posted Thu, 10/31/2024 - 16:11
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+ 3 Team Garbage VS. Team Vermin
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One of the 2 groups up for the presidency are openly speaking on removing the 1st and 2nd amendments, have already passed legislation allowing deadly force used on Americans at protests, want to obliterate genders and wants to force a digital ID tied to social identity credit scores and a completely censored internet. How’s Eroids gonna work then?
you forgot to mention the CBDC (central bank digital dollar) which can be seized at will and will monitor every cent you spend. imagine a parking ticket coming right out of your wallet you don't get notice for until days later. Health insurance rates fluctuating on the type of food you ate that week...
That's when we should say fuck yous and start a uprising
Noted. The digital dollar being tied to social credit score as a function of control, limiting one’s access to travel, medical care, bank access, communication, food, etc. connected to your unique blockchain verified online ID, recording all you may do & censoring any contradictory ideas, rating your social safety level based on your interests, social circle and income.
well i wish we were all as rich as you to not have to worry financially which side wins.
I wish. I made good financial decisions early on which made a difference later. It was a slow long term process. I do think if Trumps tariff plan goes through it’s going to get a lot lot more expensive for the average person in the next few years with the payoff maybe coming many years later. If you think prices are high now wait until the tariffs hit on 90% of what we buy weekly. Sure it will encourage made it America but that’s 5-10 years down the road with a ton of pain until then.
The de-dollarization of the USD as a world reserve currency, the increasing size of the BRICS nations, the 40 trillion-dollar USA debt and the 307 trillion-dollar global debt does not make you secure. Nor would taxes on your unrealized capital gains (and any other measure taken by a government undergoing an economic freefall)
Not to mention the prospects for our kids. Even now the American dream of home ownership is out of reach for them. And it cascades from there.
We pay tariffs now. For example, autos coming into the US from Japan have a 2.5% tariff. The Tariff does increase the cost of THOSE autos, but also is in line with the cost of US autos. So, are the prices REALLY going up? Tariffs incentivizes US production. It is cheaper for Toyota to build cars here than import them... who wins? The American auto worker. Likewise, tariffs are placed on US exports to stop cheap US goods from flooding foreign markets. Goods we can't or don't produce don't face tariffs. The seasonal fruit trade between us and New Zeeland for example is mutually beneficial giving us/them fruit all year round.
Tariffs, as the left wants to portray them, harken to trade wars. That is not what Trump will be doing.
Agenda 2030: They want to make it impossible to own a car, house, have private property, or eat meat.
Have you seen the push to trigger meat allergies via inoculation?
I get a new plastic straw in every drink.
That's why we have to stop it
Stop what? It already happened and is getting worse. If you buy some red meat for a BBQ you're going to spend $500. Shitty brand new cars are $50,000, the average car payment is getting close to $1,000. The majority of kids being born now will never own a home. You need to get rid of the federal reserve and I don't see that happening under any president.
I can't say I can Argue about anything you said. I agree, but dame I can hope. Kamala broke it, Trump will fix it. They want every citizen to need total government reliance so they can control everything
Gold is the answer
Greg2024
everything was so much cheaper when trump was in office than the past 4 years. ill keep it simple gas and groceries
I mean the new tampons in the Men’s rooms are pretty convenient for the Anadrol nose bleeds
My high schooler just told me this week his health teacher doesn’t want the kids to use male/female but instead “people with penises/vaginas”. Fuck that
Yeah that's taking things way too far. That doesn't surprise me at all. It's all a hot mess really
This madness needs to stop
Oh fuck no. They’d be getting a talking to… that is legitimately damaging the children’s education!! Male/Female are not options
That's true
Feeling fiery this morning… any lefty’s wanna debate?
Start a forum topic posting this very statement. It will be the hottest forum on this board.
Bet you are lol. I'll try to recruit one for you. They'll be looking for ya come election day. In the meantime I have a endless supply of theatre style butter popcorn on stand by
I was more so imagining you sprawled across a throne entirely made up of the huge Christmas Tin Buckets of cheese/caramel/butter/kettlecorn LOL!
@DeeMan
O hell nah. You lost me on the cheese/ kettlecorn part! I'd take caramel though. That kettlecorn is disgusting to me
Honestly all types are mid to me. The hassle of shells stuck in teeth is a big turnoff
Yeah true. Big turn off. Something about that movie theatre butter though. You know straight out the movie theater, not that store bought crap
My Aunt used to always take one of those long ICEE straws and stick in in various places in the bucket down to the bottom- THEN put the butter down the straw so that it got evenly distributed throughout the whole container.
I’ve seen it done and posted to social media a couple times now, but it was always a cool thing to me. Oh I agree man… on rare occasions I will indulge haha. Real good butter can make damn near anything better.
Can even make the movie even seem better lol. Now that's some good popcorn huh?
Damn your Aunt knew exactly what she was doing. I never thought about that method
Next time you have a bucket- try it
! Don’t overdo it or you’ll have soggy popcorn, but it’s the only way to get a fully even coating while preserving the crunch!!
Fuck yeah it does!! I am a gummy candy dude I can’t lie- some popcorn with a bag of gummy bears, sour patch, twizzlers, lifesaver gummies, hell even fruit snacks lol. Maybe it’s the child in me! Also like the macros for fast workout carbs on the occasion.
Damn I use to love those gummies. Hey some football players still suck on those coated sour gummies for the sugar. I've been around a group of athletes recently that drunk a lil pickle juice. Just a bit of electrolytes
I had to pick up 4 sides gigs in the last couple years just to keep myself afloat without increasing my expenditures. I spend $90-100/wk on groceries for me and a dog. I'm absolutely sick of hearing how we have to send our tax money to fund conflicts in other places when we can't even take care of our own citizens. My life and the lives of almost everyone I know that isn't already well off has gotten substantially more difficult in the past 4 years. I would vote for a literal giant douchebag over Harris. That's not even getting into how utterly stupid and annoying I find this woman.
I work at a small, we have 12 employees , family business in the construction/manufacturing industry. I've been here for almost 20 years now and am in line to take it over when my parents retire in a couple years. I've seen the things my parents have had to do to try and keep the business a float and all the guys employed. I would have to put everything on the line to take it over and I'm just not that confident I would succeed with how the industry has been going.
Keeping our guys employed so that they can continue to to take care of their families is the most important thing.
I didn't know much about him before. But after watching the Rogan interview with Vance I really like the guy. And would vote Trump even if it was just to get Vance lined up for his own shot at the white house.
Our system is utterly broken. I don't know how it gets fixed short of wiping the board clean and starting fresh. I know with Kamala itl just be the machines business as usual. Fuck the average citizen so that the wealthy donors can keep getting special treatment at our expense . If Trump can shake the house up some maybe something good can come of it.
I understand my man. I just think past years have been better all around. I can ever go back to my teen years where things were way better. I miss those days and I don't think we're getting those days back honestly. My pops was a business owner so I know exactly what you're saying. I do think covid brought on issues that just weren't handled well by this administration and honestly I don't think any administration could of handled what happened with covid. This was definitely a domino affect. An Irresistible force that couldn't be stopped
I absolutely agree COVID did screw things up. Mainly with the supply chain. I was suspicious of COVID pretty early. But I can tell you the exact moment I knew it was being used as a power play not to try and keep people safe. The former governor of my state actually has a company in the same line of business as my family. Now we do some work with hospitals fairly often and actually had a hospital job on going when COVID happened so we were applying for the exemption to stay open for necessary businesses. Our governor shut down all the shops in the state. Except his. When it was brought up by several shops and people started to make some noise he didn't shut his shop down. He let all the rest open back up. If he thought that things were so serious that you had to shut down all the businesses and keep people home you'd think that he would be particularly incentivised to take care of his family members and his employees. But he just used it as an opportunity to try and cash in. I knew for sure right then that things weren't as they were presented by the media/government and I never trusted a thing that they said about it again.
I also want to argue against something you said to smurfdude below. Sure Dems went hard after trump. But it wasn't just them. His own party stonewalled him pretty damn hard too. We don't actually have a 2 party system here. That's just the control mechanism we're presented. We have a uniparty in practice. They just put on a show as a way to divide the American people and keep us focused on the other side instead of on the ruling group in general. So much of the divisive bullshit is to keep our attention diverted and us busy fighting with each other so nobody takes the time to wonder where all the problems really come from. These people put on a show and then when they think the cameras are off they fist bump each other and laugh at all of us. That's literally happened several times in the past. If people would focus on all the things we have in common and come together rather than those few things that we don't agree those in power would be fucked and they know it. It's why they keep breaking us down into smaller and smaller groups that disagree about something we're told is so horrible.
The fact that it's been the entire ruling apparatus that's gone after trump males me want him to have another shot even more. If they're that scared of the guy then they must really think he has a chance to do some real damage to them. A ground up revolution that actually uses the system to happen would certainly be ideal in comparison to a violent civil war which may well end up with more of the same kind of worthless dick bags in charge.
The censorship and propaganda during COVID and George Floyd was some of the worst and most extreme in decades. People banned left and right… forced to mask up/vaccinate in many scenarios… all social media constantly monitored…
The left talks on and on about what’s fascist and anti-democratic, but has an APPOINTED candidate!
Trying to have their political opponent put in prison?? The appellate court doesn’t even know why the case EXISTS because it was POLITICALLY MOTIVATED!! THATS ANTI-DEMOCRACY!
Spew on and on and on, but don’t even know the meanings behind the things they are saying!
I remember all these things! I know which party is FASCIST AND ANTI-DEMOCRATIC!!
Well there's no doubt that Dems went after Trump...no doubt. And they made it so damn obvious. I think in a sense it helped him honestly. Now I will say that covid was real, so not sure why some folks said it was fake which blew my mind when I started hearing all that fake talk. It was very disrespectful because I lost a relative and knew others that died as a result of covid. Now they can argue about the vaccine but not the actual virus itself. I've seen some things up close with it so it was serious. I know for a fact that many Doctors and Nurses had no idea how to handle things during that time. I say this again being up close. Now I agree there was a lot of propaganda. Like I said I don't fall for all the lies.
100%. Both mom and step-father are in healthcare so I knew right away it was real. Thank God my mom was done working at the hospital when it hit, but my stepdad as a Respiratory Therapist saw so much shit! They were completely out of ventilators multiple times. So many deaths. He works at one of the top 3 hospitals in Dallas/Fort Worth not a small or low funded one either. I am also very thankful that they are very scientifically minded- they wait for results and PROVEN outcomes rather than following the herd.
Your stepdad was in the middle of it all then, trust me I know. Yes it's a fact ventilators were lacking. Like I said I saw everything up close and then I start to hear certain political supporters saying covid was a hoax. I mean they gotta be stupid than a mofo to even say something like that. I mean just tells me where some folks are mentally lol.. Also they said those N95 masks didn't work....really? You couldn't make all this crap up even if you tried to. Folks amaze me nowadays
EDIT: Respiratory Therapist probably had it the worse dealing with covid so your stepdad was stressed
I think hoax part of it is when hospitals were calling every person who died with covid , a covid death. Deaths that literally had nothing to do with covid such as auto accidents and things Iike this. Mt friends 90 something year old father fell out of a tree on his farm and broke a bunch of bones. He died in the hospital , covid on his death certificate.
Me and my wife groceries are $300 a week it's fuckin sick. $175 used to do it 5 years ago. The fact is things were better under TRUMP in every metric
Yea I’m in the $300-400/wk range too. And I eat large volumes of basic items. Oatmeal, milk, and eggs. Just to try and be cheap. Shit still magically adds up every time I go to the store though. I blame my wife’s inability to eat the same boring ass diet as myself lol. I cook her the nice things and then eat the basic shit while she enjoys herself.
I'm a pretty basic bitch when it comes to what I make myself. Half my weekly bill comes from either 5-6 lbs of lean ground beef or half beef half chicken breasts. It's about $8 for 1 lb of 93/7 ground beef at my usual grocery store. Once every 6 months or so my parents will take a trip to Sam's club and let me tag along vbi grab as many of the individually wrapped 3 lb packages of 93/7 every time I go. $14.99 for 3 lbs is amazing. I'll walk out with 30 lbs and just stuff then in the freezer to use as needed. It might actually be worth the $50 membership fee just to have access to that beef. It would probably pay for itself in half a year. And they sell 6 packs of the uncle bens microwave Jasmin rice for like $7 which is also really cheap compared to normal grocery stores.
+1 was to that LOL! Was about $400 living together now I can make $150 work being single lol. I am a very simple human and can force myself to eat whatever if it’s what I need. Of course that number is without irregularities.
Yea my fkn wife is spoiled too lol. And after the initial shopping I still have to stop a few times a week to get some more shit. 40 bucks for one little bag of nothing
My dad owns/operates his own business. Mom does all the accounting. The amount of money they have to shell out for taxes/insurance is criminal. And that’s with my mom using every loophole she knows for write offs being a CPA before quitting that to be a full time mom.
The way it’s set up now, I don’t see how it’s possible to even start a business in the hopes of actually making good money. At this point my dad is making the same money he was before he quit his job and started his own business, he’s just his own boss now.
I feel for you @Black90tsi because I witness that struggle first hand with my parents. I was out working with my dad for free every break I had from college when he first started his company up. I don’t like Trump on a personal level, but on a running the country level my parents had it the best under him vs Obama or Biden/Harris. I don’t have to like you on a personal level to want you to run the country. Especially when the other option is just 4 more years of what we’ve just had.
We've had to start including in our bids that due to how crazy pricing has become that adjustments may have to be made later on. There are times where a job we bid doesn't even start for 12-18 months. Sometimes materials almost double in price in the time between a bid and job start. There's no way to just absorb the cost yet you can't give a crazy high estimate up front to try and account these things u front or you just don't get any jobs.
My parents are def pretty well off. But they put up everything to buy the business. They literally used out house as collateral against the loan. That was supposed to be the American dream. Yet somehow they're the evil business owners who are taking advantage of the system instead of the people who are creating jobs in the community and trying to uplift others in our community. It's absolutely insane.
Very well said! My tax bracket is insanity and the highest it’s ever been, but the cost of living has also gotten insane right along side it. Something has to change… if this much of middle class is living paycheck to paycheck I can’t even imagine how the people that were in poverty are doing.
they are still living on their welfare and milking the system. thats how they are living still. the hard working middle-low class are the ones that are struggling now