posted Sun, 10/18/2026 - 16:21
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I’m almost done with a cut.
I’m 170lbs at 17.5% body fat.
Once I start bulking again I want to do it clean.
My nutritionist says I need only 60 grams of protein to hold my current weight. My friends say I need way more.
I normally do around 200 grams and dirty bulk. So to clean bulk, how low should my carbs be? And where should my protein be?
I’ve only ever dirty bulked and cut. So I know about spiking insulin to get the most out of protein.
But bulking on a minimum seems complicated.
Any experience, formulas and advice are appreciated.
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I don’t drink. But I do have vices.
Track suits and an expensive cigar once a week.
A dirty bulk and a clean bulk has nothing to do with the carb amount. It has to do with what type of carbs you are consuming. If you’re in a bulk then a large portion of your daily macros will be filled out predominantly from carbs. You set your fats imo best set low, aim for a gram of protein per pound of body weight, and then the rest of your calories are all from clean carbs. Rice, oats, that kind of shit.
Btw if you’re at 17% bf right now, then you are nowhere near the end of where the cut should end. Try getting to at least 12% before you swap over to even thinking about a bulk. Btw if you are on AAS, which I suspect you probably are, then dirty bulk should not even be something you ever consider.
For me, the only thing that ever really changes is carbs. I try to keep fats low and protein 225/day no matter what I weigh (205-215ish). If I wanna grow I increase carbs (and cals) and reverse that if I wanna cut .
I have no idea what my body fat% is. Chat gpt changes her little whore mind constantly and I'm too cheap for a dexa. So fuck it. Here's me like 2 mins ago. I look leaner in the mornings. I hate myself in the evenings.
I have that track suit. And many others like it.
Ya don't you remember me putting them on this morning??? I'll give em back babe
Yeah bro I’m the same my fats and proteins are locked and the carbs just scale up and down based on what my goals are with where I want my weight to go.
Hey…we are loose skin bros. We can have a flap fight lmao.
I ask all the AI’s, and they can’t figure it out either. One day I’m 8% the next they say I’m 11%.
You look good though bro, regardless of the gay loose skin. I don’t care, but one day I’m gonna spend the money to get mine ripped off!
Interesting.
I was unaware of this as a thing. I thought when goals changed so did diet.
Good to know.
Lol I probably will too in Mexico. Where it's like $150
Is it really that cheap there? Bro it’s like 7k here wtf!!
Oh I have no idea I'm just joking. Isn't everything half off and negotiable in Mexico?
True we also have turkey, but Mexico is much more close.
I almost had to take up residence in Mexico a while back when I was returning for a cruise and border patrol didn't wanna let me back into the usa. Was wild.
Was you on a Covid cruise??
No It was an identity issue. They didn't believe I was who I am. At one point I was pretty much like "fuck it I'm Mexican now,".
Would've began practicing plastic surgery myself
Being a pretend surgeon, it be like the movie “catch me if you can” lol
"catch me if you survive ur breast enhancement"
Sounds like a hardcore bdsm porn flick now lol
Oh yea @No08 here you go bby.
Fucking jaw line holy shit!! We are similar but I don’t have a badass jawline, I have nice eyes and good hair though. On a serious note I’m happy to relate with some of you guys on weight loss, it’s so hard to determine bf % with some of the loose skin. Guess it really doesn’t make a lick of difference if we’re happy, that’s hard to think sometimes though.
My hair is fukked. So you got me there. Post a pic slut
Thought that was a cigarette in ur ear at first hahaha. Honestly my first inclination was "fukn bad-ass".
You look great man. Very lean. Need to get my biceps on point like yours. Only think I have going for me is my chest, lats and upper back. And apparently my jawline hahaha
Yeah bro that chest and jaw line is on point bro.
My arms are way ahead of the game. This bulk I have coming up I wanna focus mainly on quads, upper traps, and lower lat thickness. Regardless I’m a weirdo and just wanna get big everywhere lol.
For milfy
Very jealous of your hair btw you sack of shit
Hello big boi!!
Fuckn delts for days...
You subscribed to delts daily?
Did you know whoever smelt it delt it?
Looks like it just playing the hand you were delt.
Looking good man.
I swear my legs aren’t as shitty as they look in the pictures too lol. That’s from about two months ago. Hoping to have it wrapped up by the holidays this year so I can actually put on some size. I’m a sawed off fucker lol, hopefully I can push up a decent amount without getting too fat. Also fingers crossed those little pockets of fat on me tits come off in the next 6 weeks.
Oh yea 5'7" just saw that. You should by all means be able to get massive dude. I'm 6'3" and my elbows and knees remind me daily.of it
I'm also old
Well come back to this around the holidays and I’ll update. The stack has gotten very spicy since this and I’ve still got about 5 weeks until it gets a little less seasoned lol
I don't get to high on the gear. I try to keep it reasonable to avoid a felony. Here's a pump pic. Only fair since you guys posted pumped pics haha
Dawg. What’s your weight at and what was your biggest?
That was this past Thursday lol. I'm 212-215 atm
I feel like I’m the perfect height for bodybuilding at 5’9”
You're just the perfect height. Period.
When I didn’t bodybuild I always wanted to be 6’1”
If you are:
You literally get a license in the mail to get non stop pussy. I'm not lying. It's like the illuminati.
I believe it! One of them is a check for me, then one I am currently working on but is very challenging. Then the other one is impossible unless I get the surgery for it, and it cost me my 6 figures if I ever succeed at it then I would be 2/3. I am not destined for non stop pussy in this life lol
You and @Jrb97 should get a long trench coat and just totem pole it.
When you get a lady to ur place, just unstack and be like TADAAAAAA THERES TWO OF US! and just Eifel tower all the sluts
Id be down if he is…
I don’t meet any of the criteria, so looks we’re going coat shopping
I think statistically 5’6-5’9 is the sweet spot. Obviously disregarding some absolute freaks
You 5’6 - 5’7 guys just look at a bench press and blow the fuck up lmao
Lol if I think about a bench press my shoulder starts hurting. Used to love that shit, can’t do it anymore. Oddly enough incline barbell agrees with me far more than flat
I’m not to big of a fan of flat bench, I do love an incline smith though, and any type of plate loaded hammer strength chest press. I am also a big cable guy as well when it comes to chest.
Weighted dips pal.
What ^^Khandum said. Maybe take a diet break, increase carbs a bit to refeed and restore glycogen, and then get back to the deficit. A general rule is that unless you are 10-12% body fat, you should cut.
There’s a lot missing from this and your other post. How many total calories are you consuming? What is the distribution of those calories? The usual 1g protein to 1lb body mass is helpful, but remember that is lean body mass, so if you are 250 lbs with 20% body fat, you should be aiming for 200g protein per day. Your carbs are your real lever since protein levels should stay pretty steady and consistent.
Don't try to completely cut out carbs. You still need carbs for energy and to survive basically. But try to focus on slow digesting carbs. Like oatmeal or brown rice, and try to eat more smaller meals rather than like 3 big meals a day. And for protein. You should try for like 75% of your body weight in grams of protein so let's say you weigh 100lbs try for at least 75g or 1g per 1 pound. And I forget if you said you were using hgh or not if you are take some kind of berberine based slin pill to keep your insulin resistance in range. Just don't take berberine on an empty stomach, take with a larger higher carb meal. And if it says 4 caps are a serving, start with only 1 cap a day. Be safe with anything that messes with bl00d sugar
I promise I have no intentions of cutting out carbs.
No keto for me.
I’ve read that you need a certain amount of carbs to activate insulin secretion from the pancreas.
I want to know if you still get good levels from complex carbs like you do from simple carbs.
What I thought a dirty bulk was,
Is simple carbs loosely counting
To just get secretion.
All my friends do the dirty bulk then cut. Winter to summer.
Winter is coming!
And so are hard times. Such as bulking with brown rice and eating fish every damn day!
I’ve lost weight. Too much muscle on this cut. But I intend to get it back and keep my body fat low.
I say I’m almost done. With the Reta 12% ain’t too far off. The fat has been melting so easy.
That I’m pre gaming (day dreaming) of the bulk.
Clean bulking is new to me. And all of this is gold. Thank you.