posted Fri, 11/01/2013 - 03:24
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Guys i found this great article about AI's that i wanted ti immediately share. I believe that the information is critical to your body please take a read.
www.musculardevelopment.com/articles/chemical-enhancement/2290-the-downs...
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Just finishing up a cycle with no ai. Using proviron and masteron to hold the estrogen at bay. What I like is this combo has kept my estrogen much more level. Seems like the adex would crash my estrogen and then it would build back up, only to be crashed again. This was a roller coaster ride I didn't want to be on. No lumps no itch no soreness and I believe my gains are better due to the absence of e3d crash that came with the ai. Now I wouldn't recommend doing this without having ai's on hand in case of problems, but this may be a better way to go. I am going to look into using a smaller dose of proviron and masteron when I return to my TRT dose in 2 weeks.
Thanks for dropping some knowledge I appreciate that. Im not knocking anything that you do believe me thats out of my character but I dont mess with those 17aas due to those being able to cause MPB. I took some dbol for two weeks asni had to try it and the gyno flared up. I stick with the 19 nor duento it having less DHT effects which I feel personally is the way too go. Im not going to be winning any bodybuilding contests anytime soon. Im also on TRT and doc prescribed me Axiron, what you taking. But yes I have researched and Im aware of the benefits of Masteron. I love that name of the Master but its not up my alley at this present day, maybe in the future I will consider your P&M addition. Thanks big guy you surely do have some nice muscle maturity working for yourself stay bigrigger
+1 for that great response MM. Estrogen control is more an art than a science. Everyone is different. Seems like I've had more trouble dialling it in on the TRT dose than full blown cycles. By the way I'm talking test e 250 per week split for my TRT. Might just try proviron only when I get to TRT in 2 weeks. I am going to post an update on my no ai cycle in the next day or two, so have a look as most of the serious vets have been keeping an eye on me with this protocol. They have been a wealth of info to me and others!
I'm all for this experimenting, as you say everyone is different, simply because we all have different amounts of the enzyme aromatse.
When i'm on TRT (off cycle) i use 250mg of test cyp E10D i take 0.5mg of adex approx 48hrs after my injection, this is when my peak occurs. Iv'e found that since doing this my libido is stable for the full off cycle period.
Just a little snippet below for the guys who think that an AI isn't neccesary (it may not be but until you gain experience from different cycles you wont know) so here's a few of the problems associated with excess estrogen.
*It can affect your libido and sexual function.
*It causes fatigue (ask anyone if they have experienced so called test flu on the first cycles, 90% of the time this is due to the huge increase in estrogen).
*It raises TBG, this causes bloat and puts a strain on your kidneys.
*It raises SHBG, this leaves less free test for you to grow.
*It is also a causative factor in enlarged prostate, do you really need this when exogenous test converting to DHT is also another causative factor in BPH.
*It also causes gyno as i'm sure most people know.
*It's extremely suppresive to HPTA function(200x moreso than test) and will inhibit your recovery post cycle.
+1 another great response. It's rather odd that the symptoms of too much estrogen and too little estrogen are almost the same. Maybe no bloat and no gyno and throw in sore joints but all the others are there!
mh001All it really says is to avoid estrogen shutdown because it's bad for you.