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+ 10 THE RECOVERY LOUNGE!....N/A, A/A, C/A, or any other Anonymous drug program!
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Rosser01The cravings do go away and even can become a distant memory, in the beginning you have to throw yourself into recovery with meetings, sponsor, drug free activities, until it becomes a way of life because that's what it needs to be is a way of life or it will never work, also when they say no relationships in the first year, you need to take that advice and run with it and don't look back. Anything that can get into your head and disrupt this new way of living can destroy you, relapse is not an option, it can't be, we like it to much and there can always be an excuse to pick up and use.
One last time can be just that..!! I'm almost ten years clean and I never felt better. I wouldn't trade it for anything. Just take the advice and run with it..!!
I agree with Robb and Roid below brother. Both have great insights.
I can assure you they will, provided you do the necessary work to get there. I'm at the same place as Roid when he mentions building a life so fulfilling that you would just never consider using as an option.
9+ years sober, many trials, tribulations, and triumphs in that time. But in reality it really is just one day at a time. Making the right decisions for the right reasons. Doing selfless things for others. Service work. Building self esteem. Learning to love yourself. Positive affirmations every morning and every night. Meditation. Lots of tools at your fingertips to utilize. Honesty, open mindedness, and willingness.
PM me anytime.
It's difficult and different for everyone. I personally feel no urge whatsoever, but have had a number of few month relapses. When I'm clean it rarely enters my head, it's the one last rodeo that I fall for, I'm not learning from my mistakes. Positive hobbies can help but if the underlying urge remains it's just a matter of time before one fucks up. Year's ago I'd drive straight past the gym and go score or finish up at the gym then go score, it's so dumb the things I used to do its unreal.
The availability of drugs doesn't help either, it's so fucking easy to get. Genuinely has me scratching my head cos in all the years of using there wasn't a single hour drought of heroin and crack whereas things like weed would dip and be in abundance again.
Don't think I'd of ever got clean and remained so if I was fighting a daily urge for whatever one's thing is, it must be like mental torture. I feel for the real afflicted, I'm not that strong I'd probably be another statistic by now.
my craving went away after about 2 1/2 years, but i would still fantasize about it on occasion, I remember sharing about it at 5 years clean, from 6 years on I have not had any sort of fantasy's or cravings. But I think everybody is different, and I can also say that I fix my addiction with various other things. First it was meetings and recovery, then eroids, then it was work, school, certifications, online forums about my line of work, now I just picked up a new hobby that has been a OCD crutch for the last two months, riding sport bikes at the track, learning the lingo and mods and yes another online forum. Today I was looking at a bowhunting magazine thinking thats something I would like to do since I cant have a gun.
I know my disease is very active, and if I dont find something for my mind to think about that im passionate about I will likely look for something else. I also pick stuff up much quicker than those around me, often obsessing during the day and dreaming about it at night. So my ADD keeps me busy...lol...
Alot of people will suggest that you get in touch with your God as he is the only one you will have sometimes in your fight against this disease. Make sure you are actively in meetings, daily meetings, working steps with a sponsor you call frequently, you have a support group and numbers to that support group that you actually call. Get into service, sometimes service will keep you clean when you got nothing else, its not the healthy kind of clean but if it works use it. Find some hobby that dont cost an arm and a leg, work on building relationships with family and loved ones. set yourself small goals and work toward achieving them. Say your prayers and ask him to remove the cravings daily. Stay away from anything that gives you triggers, especially shady characters and areas. Do not put yourself in a situation where you have nothing but time on your hands. And you may need to get away from the juice as it can play some factors in mental stability. Say positive affirmations, sounds weird but sometimes you need to hear it, most of us lift because we are not happy with ourselves as is. Hang around people that stay in the solution, people that are healthy. Volunteer somewhere if you have the time, itll make you feel much better about yourself, help you get out of yourself.
Truth is for me that i have built such a good life one goal at a time that I just would never consider going back, at some point I just had to much to loose. But everybody is different and youll need to find what it is that works for you.
Best of luck to you
I'm currently on Suboxone, which is trashing my T levels big time and one of the big reasons I'm here today. I was on 30mg of methadone per day legit prescribed by my doctor for nerve damage in my right thigh for 3 years but the nerves finally healed after the trauma and when it came time to come off of the methadone I couldn't physically or mentally do it. I never messed with any drugs or anything of the sort until I was put on methadone and only when it was time to start lowering my dose did I figure out that for the first time in my life that I have a drug problem. Now I'm on Suboxone and lowering my dose gradually, going to meetings (which are hard to find in my area and only meet twice a week) as well as going to therapy to sort my life out and make sure that once I can come off of the Suboxone that I don't go back to taking other painkillers. The Suboxone really helps out with those cravings and prevents me from ever feeling like I'm in withdrawals, but it's a powerful drug that I would be in BIG trouble if I ever had to go without it for more than 24-48 hours (I had one time where the pharmacy took 3 days to get my meds in and when I went to pick up my script I was in pretty serious WDs). With all of the therapy and the slow tapering of Suboxone I've managed to really get my life back together and become a functional member of society. Cheers to everybody who has been through that kind of hell and has stayed clean ever since, and to others who are still suffering I can understand the agony you're dealing with and I wish you the best of luck with getting the help you need.
the program is a trip, I had given up hope, let all my resentments go, figured it would always be this way, and after 7+ years of recovery my mom finally seen the attraction and came in to figure out how i was doing it. She picked up 30 days last month. I was blessed to be asked to give her her chip, I realized when i gave her a hug I dont think we have ever hugged before, or if so it has just been so long and so few I dont remember. First time I cried in recover, was some deep shit man.
nice!!!
thats awesome shit bro
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Ace VenturaThat's awesome
Wow! Thanks for sharing that. Congrats on your family. You never know what life will bring. Sometimes it's great.
That is awesome brother.
Just celebrated 19 months yesterday. Relapsed with 2 years but jumped back in head first. Now that I look at it. I didn't have recovery last time. I had clean time. Grateful.
Congratulations bro.. Like you say this time its recovery!
I had a slip up after months of being straight , don't know why either ? Because after I did it when I woke up I was like WTF did I do ? I realized it was stupid hopefully i can learn from it and think of this moment when or if temptation creeps back in
One day at a time bro. Take care of yourself.
Congrats all of you I recently relapsed and over 2 weeks almost fucked off all that I had turned around in almost three years, coming up on 60 days, it's good to know Your not alone out there. Struggled with opiates for almost 15 years lost the love of my life to a benzo opiate O.D. almost 3 years ago, and I picked back up afyer almiat 3 years I thought I had it beat but this shit is sneaky waiting for a moment of weakness
does anyone in recovery feel that if they are taking aas they are not truly clean? has anyoneone told there sponsor or friends in recovery about aas use?
I think it needs its own program....
good question.
I think people are not blind, if u use aas, it will not go unnoticed. (specially if you screw with PCT, and you get two sagging tits
Ace VenturaIt's such a personal decision. There was a point where I wasn't sure. Now I don't feel at all like I'm using. Btw I've been sober a lot longer than NoWeakAces
Lol, I love you. Let's swap fluids.
Ace VenturaDeal!
Sponsor and friends in recovery know I'm on gear. Sponsor doesn't like it. But he does concede that it's not making my life unmanageable and I'm not powerless over it. I'll celebrate 9 years sober in July.
That being said, if you're trying to convince your self that steroids aren't mind and mood altering, you're lying to your self.
Ar11xHey I was reading A lot of these post and I've had my own personal struggles with addiction. And I noticed a lot of ppl were on subs. I actually quit my dope habit by taking Kratom for 10 days and it helped so much so just thought I would throw that out there to help ppl if your trying to get off opiates or subs. If u have any questions hit me up. Now been clean for a while and it's a struggle at times but being swoll helps keep me clean
Hey mann just came across your
Post. I am on subs. I was on them for seven years. Got off them and then started taking adderall due to having no energy. I picked up kratom anfew weeks
Ago but read alot about it doing nothing if you are currently on suboxone. How did you taper off subs with the kratom. By the way i am back on subs after ehab for adderall, took subs from the street to feel better then went and got prescribed. Its just keeping me somewhat normal but still
Depressed and have no motivation. Just started a cycle of test cyp hoping that would make me motivated and feel better with diet and exercise but im on week 4 and notice nothing except i dread making myself go to the gym which is supposed to make you feel better but it doesn't do anything for me
Thanks for hearing me out
Recently celebrated 4 years clean. Was concerned about the use of pins(works) being a possible trigger but so far so good. I've not talked to anyone in my network about my new venture so I'm using youse guys to open up about this. Been a member here since the middle of December after just lookin' in for a few weeks. Made a comment or two in this forum but never about myself. Secrets keep me sick. Thanks for letting me share.
Congratulations bro 4 years sober that's something to be proud of..
Thanks. I've always said if they came up with a single dose pill that could cure addiction, I would take 2 to see what would happen. I believe I've been keeping my doses on cycle fairly low and gettin' good results but, if I'm gettin' good results with low doses, higher doses would be SO much better. I've stuck to my plan!
I was very wary of using pins too brother. Glad you're here. Keep sharing and keep your head up. I've ran three cycles in the last few years since I've started. Still 9 years sober from all other drugs and alcohol. Takes a lot of willpower but I do believe AAS can be used safely if you educate yourself and keep your health (mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual) your priority. Welcome.
Thanks Switch
thanks for sharing
Rick GrimesWhats up fellas? Been struggling with heroin for the past 10yrs. Im not here to tell my war stories but its brought me to places I never thought id be. Kidnapped, shot,stabbed, county,state,federal,&lets not forget about the good ole chain gang. Man they hate us Yankees in the dirty dirty. Im currently on subs and planning to taper off. Im not knocking anyone who is on it but I dont consider myself clean due to the fact that im still putting a substance in my body for an effect. At my point in my life it bests sticking a needle in my neck. Ya I ran out of viens at the old age of 34. Ive had clean time on the street.4yrs at one time until my mother died in my arms of cancer. I picked up the next day cuz,I dint have coping skills and it just made things worse. Im a member of the fellowship now but dont speak cuz im on subs&thats my choice. It can be done. U get over the sickness. Get to a meeting get connected. Ur higer power can be ur family ur kids. Whatever u think makes the tides turn. Im Rick Grimes signing off for now. Hmu if anyone needs to talk. Dueces.
7 month sober. Year and half round program. Glad to be here
Glad your here patrickpump. Keep trudging
I can dig it
has anyone ever taken subs while on test. currently im on subs because the alternative was not being able to stop the other shit. Has anyone had problems with libido while on subs? Does it make a test cycle less productive?
subs and all other opiates really mess with ur endo system bro.... They give great workouts at first, b/c of that energy rush and pain killing effect, BUT its a never ending and viscous cycle.
Try weening/tapering off the subs at a slow but steady rate.
Ex: lets say youre taking 8 mg/day right now... do 7 mg/day for 3 days, 6 mg/day for three days, 5 mg/day for 3 days.....etc etc. All the way down to where ur just taking like 1 mg. per day.
I promise, your gains will be better without em. I have also found that living the 'bodybuilding' lifestyle, making gains, eating clean, being a more 'productive' member of society, getting girls, etc. greatly exceeds any ''high'' that an illicit drug can produce! hope this helps man!
This month it was 12 years, since i quit my heroin addiction. I've had a drug therapy instead the rest of my prison term. After that I've never had any meetings, never prayed to any gods. In summer it will be 12 years being with my wife and daughter and THEY gave me the strength to stay almost clean. I say almost, cause twice a year i take some uppers, when going to the clubs. This is my compensation, to stay clean and for my life with family and honest work, which I've never known before I've quit my drugaddiction. This works fine for me and i don't wanna know where i would be today, if i hadn't met my family....
All the best wishes for you guys, stay straight 'n' strong.
Hope your wife dont leave or something happen to them. Youve got a HUGE reservation right there, and no recovery foundation. Im sure it seems fine right now, and hey it might always be that way, but ive sat with many men that have lost their wives and children before themselves. Ive seen many of them stay clean and a few that lost the battle and went back out. Had a lady speak a few months ago, picking up 10 years clean after having 12 years prior. Her daughter started using, and she went back out to try and save her and keep her safe. 13 years later she picks up 10 and her daughter picked up 1.
Goodluck
There is a guy just posted up top, used after his mom died in his arms, just saying family is a great motivator to get clean, but they can not keep you clean.
Thx brother, for your words. We have had really bad times the last years. My wife had breast cancer with chemotherapy. It was a hard way, but she is cancer free since 4 years. some probs with our daughter, she had the wrong friends and made some bullshit. But we made it through and shes a real good teenage girl again, which i am very proud of. Few week before christmas 2015 the docs told me, that i have got testicular cancer. Left ball was amputated. But hey, we have made it through all these bullshits and i am still going my way....
yes my friend, life shows up....keep fighting the good fight!
Believe me brother, i do. Each day i stand up and think:
FUCK YOU FORTUNE, I'M FAR FROM FINISHED!!!!
Hey yall,im,David & a recovering addict my doc was opiates
Welcome bro
hey David, welcome to recovery lounge
so its been a little over 3 weeks and no pain killers, I was on them for about 9 months hard..but I find its harder and harder to stay away. I find that parts of me start hurting that honestly prob don't hurt and its my head telling me its pain to get me to use again. anyone else experience this ? is it normal to have this type of feeling ?
Percs
morphine
fentanyl
robaxin
What's helped me more than anything is helping someone else. Don't have to be with getting sober but help someone do something. Show the kid at the gym how to sat properly lol.
It's normal. And probably won't go away anytime soon. You just need to know what you want more , a slave to the pp or freedom from the pp.
I've been opiate addict since i was 17 or so and have been clean ( with a few slips here and there ) for 5 years.They're a real mind fuck trying to get off, your mind will play tricks on you but the withdrawl symptoms are extremely " physical ."
With some of those meds you listed i assume you were on pain management?