier then you may think. But you will have to do some serious chemistry homework first. For those of you who live in the USA, most universities offer these services to industry and the public for a fee. First locate a major public university, I say "major" because Liquid Chromatography Mass Spectrometry LC/MS machines don't grow on trees, although some smaller school may also have them.
Lets take world famous UC Berkeley for example, their fees for analyzing samples by LCMS are here: http://qb3.berkeley.edu/qb3/msf/rates.cfm
I agree it is a little pricey at $153 per sample but if you think your going to buy a whole bunch of gear it could be worth it. I have seen fees as low as $10,, sleep with that chemistry graduate student and get all your samples run for free.
How much sample do they need? Literally 1 drop will do, the machines are extraordinarily sensitive.
So what does an LC/MS do? It separates all of the components of a mixture and determines there molecular weights. How does it do this... get a PhD.
So if you test a vial of Test Enth, the LC/MS should show a large amount of ions of molecular weigh 401.31, because that is the molecular weight of the Test Enth molecule,, +1 for ionization. You don't have to tell the people at the facility what your sample is, in fact most of the samples they run are unknowns (that's why they are testing!). Just say your looking for a mass of 401.31. If your sample doesn't have this large number of ions then there is no Test Enth in your sample.
I recently had a sample of the new Syntrop DPL4fifty from one of eroids top 5 suppliers tested. It was suppose to be composed of Test Enth and Drostanolone Enth. It did test positive for a large quantity of Test Enth, but there were no significant ions at 417.33, meaning no Drostanolone Enth, it was fake, but it would still have given me results if I had used it because it was loaded with testosterone. So now I have a question for you, how does anybody know what this steroid or that steroid actually does when you have no idea what's in your vial?
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AnonWhy not just have some blood work done? You can see if your test levels are up and get some other pertinent info on other blood levels at the same time.
I agree this seems like much easier and safer and likely cheaper way to go.
Can someone hit me up if you have a lab i can get a sample tested at.. i would really appriciate it
I have access to a lab for testing!
Hey brother I would love to send some gear to get tested. Please let me know if this might be possible, and wh at the cost and procedure would be thanks. It would really help us all out I used to send it to a lab in Utah and it was about a bill a test.
AnonHe sure does and hes our new hero!!!!
I'v tried searching for a place in DK. But doesn't look like any of the universities sell these tests :-(
I've seen one of these when I went to the university for 3 years. A mass spectrum machine is huge! Takes up an entire room.
But aren't there something like this in China perhaps? I mean they usually don't care about anything.
Anyone ? I have looked more into this i found one source that is good but you buy it then take it to your gp to get it done or hospital this would not work in my case as my doctor has his head up is arse and it was 3 and a half month b4 he sent me for a mri 6 mnths down the line i am just starting physio badtimes lol so much for free health care.any advice would be great never had my bloods done b4 but would love to do this as to make aas cycles and pct better and know what is going with my test on cycle and in pct and nat test after pct. Pm me if anyone has advice thanks.
great read and a lot of things to think about!!!!
Could any one tell me how i would get my urine or bloods done in the uk or know any good sources you could pm plz ? i have been looking but it allways comes back to police tests lawyers ect and never for the public use.the sources i have seen i know to be fake and do not trust.any help would be great thanks.
Wow i ran that bunk shit i threw away 6 bottles of Biogen awhile back scary.
Wow, what an awesome (but scary) post! Im a bit freaked out now about what crazy shit I might be sticking in my ass! When bros are talking about "crazy unreal agony PIP" maybe its because there is some whacked out shit in there?
Got my lab reports back today on the product that almost killed my brother, Biogen winstrol inj 50 was loaded with clenbuterol hardly any stanozolol and some testosterone. The Masterone had no trace of it in there it was Nandralone epitren tren and clenbuterol, so by mixing these two he got a double dose of clen and sent him to the ER, and the lab tech said he could smell a strong solvent smell coming from them, im guessing its the tren, and stanozolol for the both stink, but this is totally unacceptable to me
To add to the topic (not to promote or spam), there is an individual/organization that posted on another site that they will test gear in accredited laboratories located in Europe. An email address was posted for details. The price listed was 100 euros. I imagine that it would be worth the trouble. With mod approval I could post a link or the addy.
I have heard the DEA is pressuring small testing labs not to do work for people they think are steroid users. Labs aren't going to risk it for $100-200 and possibly be shut down. Maybe the gossip I'm hearing is just gossip, but it makes sense if you think about it. Many guys get bloodwork done to test gear. Labcorp chops it off at 1500ng, but if you see its over that, should be good gear (just doesn't say if its a little underdosed or not). There's a site that uses labcorp and you can get the female panel done, which has cbc/metabolic/test/estrogen/LH for about $60. The male one is like $150+, and the female one has the same tests, if you order it labcorp even has the right ranges for male, the only difference is you don't pay the extra money
I don't want to post a link for being labeled as a spammer, but if you do some searching its not hard to find. All they are is a private md lab.
My test was around 70 bucks here in the US. No problems.
mine is 35 in eu and great people... been there for years...gbn.com
Are those doping tests for athletes?
No.
Heres another way of going about finding out if your gear may be legit. Not 100% accurate but pretty good way for decent price. If your already taking the gear just load up as much as you can for your cycle and send off a urine home steroid test to the lab. Cost me about 70 bucks. They test for numerous anabolics. Obviously if your taking Deca and that is one of the steroids they test for, it better come back possitive for it. If not obviously your deca is not legit. It may have something else in it but it's not deca. My 2 cents.
I think we should including online testing centers on our review site for getting both gear tested and bloods done. just my .02
Agree brother!
Damn right sir. Lets have testing facilities up along with sources and products
sending an illegal substance for testing at a major university.. hmm what could go wrong?
What about getting Var tested? is that possible???
what about getting tabs tested? where can that be done?
Interesting thread. Cool pics Roadkill of the machine used for the testing!
We recently had some HGH and Follistatin tested at ProMuscle.
It wasnt cheap, 800 per sample. Im always interested in reading and learning more on things like this. I Hope to see testing become more available to everyone.
Good thread and info.
How do you find out whitch steroid should be a certain molecular weight, and does it matter if the compound is in different kinds of oils or water for suspention. And does higher the number mean stronger, For ex, if my test eth was 399.0 instead of 401.31 or thats not how it works. What should tren ace test? And does it matter the enitial strength of the steroid like 100mg per ml. would that be a different number than 300mg per ml? Thanks alot, Dave
Please read the thread, most if not ALL your questions have been answered.
Anyone know if there's anything like this in the UK? With gear being legal to posess for personal use I'd guess it should be pretty straightforward if you know where to go?
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His charts showed it as a % rather than as mg/ml.
But the calulation would be rather straight forward.
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Nasty81NateNo, that's test cyps molecular weight
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AnonThe test will tell you what amounts of x,y,z are present. you have to find the readings for what primo is "supposed" to be... I saw a link for that somewhere on this thread.. I think it was posted by KMC but I could be mistaken
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As I recall, the pic's he posted of the machine printouts showed a percentage of the given substance (possible by weight {note the tern "MASS" in the name of the machine]),
So you would need to do a calulation as to the weight of the oil, BA, BB and so fore to get the final number.
ETA: or you could just weight a ml of the gear and calulate the percentage, the caveat would be being able to acurately measure and weigh that 1 ml.
Very helpful, and cool. Great first post.
sgtstedankoFUCK! How did I miss this one a month ago : (!!! I like your 1st post a whole lot brother. Thanks for this info... Looks like mine is going to the local high school football team. {God know those pussies need it}
Your d man...
same here sI512. lol
no really, good post
I test mine like this, get a syringe and shoot some in your ass lmfao. Good post
I test all my own and have found unusual results from a variety of suppliers, from odd mixtures to vegetable oil (also grapeseed oil) to water to being completely legit. My policy is simply to stop doing business with the source and make a small statement on here regarding the illegitimacy of the product. If even one of the products is "watered" down or not legit but the others are, I still stop business. Integrity is an unknown characteristic that the new generation doesn't even know. Sad.
Anoni saw you gave AB a positive review but did you actually test his stuff? could you share specifics on the tests you've done and on which gear?
Yes to the first and no to the second. The mask of a computer screen (or iPhone) prohibits me from ever taking such a risk. As with everyone, too much at stake.
Could you just say what labs had what they were suppost to in the vial? And if dosed correctly?
AnonI don't see why you can't post the test results....other test results have been posted...maybe an explanation is in order?
I respectfully disagree (that an explanation is in order), although I can understand why it would be beneficial to other members. My initial comment was foolish and I should not have made a statement that would draw such attention. Despite this, I stand by what I stated and cannot further elaborate, except to state that my testing is accurate and commonly used by others to identify and quantify exact compositions and molecular structures. I do not wish to compromise who and what I am in order to appease a few individuals. As such, I wish to contribute and impart my knowledge for safe and effective use of such compounds. Best, Doc.
sgtstedankoDoc!? Do you happen to be a member on any other boards AF perhaps? If so, we've had conversations in the past, & I'll personaly vouch for you. Not that it means much around here:( Stick around, share your knowledge. We all need more... Would it be possible to black out all identifying data, & just leave the pertinent results visible? Last thing we want is to ruin someone's career. I myself, will not be posting pics, etc for that very reason. In this market, especially Aas related. Everyone is distrustful, & just about everyone has purchased nothing but grape seed oil. So its human nature not to trust. Behind a CPU screen. Kmi