posted Sun, 04/16/2023 - 04:10
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Blood pressure (Anavar?)
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Hello everyone,
I am 6 weeks into my cycle and my BP is 173 over 99 which is kinda high.
Current cycle is..
300 test e per week (1 to 10)
Anavar 50mg ED (3 to 10)
Iv done previous cycle of 600 test a week and my BP was never this high.
I was thinking about adding in some aspirin daily but wanted to see what everyone’s thoughts are…. I kinda think it’s var related but idk. I do my value health so I’m not opposed to dropping the var “if needed”.
I did get blood before this cycle and everything look amazing I guess I can share if needed again just looking for opinions and maybe someone that has been through something similar so that I can make an educated decision.
Thanks to everyone
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Rustyhooker7 weeks of var alone....i bet your cholesterol is pre-death levels.
Bf? Bp issues? Tons of salt...bad diet? That bp is hospitsl worthy...pre stroke level.
Proper cuff size??
So I feel like an idiot…. So after my wife looked at the instructions this morning I was using the cuff wrong and it was 131 over 95 this morning soo better not great but better. Just happy it’s not the 173 over 99
RustyhookerNot an idiot.....genius that you double checked! I go to drs and 5ft 4...they toss on cuff and freak out im still alive. Put on proper cuff for big arms....whew! And thats med professionals.
applause welcome to eroids
Well thank you, I am just happy it’s 131 over 95 now lol I just scheduled a blood donation for today because I’m guessing it won’t hurt but I never donated blood before so I guess It should be fun.
Really you need to get bloodwork done to see if you need to even do a donation, otherwise all that will happen is you will donate and then your bone marrow will make more blood quickly to replace what it has lost and possibly make the problem worse by overcompensating and producing more than you need - that is often what happens when people donate. Its a very temporary measure at reducing blood pressure.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^ ive posted blood test spots with links. Keeps life simple and cheaper.
Soo I don’t wanna sounds dumb but I can schedule blood work no problem but what would I get checked because I usually do blood work pre and post … I did just talk to my old coach and he told me to dumb blood asap so tomorrow. I also don’t want that bone marrow thing to happen I didn’t even know that was a thing lol
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/blood-testing-resourc...
^^^Informative write up and various places for bloods^^^
Thank you for the link, I currently use number one on that list. I guess what I was asking is if I would to get blood work instead of donating what blood work should I get, typically I get the full bodybuilding panel for &150 but not sure what to get if this is all around my blood work. Or is donating they way to go?
Thanks for everything btw
I doubt it’s the drugs unless your anavar isn’t really anavar. After saying that, I’ll throw a free lesson your way lol, those aren’t trip to the ER numbers, but they’re very concerning. What you need to keep in mind is long term vascular health. With numbers that high your blood vessels are basically being stretched, and they more than likely can handle that. However they don’t unstretch, so when your BP gets back to reasonable numbers your blood vessels will be on the “floppy” side. Then if you have high cholesterol, thick blood, etc… things tend to get stuck and create blockages. This of course doesn’t happen in a week, but it does happen. You’re going to want to get this under control friend.
Omg reading floppy for vessel made me feel gross lol but ya don’t want that but I don’t like it being that high either so most likely ending the cycle
It kinda sucks, I don’t like to be the bearer of bad news, but steroids now or 1950s good living, parameters have changed. Get yourself around 130/85. That’s absolutely ok, you’re running way too high bro, it’s not your monitor, it’s your body. Not being gay, but it’d be cool to see you stick around for a while. Your numbers are concerning bro, seriously.
So this morning my wife took my BP and we found out that I was using my cuff incorrectly I’m happy to say my blood pressure came in at 131/95 this morning. Still not great but it’s way better than 173/99
You should go donate blood Asap
Also I have never donated blood lol I hate blood work so idk how that would go
You think? I have never done that on cycle before
Bloodwork would be best, but a donation is like a band aid until you get a chance to get proper bloodwork done.
That diastolic number is still a little concerning - I would normally expect to see 80 to 85 with a systolic of 131.
I agree I was going to take it for the next few days to see what it looks like but still thinking about stopping just unsure
For you to get a reading that high something seems amiss here - Either it was a one off bad reading which does happen, or maybe something is wrong with your BP without gear. 173/99 is not normal for 300mg Test and 50 Var. I would say stay on the Test and get a reading for just that without the var. Take about 6 readings and use the average value. Do you use an upper arm or wrist cuff machine? Upper arm are much more accurate as to where you really are, I have both and the wrist version often reads low.
If you are regularly reading more than 140/85 on gear then you need to start looking at BP meds I'm afraid whilst on cycle - Telmisartan is a good one for BBer's as it also protects the kidneys.
@Pumped_ Just out of interest bud, is there any particular reason why you have negged this comment? What have I said that you disagree with?
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No worries mate, I just thought I had upset you in some way!
Not at all. You are one of few that makes sense on this site
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Honestly, was thinking the exact same thing I use an upper arm cuff it’s digital, and it is kind of all over the place sometimes. I think last week around Wednesday I was at like 140/70-ish. I did speak to the wifey and she said to keep taking my cycle and get some readings to get a larger data set to average it out just like you said. I am taking liver support and fish oil so I have all of that covered as well and I started aspirin today.
Make sure when you take the reading you have been sat down for 10 minutes not moving around. Sit nice and relaxed and do not talk. Also make sure any food or drink was 15 minutes prior and not recently. Not too hot, not just finished training, not just finished shagging.
There are loads of sources that sell Telmisartan and its cheap, 20 to 40mg per day should be all you need to bring it down to safe levels if you need it. Take that ED rather than aspirin, aspirin is bad for you and not a good thing to be taking every day of a cycle unless you are in bad pain of some kind - even then I would take paracetamol over aspirin any day.
Just so you know bud pain meds also raise your BP readings, I can take Ibuprofen and be 10 points higher 30 minutes later, same with paracetamol.
When my pressure was 185/93ish from EQ i should have stopped taking but i am the stubborn type so i took Cialis 5mg/day and my blood pressure dropped to 140s/70s. Went to my annual physical and doctor said i was the healthiest patient she had all month.
TricepatopsNot saying you are lying but no way Cialis dropped you BP that much. Most BP meds wouldn't do that within a day and you would need to be on a high dose. A study showed that 20mgs of Cialis dropped systolic around 5 and diastolic around 4. Could have been a multitude of things but Cialis couldn't have been the reason it dropped that much.
Not trying to be a dick about it at all so apologize if it comes across this way just don't want you to think if you have a reading that high again popping a Cialis won't drop it like you think. Just looking out for ya.
Studies said mask stop covid. Studies said take the vaccine and you wont get covid. Trust the Science? Nah im good. Different if you said you tried cialis but it didnt do shit for your blood pressure but "studies say" make me as skeptical as you.
And you are telling me im lying even though your saying you're not telling me im lying lol. Why the heck would i lie about some stupid shit like blood pressure? To sound cool to Sprinkles?!
TricepatopsNo but there has to be another reason. Cialis as a medication doesn't drop BP like that. Did it drop for you yes but in my medical opinion there is no way Cialis caused a 45 point decrease in systolic BP and almost 25 points in diastolic. It could have been other factors. If it dropped it 10 points then yes but Cialis doesn't drop BP like that. I can link you a study where the average drop in BP at 20mgs was around 4.8mgs for systolic. And 2.7 or some number like that for diastolic.
I might not be exact thats why i said ish but didnt take anything else but brush my teeth that week. Unless its flouride i cant explain but works every year for me and 5mg/day dont hurt me so i dont see any other reason to go in with high blood pressure and set the doctor off. I dont know how else to explain it. So im just got to do what i know.
I start taking a week before my appointment. DIDNT THINK I NEEDED TO MENTION THAT BUT SORRY I DIDNT. Works for me. Did 3 years in a row without taking any other substance to lower BP. I have a nurse on a stick in my office and i monitor all the time. You could be right, maybe just the paranoia of seeing her with that blood pressure makes it go down but im still sticking to cialis. Bet you didn't know cialis was created for blood pressure originally until they saw the other effects. Not saying it works for you but works for me. To hell with the rest of ya i only care what work for my blood pressure. Sorry your body dont respond like mine. Perfect example that whats good for the goose aint good for the gander. Do you really believe studies over real life experiences? Half them studies are done on animals or people with real BP problems. Mine is steroid related only not chronic high blood pressure.
TricepatopsI take Cialis almost everyday around 5mgs for the slight decrease in BP, the extra vasodilation and for lower the chances of getting BPH. But those results are great for even a medicine made to lower Blood Pressure. All I am saying is it could have been time of day, the way you took it, were your legs crossed, where you talking while getting the reading were your feet in the floor flat footed. There are so many factors and maybe it was an error in the one reading and as long as you don't have reading that high anymore then you should be fine. That is why I mentioned the eye test as a good way to see if your high BP from AAS has caused damage to your body. Just trying to look out for you. Nothing personal from me at all. Now this is a suggestion and it is what I do when I go into my yearly physical I make sure I am only on my TRT for about 2 plus months or longer and off everything else. I want to see where my health is off everything to see if any permanent damage is done and also to see if it is ok to jump onto the next cycle. If I went on cycle I won't know what is real and what is from the AAS. The goal for all of us should be to do this in the healthiest way possible but also to live just as long as possible. The guys now days who died looked in great shape but there insides were a mess and couldn't take it anymore and when they cycle almost year round they don't know what the bloods mean if they are always on cycle.
One time i went i to a pharmacy they where doing reading free and they where bored asked me i said sure it. He looked at me and said wow lets check this again. I said why he said cause if it comes out like this again protocol is to call an ambulance i said fuck you and got up
It was 9 am registered at 181. Eq & tren cycle. I said i cant go to the hospital i have a bbq i have to attend to
TricepatopsOne thing that can tell if you have had any problems from high blood pressure is getting eyes dilated and looked at by a eye doctor. They will have some damage to them. It was interesting thing I found out about 10 years ago when I got it done.
Doctor did that to me too when my BP was high, turned all the lights out in the room so it was pitch black then shone his torch in my eyes and asked me to look in various directions. They can see through your eyeball or something can't they to see if its been affected, an old technique from decades back!
Bud I've seen some insane levels on Tren cycles too, big Test and Dbol. You see it and think WTF!!?? Doesn't look real. Its one of the main ways Tren buggers kidneys up, together with the toxicity of the compound.
Yeah i dont even want to know what my doctor would do so once a year before physical i start week before on the cialis regimen
I sadly don’t have any Cialis currently, but I was gonna start taking aspirin like I stated, but I think it’s best that I just stop the cycle altogether
TricepatopsYou don't need aspirin and cialis won't help lower BO by more then a few points. If you really have high BP go to the doctor or cardiologist and get it sorted out better to be safe then sorry.
Im not telling him to do what i did. I thought we just sharing stories. His body aint mine. Do not try what i do. What works for me might not work for you.
TricepatopsI know but some people don't take BP serious and if they don't have any signs or symptoms then they don't think there is anything wrong. I see it alot in my work where people didn't even know they had high BP and they are told that after a MI or stroke and they tell me I never had any signs of symptoms and felt fine most of the time. But Cialis can help if you have slightly high BP and need to lower it a few points and some it my work better for them others.
You are right. It is a more serious subject and i should be more serious about it then manipulating it before a physical. And the way i posted my story kinda makes it sound less serious. I apologize. It is a serious subject.
Just keep that in mind. A daily regimen helps BP and you get the bonus results ----