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Once again, there are many ways to skin a cat when it comes to putting together a diet to get lean and ripped. That could be one of the reasons why it can actually become quite confusing when deciding how to diet to get cut (you are hearing a 100 different ways from a hundred different people). What I am going to do here is lay out a procedure for you to follow to get that ripped body you have been dreaming about. Summer is right around the corner so there is no better time to do a cut than right now. The procedure for putting together your cutting diet is so easy that even a caveman and we meatheads can follow it. No excuses now about complaining you don’t know how to put together a cutting diet.

This may seem like a simple approach and you may be wondering “is this really going to work?” Yes it is. This will even work for putting together a contest prep diet to get down to uber-low body fat. But for like any diet, you need to track your macros and calories!” If you are too lazy to do that you are never going to achieve the body you desire. Here is link to the calorie/macro tracker that I use on a daily basis. It is so easy to use that there is no reason for you not to do it. If you are not going to track your calories/macros, there is no point in reading this post any further because you will fail with your cutting diet. So let that sink in for a moment while you check out the tracker.

https://www.myfitnesspal.com/

Starvation mode?

Doesn’t even sound good, does it.
There is a huge point you need to keep in mind when starting any diet. What you don’t want to do when starting any diet is to drop your carbs and/or calories to severely right from the get go. You will lose some weight right away but you will also plateau quickly and will have a hell of time trying to lose any additional fat. You have probably heard this term before starvation mode and that is the reason why you don’t want to drop either of them too drastically right away. Basically, what starvation mode boils down to is the bodies attempt to preserve its fat stores. Your body does not like being lean. Lean muscle is a liability to the body because it requires energy to maintain it. Your body does like fat, because it is a source of energy to help keep you alive, so the body will do whatever it can to hold on to that fat. Starvation mode slows down your metabolic rate so you don’t burn through your fat stores at a rapid pace, which is exactly what we are not trying to do. The more you cut carbs/calories at the start of your diet, the quicker that starvation mode will set in and make future fat loss a tough effort. So let’s put off going into starvation mode for as long as we can.

Why is this diet going to work for me?

Fat loss needs to be a gradual and continual process and if you put your body into starvation mode right away you are going to hit a plateau in your fat loss and it will become difficult to lose additional fat. This cutting diet is going to avoid that for as long as possible. This will be accomplished by gradually reducing your caloric intake little bits at a time. In essence, you want to start your cutting diet by eating as many calories you can get away with from the start but still are losing weight. Starting your diet out this way leaves you with plenty of wiggle room to keep lowering your calories along the way as your metabolic rate drops and you are hitting fat loss plateaus. Now on to the good stuff you have been waiting for. How do I start my cutting diet?

Where do I start?

The starting point I am going to explain here is basically for someone who has never really put together a successful cutting diet and is confused about how to start the process? I am sure it is also going to be useful for dieting veterans also, so it is worth a read if that is you.

The first thing you need to do is pretty simple, you need to analyze the current way that you eat. This is where tracking what you eat is essential. This process should only take about a week. For that week, just log everything you eat. If you can’t do it for a week, do it for as many days as you can. Obviously the longer you can do it the better assessment of your current diet you will have. I should also mention that a food scale is essential here also. Weigh out that chicken breast or steak you threw on the grill. How are you going to know the calories and macros if you don’t weigh it? Measure your liquids also. If you can’t measure stuff out for some odd reason, well I guess you can make your best guestimate, but that is not the ideal way to go about it. You aren’t going to get ultra-shredded either if you don’t weigh and measure stuff out. Just because you are tracking stuff for this week, doesn’t mean you should avoid foods that you normally eat, like donuts or whatever junk you may be eating. You need to get a true assessment of your current diet so eat like you normally do, junk food and all. Not following this principle for this week can actually hurt your fat loss efforts.

Now that you have that first week recorded, it is time to do some math. It is easy math, I promise. You want to calculate your average daily caloric intake along with the daily averages for protein, carbs and fat. The nice thing about the app I linked to above is that it will give you a weekly total also for all of those items we need. So just divide the weekly totals by 7 and you are done. Simple, wasn’t it?

Now take that avg. daily caloric intake you just calculated and divide it by your current bodyweight (in lbs). This is going to give you the average calories you eat relative to your current bodyweight so you know where you are starting at. For demonstration purposes and to help keep the math simple again, let’s assume you weighed 200 lbs and were putting down 4,000 cals. You are currently consuming 20cals/lb bodyweight. Calculate your number and keep for reference.

Next Step: Figure out your macros and calories for your new diet.

Protein:

Now we are getting into the meat of the diet. One of the most import macros for anybody lifting weights is protein. I am not going to discuss why in this post (since you should already know why), but suffice to say that you should be putting down at least 2g of protein per pound of bodyweight each and every day. Once again, for our 200lb guy that means 400g of protein/day. Now each gram of protein contains 4 calories/g and you need 2g/lb, which equates to 8 calories per pound of body weight. No matter what your weight you will be consuming 8 calories of protein per pound of bodyweight during this diet.

Fat

Your fat consumption should be around 0.5g of fat per lb of bodyweight. Since fat contains about 9 calories/gram, that means you will be eating around 4.5 calories/lb of bodyweight. For our 200lb guy again that equates to 900 calories coming from fat. Once again, no matter what your weight you will be consuming 4.5 calories of fat per pound of bodyweight during this diet.

Carbohydrates

This is our variable that will be adjusted throughout our diet to achieve our fat loss goals. So what is left over from the protein and fat consumption is what you should start out with for your initial carbohydrate macro consumption. Let’s run the numbers for our 200 lb example:

Protein: 8 cals/lb (1600 cals)
Fat: 4.5 cals/lb (900 cals)

The protein and fat equates to 12.5 calories/lb of bodyweight. In our example above, this person was consuming 20cals/lb of bodyweight. So subtract the protein and fat from that and you are left with 7.5 calories of carbohydrates/lb of bodyweight. There are 4 calories/gram of carbs, so what this results in is our example bodybuilder should be eating around 1.875g of carbs/lb of bodyweight (1500 calories).

Putting it all together

Now run through the numbers and see where you are at for your macros. Hopefully you can follow the example. Start by adjusting your protein and fat to the recommended numbers 2g/lb and 0.5g/lb respectively and see where you are sitting with your carbs. If your carbs are significantly above 2g/lb of bodyweight, knock off 0.25g/lb of where they are currently sitting and start from there. Now you know what all your macros should be for starting out your diet.

Run your diet using these macro ratios for as long as you are seeing fat loss results. The scale is not an indicator of fat loss. A skinfold caliper and scale are. So invest in a $10 caliper to track your fat loss.

I’ve hit a plateau, now what?

Once you hit a plateau in your fat loss, it is time to adjust carbs. Keep your protein and fat intake where they are at. I consider a plateau to be no fat loss over the period of a week. Take the amount of carbs you are eating and drop that amount by 0.25g/lb of bodyweight. If you weigh 200 lbs, this about a 200 cal drop. So if you started out at 2g/lb, you would now be down to 1.75g/lb of bodyweight for your carbs for upcoming week. Keep dropping by 0.25g/lb each time you hit a plateau. Once you get down to a low of 0.25g of carbs/lb of bodyweight, that is about as low as you can go. Most of you will never need to get down to that low of carbs unless you are planning on stepping on stage. A lot of it will depend on what your initial carb amount was at the start and how your body responds to this diet and your training and cardio.

Cheat Day: Yes or No?

If you have been following your diet religiously and your carbs have dropped down to a low of 0.5g/lb of bodyweight, I would say go ahead and have a cheat day or more like a cheat meal once a week. No cheating if planning on going on the stage. You can drop your protein and fats a little bit on this day to account for the extra carbs to keep your total calories about the same. The most carbs you should be consuming on this day should be no more than 2g/lb of bodyweight. These carbs should still be low-glycemic index carbs, (oatmeal, sweet potatoes, and whole wheat breads/pastas). Donuts, pizza, ice-cream, etc. are still off the table.

Further suggestions/tips

Fasted cardio is going to be your best friend while trying to burn fat. Your glucose (carbohydrate) levels are pretty much depleted in a fasted state so your next source of energy is your fat stores. So don’t go eating a big breakfast and go do your cardio later in the day. You’ll be burning less fat and more of the carbs you just ate which is defeating the whole purpose here. Whenever in a fasted state, you should be consuming BCAA’s to help spare your muscle tissue. Put down at least 10g pre-cardio and additional while doing cardio. The next best time to do some cardio would be after your workout. Your muscles should be depleted of glucose from your weight training so you should preferentially be burning fat again. This may hamper your muscle gains but don’t expect to be putting on much muscle or setting personal bests in the gym while cutting.

If you are losing more than a couple of pounds a week, you may be dropping alot of muscle mass along with fat. You dont't want to do that because that is also slowing down your metabolism and fat burning ability. This is where the calipers come in handy, It will let you know exactly how much fat/muscle you are losing each week. If you are losing just as much muscle as fat each week, bump your cals back up a bit until most of what you are losing is fat. You are going to lose some muscle during a cut so our goal here is to mimizie that amount by as much as possible. Usuallly about 1.5lbs of weight loss a week is a good rate to shoot for to minimize muscle loss. Obviously, if you start at a fairly high BF% you can expect to lose more than 1.5lbs/wk without much muscle loss. Just watch it when you get around that 12% or less mark to make sure what you are losing is predominantly fat.

Hopefully the math wasn’t too confusing, but if so shoot me a pm and we can work through it to tailor your perfect cutting diet.

Saint gannett's picture

So, after following this plan for a month, down 2kg and 1" on the waist line/belly with only one carb drop. I even took a four day rest period with unrestricted diet outside of being healthy foods at appropriate times, but things like 1-lb burgers, and still down 2kg.

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Makwa's picture

Good

Saint gannett's picture

For two weeks I have maintained spot on 90kg with stability and no gain in stomach, also no fat burners throughout the two weeks. So, starting Sunday, just taking skim milk (1.3 litres daily) out of the diet: (2x slimfast shakes and make protein drinks with water also removing prune juice: )

Old Diet: Cal: 2974 Fat: 106g Carbs: 226g Fiber: 33g Protein: 260g
New Diet: Cal: 2604 Fat: 103g Carbs: 166g Fiber: 26g Protein: 233g

Have tried the missus twice on callipers and the 7-point fold method, came out 6.7%, which is clearly not correct, even at 54-years, but if we still double it, I am better than 13%, which is a very reasonable target. 10-lb weight loss should put me will inside single digit body fat. This plan should take me there pretty easily.

A whopping double protein drink at bedtime would add 48g daily, but 232 calories too. Not so sure about that one?

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Saint gannett's picture

I am at 90kg body weight and need to lose 5% BF to achieve below 10% so setting target weight as 187lbs as 85KG or 6% BF loss.

I have been keto for six months now to achieve a loss of 15kg actual weight loss, and just this week lost more than desired, so have upped calorie intake, but by this standard (which I believe in) I am deficient by a lot of macros. So, 274g P daily or 1096 Calories.
Next: Fat 94g or 846 calories. Finally, Carbs - because I have been keto for six months, they have been 20g - 50g daily and I just jumped them to 99g this week, which has stopped weight loss... it seems a good balance.

I am thinking, right now, up the protein from my current 207g to 274g - a pretty easy goal, more chicken/tuna/white fish
Leaves the following:
Protein: 1096 Cal. 274g
Fat: 846 Cal. 94g
Carbs: 400 Cal. 100g
Total Daily Calories: 2342

I am currently maintaining on this level, less 74g protein, so adding that should be pretty easy and safe. I have three weeks to see how my body reacts to this diet before I actually start my cutting cycle. Sound right?

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Makwa's picture

bumping up the protein is a good idea. You are well below your TDEE, especially if you are getting to the gym on a regular basis. I would expect you to be losing weight at only 2300 cals. How long have you been dieting for?

Saint gannett's picture

Your prediction is totally correct, I am still losing weight, though not at any alarming rate, so revisiting, I am still 50g short daily on protein to above numbers and most say my carbs are too low. Adding a rice/chicken/egg mid-day meal fixes the protein and adds some good complex carbs, putting in 2x Slim Fast shakes makes up calories to 3013 (calculator on age/activity puts me needing 3100 daily) so the following is what I end up with:
Calories: 3013 Fat: 103g Carbs: 224g Fiber: 29g Protein: 278g (Protein never exceeds 40g in any 4-hour period except mid-day meal and dinner).

I can cut the slim fast as I go, cutting 230 calories/38g carbs-15g protein each cut, which seems in line with the program that will carry me through two dietary cuts. Teaspoon of whole peanut butter into my protein drink makes up the protein. Cuts 3 & 4, just remove the milk from Protein Drink, easy changes, that is 4x carb drops which should carry me to the end of my cut.

With this, I would hope to lost just a tiny bit of waist line but maintain weight over the next 18-days, then I will officially be in my cutting and can start to drop carbs as written above? I think this will work.

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Makwa's picture

I think you have a good plan laid out there. It is good to get back up to at least maintenance for awhile if you have been dieting for a long time. This will reset insulin sensitivity and your body will be ready to shed the fat again once you start restricting cals. I would have a couple of good refeed days just before you start your cut.

Saint gannett's picture

6-months, hitting gym 4-on/1-off religiously since opened in April... home workouts through March. Lost huge amounts of back fat before waist line came down, have it down to 35" from 41" now 36 with the deca/dpbol bridge, but weight holding at 90kg...is 88+kg in morning and 90 after hydrating.

Sedentary work is killing me, 9-hours a day at a desk with Test and Trace.

EDIT: Shit - should have put in there that I am 54 and likely BMR is a bit less than the average youngster. I think this makes a factor in my maths.

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WILDCARD1's picture

THIS IS REALLY GREAT MATERIAL BROTHA THANMS FOR PUTTING IN THE TIME SO THAT OTHER CAN BENEFIT FROM YOUR RESEARCH OUTSTANDING

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frankyfourfingerz's picture

brilliant

ukwhore.ohmy's picture

Insanely good thread

Halfnaty13's picture

Hey guys, can anyone help me with my calculations? I don't understand the Carbs calculations. Ill copy and paste the part that doesn't make sense, then I'll post my calculations. Maybe somone can point out where I went wrong and correct me if possible. Thanks for checking it out. I appreciate it.

"The protein and fat equates to 12.5 calories/lb of bodyweight. In our example above, this person was consuming 20cals/lb of bodyweight. So subtract the protein and fat from that and you are left with 7.5 calories of carbohydrates/lb of bodyweight. There are 4 calories/gram of carbs, so what this results in is our example bodybuilder should be eating around 1.875g of carbs/lb of bodyweight (1500 calories)."

I weight 225lbs .
My current average calories is 1600
Cal/lb- 7.11
CAL/PROTEIN- 1800
CAL/FATS- 1012.5

NOW it says to "subtract protein and fats from that"? what.....? Its honestly really confusing. Im just trying to figure this out. If anyone can help me. Please help me.

Johnny Bravo's picture

Why are you only eating 1600 calories at 225? That’s the problem. With the diet being 12.5cal/lb of only protein and fat that means 2800 calories with zero carbs. You are already eating far below that minimum range at only 1600 calories.

DecaDong's picture

I have negative Karma for daring to say something to a longtime account on here last year. That being said I'm enhancing the next 12 weeks of my workouts and cutting from 255. This is my diet so far. Would love some help tweaking it. I'm 39 years old. 6'2 255lbs at 18%bf. I'm carb sensitive but consistent cardio shreds me from years of cutting weight.

Mon,Wed,Sat C 175g, P 250g, F 85g
Tue, Sun C 80g, P225g, F 60g
Thu C 125g, P225g, F 75g
Fri C 250g, P275g, F 125g

Greg's picture

I have negative Karma for daring to say something to a longtime account on here last year.

Keep telling yourself that. You lost a point or two across 10 different threads.

MonstrousS's picture

Thanks for the read! I'm assuming this one is alright to bump. Makwa, do you feel that amount of protein is needed to give your body the most necessary muscle building, building blocks, or is a good portion of it there simply so that the amount of calories they take up arent inhabited by more fat/carbs? I only ask because It's becoming a popular opinion that folks pretty much naturally eat enough protein just by being relatively mindful of having protein sources in all of their meals. Meaning that for most men, it could be as low as the 150-250 range, and still be plenty for the raw purpose of optimal protein synthesis. I'm not subscribing to that idea just yet, but just wanted to get some feedback if you have time. Thank you.

addicted.to.pain's picture

There are plenty of People on these forums that will disagree with what I'm gonna say but to each his own.

30mg's of protein per meal x 5-6 meals a day is and should be more than enough to put weight on your frame even with the increased protein synthesis added by AAS , the body will only digest as much protein as it needs and you will shit out the rest. So the human body with the added up-tic of a bodybuilding schedule in the gym does require more protein to build muscle but not as much as most people think 200mg protein a day should be plenty , the trick is making sure you have a constant feed of protein in your system which is why you eat every 2 to 3 hrs .

Now the professional bodybuilders you see on stage particularly the big dogs eating 8 10 or even 12 times a day are doing so because they are using "certain PEDS" that allow them to digest and synthesize an absolutely ridiculous amount of calories , most people don't run such PEDS and are wasting food by eating so much.

MonstrousS's picture

Hey man thanks for sharing that. In my anecdotal journey, I've found this protein concept of roughly 200, broken up thru out the day to be completely sufficient. I mean, cycles, adding new compounds and increasing dosages always result in quick gains of some kind, (so long as i'm being responsible in other areas) BUT I still believe I can reasonably asses that being more concerned about a protein source per meal, rather than a protein gram amount per day, is both simpler and more efficient.

I hear you about the forbidden PED. That seems to be quite another level. The most unfortunate is when natty guys with big ole guts they they geel ashamed of come up to me talking about they are eating big to get big, likely because they heard one of those professional PED users say something like that. Some people are just a victim of being dumb and busy.

Zuttome's picture

I will be doing this once I start my cut great information.

irishjuice_88's picture

Great info!

twistedsister's picture

nice never seen this one added to favs

helloBrooklyn's picture

Makwa, are refeed days necessary while cutting?

Makwa's picture

When prepping there is no such thing as a refeed, but when just general purpose cuttinging a refeed can be very helpful to reset insulin sensitivity and keep the fat melting off. The lower your carbs the more frequently you may be able to implement a refeed. If your fat loss seems to have stalled, try a refeed and see if it boosts your metabolism back up.

helloBrooklyn's picture

I understand, thank you. Definitely not prepping.

One more question. I train very early in the morning. If I were to do fasted cardio at home before training, I would have to pretty much slam my carb heavy breakfast immediately afterwards then go to lift right after digesting it. As long as the cardio itself was done in a fasted state, does it matter that I'm eating as soon as I'm done with it?

Makwa's picture

Take a look at this, especially regarding the timing of your cardio. I think you would be better off getting your breakfast in first and then go hit the weights and THEN do your steady state cardio afterwards.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/when-to...

helloBrooklyn's picture

Never thought of that. Brilliant. Thank you.

Christophany's picture

Makwa, what about cardio during a bulk? Would you suggest some light cardio during a bulking phase, in order to stave off the lbs around the midsection?

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Makwa's picture

Nothing wrong with a little cardio for cardiovascular health, but don't overdo it with the cardio. Those are cals that can be put into growth. Start with a low enough bodyfat and your nutrient partitioning will be geared towards lbm and not fat so fat gain should be minimal but there will be some. Don't eat foolish carbs and there shouldn't be that much fat gain. I have put on nearly 25 lbs during this bulk with minimal fat gain and I haven't done a drop of cardio in almost 18 wks.

Christophany's picture

I think I must have overdone it on the carbs. For the first time in almost 15 years I can't see my abs, and I've gained something like 15 lbs in the last month -- I am assuming primarily fat and water from the increased amount of calories. Should I stop this bulk?

Also, I have heard of some people being carb sensitive. Is there a way to get tested for this? A little background, I used to be a long-distance runner and had no problem putting away the carbs while keeping a tight core. Is it possible my body became so efficient at conserving the carbs for cardio, that it now uses them for fat storage because I am no longer running? I am not looking to get schooled for my ignorance as I don't have any science to support my thoughts about this. However, I do find it strange how carbs now seem to weigh me down. Maybe I don't have the genetics for bodybuilding?

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Makwa's picture

Are you on cycle? That is way too much weight otherwise. Might want to get your thyroid checked.

Christophany's picture

I am running test at 500 MG (first cycle). Could it be high sodium intake? I do use a lot of KC Masterpiece on my chicken breasts. I will cut that shit out altogether if you think it would help. I am also going to get some panels performed to determine if there is another reason for the increased weight around my midsection.

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Makwa's picture

Sounds like you put a shit-ton of water weight on over the last month. Lot of things could be going on. How many weeks into cycle are you and what are you doing for AI? How many cals above your TDEE are you? How much water are you drinking?

Christophany's picture

I am exactly 4 weeks in today. I am using 2.5 MG of Letrozole every 4-5 days, depending on how I feel, and drinking anywhere from 1-1.5 gallons of water everyday. I am consuming about 5-600 above my TDEE even on off days. Have not been doing any cardio but I am going to start HIIT 2x each week. I am not going to lie, every time I eat chicken I drown it in KC Masterpiece. Hope I didn't fuck up too bad by using the BBQ sauce.

Edit: I hope by reducing the sodium I might be able to fix this problem. Hypothyroidism runs in my family and I am scared as shit. I am trying to stay optimistic here.

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Makwa's picture

The BBQ sauce/sodium isn't the problem.
FR sent

Christophany's picture

FR accepted.

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Joker757's picture

Great info here Mak. Thanks for sharing.

helloBrooklyn's picture

Outstanding. Once I feel I have enough mass (I may have to face facts and compromise on this), I'm going to give this cutting diet a try.

Is 2g protein/lb of body weight going to stress the kidneys?

Makwa's picture

I asked my nephrologist that question and he said no. Need to stay well hydrated though.

helloBrooklyn's picture

Always do.

Thank you, sir.

Maxriptx1106's picture

Very good advice. Thank you for taking the time to write this.

Monster33's picture

Thank you. Really helpful info

Musclepants1's picture

I actualy have this as a bookmark. Everytime I click on safari I have this page ready to come to. Invaluable information. Thanks for the time and effort put into this @Makwa

Deviss's picture

awesome application, why i did not use it before?

Musclepants1's picture

This is fantastic information. I'll be sure to use this when i finally have enough muscle for a good cut....... Sometime from now, lol

Makwa's picture

Don't use the myfitnesspal calculator for cals and macros. Just use the myfitnesspal app for tracking what you do eat. Those numbers you have there are way low. Use this total daily energy expenditure (TDEE) calculator to determine your calories.

https://tdeecalculator.net/

BaldricJ's picture

I always adhere to the frequent and low-calorie food. It always helps Smile

gqelite's picture

It's incredible the amount of time some of these guys put in for us on here. Respect.

I just got me a tape measure and calipers and downloaded the app.

bolt781's picture

This is perfect for where I'm at right now feeling as if I've hit a plateau! Again awesome information which will be used in my journey!