+ 31 Getting Gear Tested
Getting your gear tested is allot easier then you may think. But you will have to do some serious chemistry homework first. For those of you who live in the USA, most universities offer these services to industry and the public for a fee. First locate a major public university, I say "major" because Liquid Chromatography Mass Spectrometry LC/MS machines don't grow on trees, although some smaller school may also have them.
Lets take world famous UC Berkeley for example, their fees for analyzing samples by LCMS are here: http://qb3.berkeley.edu/qb3/msf/rates.cfm
I agree it is a little pricey at $153 per sample but if you think your going to buy a whole bunch of gear it could be worth it. I have seen fees as low as $10,, sleep with that chemistry graduate student and get all your samples run for free.
How much sample do they need? Literally 1 drop will do, the machines are extraordinarily sensitive.
So what does an LC/MS do? It separates all of the components of a mixture and determines there molecular weights. How does it do this... get a PhD.
So if you test a vial of Test Enth, the LC/MS should show a large amount of ions of molecular weigh 401.31, because that is the molecular weight of the Test Enth molecule,, +1 for ionization. You don't have to tell the people at the facility what your sample is, in fact most of the samples they run are unknowns (that's why they are testing!). Just say your looking for a mass of 401.31. If your sample doesn't have this large number of ions then there is no Test Enth in your sample.
I recently had a sample of the new Syntrop DPL4fifty from one of eroids top 5 suppliers tested. It was suppose to be composed of Test Enth and Drostanolone Enth. It did test positive for a large quantity of Test Enth, but there were no significant ions at 417.33, meaning no Drostanolone Enth, it was fake, but it would still have given me results if I had used it because it was loaded with testosterone. So now I have a question for you, how does anybody know what this steroid or that steroid actually does when you have no idea what's in your vial?
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Locate the guilty party...
Bring them henceforth..so that we may devour their flesh.
This is outstanding info..I knew of the lab in Utah, but could not find any AAS compounds on thier list of item avaialble to test.
$153 is a small price to pay for security, and I WILL be looking into this.
Whoever is selling this should be called out and roasted.
We'll give them the opportunity to right this injustice first. You may have some misconceptions, most routine LC/MS can test for any molecule of between 100 and 3000 mass units, that covers all known steroids, some mass spectrometers can go much higher and can test for peptides too!! So you can tell if that $1000 dust you paid for is HGH or sugar.
They can't "right " this with me as far as i'm concerned. They brag in great detail on the website about how "state-of-the-art" thier hybrids are,with extensive testing and "research", and there's NO Deca in this stuff? We have a guy in the number one spot right now who brews in a fucking garage, and makes no bones about his skills, and apparently doing a hell of a job. They know full well that people are not going to test thier gear. When you get right down to it, you can sell some potent test to a newbie and call it Deca, Tren, Mast, EQ, Primo,..or anything else, and come out looking legit as Jesus.
I mean, I suppose they could send you another bottle with Deca actually put in it, but one has to wonder how many they sold like this..and how many other compounds are affected. And you just KNOW this is probably the tip of the iceberg.
But make it right?? That's like catching BP selling you a gallon of gas that's half water, and then accepting a free gallon of gas as a permanent fix, disregarding the millions of gallons sold to others. the only difference is BP can actually be held accountable, whereas these guys are untouchable.
First Justin Beiber cheats on his girlfriend, and now this. I've lost all faith in humanity...But I WILL be testing gear from now on.
Grrrl, load up the lixus...
Just for the record it was Drostanolone, not Deca. Think masteron enanthate. You are correct however about everything else you said.
OOPs...I dont know why I was thinking Nandrolone...I'm so use to Lixus, I was probably thinking of the counterpart to thier Nandrotest 400.
Anonis this telling you how much test e is in the sample or just that it has some? also, the other spikes, do they mean anything?
Outstanding questions!! The answers are quite involved thought. Simplified... LCMS can be used to determine exactly how much of a particular compound is present but only after calibrating against a known standard. The data posted wasn't calibrated against anything. So we can't use it to say exactly how much was there. For our purposes the test was run just to see if it was present. The other spikes are other compounds striking the detector. Steroids are dissolved in natural oils which are not pure compounds, more like a soup. The LCMS detects these too.
you sir have created an original and thought provoking post, kudos to you my good man!
Nasty81NateNice research bro! +2 Karma
damn i just got some pfpsfifty from ....there
Wow great post bro!!
AnonRedemption is a wonderful thing, well done. Great first post
AnonPretty damn impressive for a first post. Now we will have expectations for future posts ;-)
ps is the road kill a squirrel?
Nice, and very helpful! Do you mind if I submit the raw data pic under your name in Pic gallery?
(or you do it..)
It is now community property. I have uploaded a picture of the vial as well.
Due to popular request the raw data is here:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/89d2c1157983267
This is what the instrument looks like:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/faead8157983292
http://www.imagebam.com/image/7a16cd157983299
There is an independent lab also in Utah that charges around $100 for the testing; they can identify compounds and need 1ml of the liquid for the test
Many people will be requesting you to post a copy of these results BTW
Can you tell me the lab name?
AnonMake your own chit then just worry about your raw being correct. I think I'll grow my own tree and harvest it myself.
Eric090585post some result pics homie
but i'm intrigued by this post..i have a college less than a mile from me 
I'll get the popcorn
AnonSo in a not so direct "let me add a bunch of irrelevant technical information" way your saying you got gear from RegenerXXL, had it tested and found it to be improperly dosed (fake to a degree).. For a first post...
I would suggest to get your proof ready cuz I have a feeling your accusation isnt going to be taken lightly..