posted Fri, 10/30/2026 - 09:13
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Estrogen/AI question
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So I ran a cycle of 450 test and primo for 12 weeks, lowest e2 got to on cycle was 23. Went off blast and been cruising at 200 mg test for 7 weeks now and my e2 is at 72. Obviously high, but I don’t feel any high estrogen symptoms at all. No sensitive nipples, loss of libido, emotional etc. So my question is should I even take an AI if I’m not having any symptoms? Or if I should, what’s a good starting point for dosage? I have aromasin on hand that I never used on cycle since the primo took care of any estrogen aromatization and it stayed low. I’ve heard if you’re not having symptoms leave it alone but I’ve also heard if it’s above 45-50 take an AI as a preventative. I’d love to hear opinions/experienece/suggestions.
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Treat the symptoms, not the numbers!
That’s kinda what I was leaning towards. Thanks!
I wouldn’t. I’ll know when I need to because my nips get itchy, my shoes get tight, and my ankles look like Hillary Clinton’s ankles.
That’s kind of hot
Yeah I’m not sure what ester you take for your test. But I take Cypionate and pin EOD. I sit at like 435mg a week just cruising. This avoids fluctuations. I use to use an AI even at a lower dose of test but I would get some weird sides like almost panic attacks at night when I was trying to sleep. I would wake up choking for air (I assume from the hormones fluctuating and it causing sleep apnea). I have asthma but it’s basically gone on test but I would have weird breathing struggles when I took an AI. And I would retain so much water weight. Just straight moon face. Puffy cheeks.
I never got bloodwork but I don’t take an AI even at my crazy dose now. I feel fucking amazing. That’s what tells me the AI isn’t great for me.
Some people use masteron or other DHT-derived anabolic steroids to help lower levels and enhance mood. That effect is very mild though. But I personally don’t really recommend things like that. There are negatives. Plus if you’re going to hurt yourself you might as well focus on hurting yourself and taking things for keepable gains.
If you feel fine without the AI then you’re probably fine. Just try to stay aware of your mental state as well and not just the physical aspect.
Thanks for info! That’s crazy you can cruise at 435 and still not need an AI. I pin cyp on a cruise and enanthate on cycle 3 times a week so basically every other eod. But yeah I feel great overall. Energy and mood/mental state is good, no sensitive nips, maybe a little bit of water retention but I’m also on 4 iu growth so I think the water is more from that but even so it’s not bad at all. I think I’ll stick to just no AI unless I start getting some symptoms
Yeah HGH will definitely puff you up. Not personally my favorite. It gave me “more energy” meaning I slept less. But idk if it necessarily gave me more energy. Sometimes less sleep is worse for gains if you’re not getting enough. And the water weight was crazy. But if it’s good for you it’s good for you. But most likely that is what is causing the water weight.
Pinning test more frequently typically levels out hormones. Some people will say a shorter ester means less water weight but really frequency matters most. The more stable you keep those levels the less water weight the test will cause. So if you notice water weight after your GH cycle is over you may want to consider an AI. Or pinning more frequently.
If you don’t have to take the AI don’t. It’s not really great for you. But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Everybody is different.
I personally dont/wouldnt take anything until I have sides. I pin eod while cruising so I don't really have too much of an issue with e2.