Cutting advice
Hello everyone, so I have started my cutting cycle about 4 weeks ago and up into last week I was losing around 2 pounds a week on 1850 calories. On the third week I plateaued staying the same weight and today’s weigh in was 1 pound loss but I did lower calories to 1750 and upped the cardio to 25 mins from 20.
3 weeks ago I did start my protocol
150 test e twice a week = 300weekly
On week 5, so next week I will be doing 25mg of anavar ED
Week 6 I will move up to 50mg of anavar into end of cycle total of 6 weeks on anavar.
Just wondering is it normal for body weight to plateau, or even increase on a cut? I figured that the extra testosterone might put on some weight considering I was only doing 50 mg a week before my cycle. 50mg is my cruising dose I guess you can say.
I guess little bit of background of me I’ve never done a serious cut, I do seem to be getting leaner, even when my weight stays the same.
Just looking for a little advice Because I don’t wanna keep dropping the calories, but I will if I have to but someone also told me I might just need to do a re-feed day, which I really don’t want to do.
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Calories way to low and way to soon. Body has already entered startvation mode. Will be very difficult to lose any more fat without a refeed.
https://www.eroids.com/forums/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/struct...
https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner/diet/your-first-cutting-diet
I did a re feed on Saturday and Sunday and was going to go back to 1800 cals today. Thank you for the links I was having a hard time finding them after rusty @ed ur name.
But maybe 1800 is too low, I was hoping to be more cut by the may 20th currently at 187lb was hoping to see 170 by then. Do you think that’s doable?
Doable, probabaly, but you will lose alot of muscle mass trying to cut that much that quickly, which will ruin your metabolism and make it much easier to gain fat once you stop dieting.
Doesn’t seem like a good idea when you put it like that lol would you suggest if my resting cal are around 2500 to cut around 2000 I just don’t think I will get lean enough.
You can't cheat mother nature. The body has natural defense mechanisms to spare fat if it notices an extreme drop in calories. Slow and steady is the name of the game when trying to lose fat and save muscle. No way of getting around it. Losing weight is easy, just don't eat. Losing fat and keeping muscle is harder. I would try this
https://www.eroids.com/forums/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/the-fa...
Sounds good I mean after reading all of that I’m getting that I shouldn’t push myself to the point of messing up the muscle I have gained just because I go on vacation in may. I think I will reassess my plan and kinda start over with higher cals and take it more slow and just be happy with where I by may, summer is not even started really in May so I got time. I should maybe look at getting a coach but idk we’re to look lol thank you for all the links and all the help.
RustyhookerPlateau yes. Some refeed carbs then go again. @Makwa is guru on foods with forums.
I like anaerobic cardio 30mins time after gym
Thank you, so you think two days of a re feed at 2500 cal will be good enough? Then back to cutting on Monday.
I am going to be switching my cardio up to the stairs master for 30 mins
You want to be 1K+ cals above your TDEE for a refeed. 1.5K would be better. Running at maintenance cals won't do much and you will be right back where you are now. Sometimes to lose weight we actually have to eat first.
RustyhookerI did a 1 day refeed with complex carbs but im not solid cut either. Makwas forums lay it out by food and calories. Click on his name above....read his forums. Hes ripped solid and competes. Anaerobic is different that aerobic. You burn carbs lifting weights so when youre wiped out then anaerobic forces fat burn. Aerobic is great for heart and stamina
Yes, it's pretty common to plateau. There's various other threads about this. Bodies are weird. Everyone is different. It basically come down to your body goes into survival mode. So it works harder to keep on body fat if calories are too low. You might have to bring them up. It's even harder the older we are. It doesn't make sense but like I said, the body is weird. What your diet is like affects this as well. Obviously protein is key, but how much of calories are carbs? Fats? are you still eating like shit? So many factors here.
I’m 31
No matter what my calorie are at I get 200g of protein, carbs and fat just vary. I also eat very clean no junk when I’m cutting. I really appreciate the advice, I think my body may need a break like every is saying, so my plan now is to bring my cals up to 2500 for the next 2 days then bring them down to like 1800 and do carbs pre and post workout.
Body are weird I don’t think you could have made a better description than that lol. I also need to stop trying to rush the process. Let me know what you think
Yeah man, the metabolism slows down once calories hit too low. It's like nope, I don't know when we'll get enough again so I wont burn so many calories. It's just science that's beyond me lol
You got it though. Refeed for a bit get the metabolism going again. Just lower in smaller increments. It takes some time. You'll start losing again in no time. Try to browse around different threads. I don't know the links but there's users here who break it down very detailed.
Sounds like a plan thanks for the help, also just eating at maintenance today. I’m feeling a lot better so I’ll keep that going into Sunday the drop back down Monday and reassess next Saturday. I’ll also be browsing here tonight to see what I can find another thread.
Ya, its hard because everyone is different and none of us have worked with you personally, so some advice might greatly benefit you and some good push on the other direction. But i would say your going too low with the calories and would need to re-feed or maybe even up the calories for a few days and then drop again but not so low. if you just refeed for a day you'll plateau again soon because your body thinks your starving it and it could even start holding on to fat so you could even technically see your weight increase. Id "cheat" for a day or two and then stay closer to 2000 and maybe up cardio a little. Do you know what your maintenance calories are? You see this alot with young girls who think there "fat" and will only eat at night or when no ones around and they gain weight instead of losing because the body feels like there starving it so it wants to keep everything it can to stay alive instead of burning it. Basically your metabolism is getting slower and slower every day that your calories are that low.
Thank you for the advice also umm I am a male lol and my maintenance calories are around 2600. I think I’m gonna go ahead and eat at maintenance for a day or two and then I’ll drop it back down.
LOL i knew you are male I just meant that's where this happens alot is with young girls who are self-conscious and just don't eat at all and the gorge at night LoL but Ya if you 2600 for like two days and then id try maybe 2200 as my goal after that and just see how its going for like 10 days. and if you're losing even a little bit that's good because you'll probably feel better, it'll be easier to maintain that for longer and you'll have room to decrease more when you plateau again. if you drop too low right away when you plateau you have nowhere to go because you can't just go infinitely low calories. IMO 1800 is a massive deficit even after the refeed
Not sure of your body stats. ( weight, height, bf) but I would start off by saying you’re going to have a hard time cutting and continuing results with food that low already from the get go. Hard to take away food when there is none to take away. I would suggest not taking the food away and continuing to elevate your cardio (you are only at 25 min) and steps for the day, and possibly even adding the food back because your going to be in a bind at the end of 12-16 weeks. If you’re worried about carbs center them before and directly after your workout to drive performance. But I would def say you’re going to stall out as you already have because your body is screaming to slow metabolism down because you’re starving your self so bad. It’s like the girls on the treadmill who look soft even though they only eat 1 time a day and run for 2 hours.
Thanks for the advice currently at 5f 9 187 lbs. my cut started at 2000 cals and was going well into 4 weeks in. Maybe I’ll had some carbs back in and see what happens.