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All is welcome, this will be a " HEALTHY" discussion about election night in America. Be Nice......

Pumped_'s picture

Someone who actually sees correctly. That "small" business, the liberals say is huge and you should be in the category of a rich person and pay super high taxes. They are so out of touch with the real people they think if both parents work you are "rich" and dont belong in with the people not working. Like when Obama lowered the tax bracket to $40,000 and millions got stuck overpaying taxes. 40k a year isnt shit but as soon as he got elected my taxes went up that January and my "great black saviour" he campaigned as for us black people was exposed as a fraud

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SimonM84's picture

Very well put. I enjoy these elaborate explanations and discussions that everyone is posting instead of neggung each other out of spite.

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iLikeGlocks's picture

I consider myself a Conservative because of my lifestyle which transfers into politics, however I am Conservative in the sense of being a Traditional Liberal since I live in America. To be fully Conservative would be to go against many of our founding ideas and Constitution, so I am Conservative in the American sense. A Civic Nationalist if you were to put a more analytical label on it. I am finding trouble on who to vote for because the culture between the left and right is becoming the same and policies are having overlaps as well. You had Donald Trump the other week saying kids shouldn't get gender affirming surgery without parental consent, which yes but no child should be getting gender affirming surgery with or without parental consent. He said "staple green cards to college graduates diplomas". That is something a Conservative should not be saying, Conservatives are supposed to conserve culture and law. I mean yes somethings still pull me towards Trump but it isn't any issues I find on the top of my concern list. Where I truly am concerned to me, there is no difference in either of the two. Another thing Trump said which is one that really pissed me off he said "this is the most important election for Israel" I'm sorry but you can't serve both America and Israel. He also signed those Anti-Semetic orders in like 2019 if I'm correct which is a threat to Free Speech and opens up doors for more things like that. Sure, it was maybe hard to implement but as I said it opens doors. Now it looks like I'm just hating on Trump but the left has done equally the same but that's my point I was making earlier within the overlaps and the reason I'll criticize the right more is because that's where the conservatives are supposed to be and that is what I am. I realize I mentioned more of the "culture war" stuff and did not really touch on economics but that is what pull me towards Trump, is the economic side of things

Black90tsi's picture

Unfortunately some of this stuff is a choice between the amount of support they'll get depending on which side gets in. Israel is getting their money no matter who wins. I don't think kids should be taking hormone blockers let alone getting gender confirming surgeries. But we've already got states that will take your kids as wards if you refuse to confirm their gender and do it anyways. Giving the parent the say so instead of a state is at least a step in the right direction. Even if it's only a small one.

If you watch south park they did a recurring bit starting back during one of the Obama elections. You presented with a choice between a giant douche or a turd sandwich and made to feel like they've given you the most important choice in the world. I picked the one where both myself and most others around me had a much easier time financially under. There's never going to be a perfect candidate. Frankly I don't think I've ever seen more than what was an acceptable candidate. I think trump will do more that's beneficial to the country even if it's for nothing more so that his ego can say "I did what you said I couldn't and what you said you wanted to but didn't".

iLikeGlocks's picture

My main point was not about Israel but that is true, Israel will get theirs no matter who wins but however there is growing sentiment against Israeli aid brewing. Also if you are talking about the Indiana case or Montana case when you say "we've already got states that will take your kids", the Indiana case the child was not eating and becoming very ill and as for the Montana case, I personally do not see anything wrong with sending a "gender confused person" to a psychiatric ward. It is a mental illness and those people need help. "Giving the parents the say so" those parents did give a say so and CPS still got involved. "There's never going to be a perfect candidate" never said Trump needed to be perfect, you'll always find disagreements. I like U.S. Representative Thomas Massie and I disagree on many things with him. However, not wanting America flooded with legal and illegal immigration, wanting to conserve free speech, and not wanting gender delusional psychos running around shouldn't be hard to be against and say. I also did state that the economics is what pulls me to Trump but people must realize the culture war is real. I used to be solely focused on economics, and still am hence me being a Civic Nationalist I also am an Economic Nationalist but Ignored the culture war but it is something to not be ignored.

Black90tsi's picture

I was referring to cali. They just passed a law not too long ago and those asshats will almost certainly use it and brag about doing so.

iLikeGlocks's picture

I'll def make sure to read into that. Sincerely appreciate you taking the time to read and reply while being civil. God Bless you

DeeMan's picture

The economics is the only thing that pulls me toward Trump so I totally understand. He's just not for me though. I feel the exact same way as you do and that's being honest. I think we look at Trump the same way. This comment by you is probably one of the most realistic comments I've read thus far. Thanks my man

iLikeGlocks's picture

Appreciate you brother and thank you for taking time to read it and reply. God Bless you

DeeMan's picture

U bet my man. God bless

SimonM84's picture

Love this comment which is why I’m not voting for Trump. I share very similar views

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iLikeGlocks's picture

America First

DeeMan's picture

Absolutely. U better believe it

Big Tone36's picture

Trump is a gangster, exactly why I'm voting for him. We need that right now. Putin, Xi, kim, they are gangsters. That's why they eat Biden for lunch and have no respect for anyone in that cabinet and do what they want. Netanyahu too, doesn't give a fkn about Biden administration. We have no fear on the world stage, we need that back. Kamala is fragile and they all can smell it. We'll be in WW3 guaranteed if she wins

SimonM84's picture

Owens 2024

Let the rest of the world fight their own wars !!! <3

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Black90tsi's picture

I would like to have seen trump ask her to come on board as something like the press secretary. Some position where she'd be dealing with media regularly and they'd have no choice but to post of the footage. Id love to see her verbally whoop all those holier than though asshat "journalists" on the regular.

Big Tone36's picture

She's cool, I like what she's about. I listened to her sometimes.....

Trump is going to end these wars and have everyone so fkn scared to try to start another we'll have peace

FlemDaddyKush's picture

good leaders have to be strong and aggressive. the strongest leaders like you just said were all strong and aggressive, its just they use their power for mostly bad. just like hitler too, probably the most powerful leaderr of all time just used his power for bad. and your right about ww3, every country knows they can walk all over us with biden/harris

Black90tsi's picture

I actually worry about Harris intentionally starting ww3 because she feels she needs to prove that she can belly up to the bar with the big boys! And because I truly think she's a psychopath. How many times can you see someone start cackling over the idea of things like kids in the middle east being collateral damage to Israeli missiles and shit?

Big Tone36's picture

Women like to say, and it's because they can't understand because they are women, Trump has no compassion for anyone, he has no emotion, he doesn't care about anyone but himself, it's because he can't let those types of feelings get in the way of what must be done.

FlemDaddyKush's picture

exactly, when you make good decisions you cant be worried about what people will think emotionally. gotta do what you gotta do

smurfdude1234567's picture

This!! People say it’s bad he’s friends with all these people and says a lot, but I’d rather have a gangster in charge over a pushover who gets laughed at and trampled over!!! Trump will keep us out of conflicts and line our pockets!!

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Big Tone36's picture

BIDENOMICS IS WORKING!!!!

FlemDaddyKush's picture

she looks like that trans boxer imane khelif

SimonM84's picture

I think that boxer is an actual woman.

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Big Tone36's picture

She has a weird genetic mutation. She is a girl, they would of killed her in her country no question if that was a tranny . There's no way they could get away with it and pull that off. I still believe she has a unfair advantage because she has strength, power , and hormone levels of a man probably but is natural. It's like a girl on steroids

Big Tone36's picture

Kamala campaign is a disaster, they bring out cardi b to swindle voters. A ex stripper/whore, who raps about riding dicks, sucking dicks, and getting blown out by BBC's. Talking about women rights. Lmao. Her own husband just put her on blast for sleeping with another dude while she's pregnant with his baby. Whata fkn disgrace. That's who our daughters should aspire to be. She allowed herself to get gang raped as her initiation into the bloods. That was a honorable decision

Black90tsi's picture

I don't know how most parents don't just lock their kids away from all forms of media these days. The culture has done so much damage to the youth by making things like cardi b and Megan the stallion into roll models for our kids. Media doesn't seem to push anything that isn't somehow detrimental to a decent and morally based society. It's all about getting that sweet sweet internet attention by whatever means possible.

They push these only fans creators like they're so amazing. You got that Aussie chick who became famous and made millions a year for sleeping with 300 dudes in a year. Then this year she's on track to hit 600 and the girls mom comes out talking about how proud she was over her daughter and how she shows young girls that you can accomplish anything if try. Any attractive chick can bang hundreds of dudes a year. It's not impressive. It's more impressive when they have the self worth to not open their legs for every dude who wants to throw it in. There's another from Australia how just banged 101 dudes in 14 hours for content. And the media is putting out stories about how amazing she is! How she'll make $250k off all that content. When can we get a candidate to make being modest and having morals great again?

FlemDaddyKush's picture

i know its very sad. its funny you say that about kids looking up to cardi b. that political rapper that raps for trump(tom macdonald) said that in one of his older songs. and Eminem who uses to rap and slander gays in his songs now made a speach for Harris saying he supports gays and their decision.

smurfdude1234567's picture

If the dems had half a brain they’d realize they are getting swindled and maybe even be OFFENDED! From the rappers, fake accents, lies about life, Obama quoting Eminem, and so much more. That whole side relies on the LOW IQ of the average liberal.

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DeeMan's picture

Eminem needs to shave that damn beard. Looks weird

Big Tone36's picture

He's a fkn flame. I never liked him anyway. Never had one album of his

Big Tone36's picture

They have no authenticity. Trump is the same his whole life

FlemDaddyKush's picture

trying to get the sheep heard numbers up

Big Tone36's picture

It's all bullshit. They need to in order to keep there brand. Any brand that opposes the Dems agenda gets cancelled

FlemDaddyKush's picture

yeah its a sad world, they just want as many sheep as they can to follow the heard

Big Tone36's picture

Sheeple I like to call them

FlemDaddyKush's picture

im a black sheep for life

Scrawny-to-not's picture

I love JD Vance, the guy is super funny, relatable, real, intelligent, seems honest and kind. Donny is a wwe persona as a person and I love him too, but they balance eachother really well.
It blows my mind that anyone would look at kamala and Tim and think yeah I wanna vote for those people.
Years and years of hyper biased attacks from corrupt mainstream media owned and operated by ((them)) has brought us to this place. Exactly where ((they)) want us, divided and distracted.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who wins. America is owned by Israel, investment bankers, big pharma and other industries ((they)) control.

SimonM84's picture

I liked your comment on this statement

America is owned by Israel, investment bankers, big pharma and other industries ((they)) control.

But the issue is Trump also

is owned by Israel, investment bankers, big pharma and other industries ((they)) control.

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Scrawny-to-not's picture

Oh I completely agree, that's why I said it doesn't really matter who wins.
It does, in some ways, mostly short, but in the background the gears will keep turning as they have for so long. The democracy will continue to be subverted, ((they)) will continue to push for the importation of the 3rd world, our dollars will keep going into ((their)) pockets, we will keep bankrolling Israeli interests.

Sithx66's picture

This!

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SimonM84's picture

You officially have earned my love <3

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DavosD's picture

You must be legit retarded as american to vote for trump. That most of the people on this forum support trump tells me that most steroid users have low IQ .

Downvote me all you want.

SimonM84's picture

Typical From a Northern European. They only filter one side to create a leftist biased but do you have any criticisms on the left? I have so many close friends and family who strongly oppose Trump but I hear absolutely nothing regarding the current state affairs regarding the economy, immigration, global wars etc. I used to vote democrat to go against bush/Cheney wars but now the left have become openly supportive on forever wars. How hypocritical and ironic. It’s only ok if the party one supports are commuting the war crimes, spending our tax dollars and send our sons and daughters to war? Who does war benefit and historically who has it benefited ? You know better my brother.

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Sithx66's picture

Democrats used to also believe in freedom of speech!

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SimonM84's picture

Lol now they believe in total censorship except when it appeases them. Biggest hypocrites ever. I know people who are simply voting for Kamala because they’re Anti Trump, this right here is the issue and we need new parties and people representing the country. Not politicians whose sole interest is to benefit corporations.

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Sithx66's picture

100%

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Big Tone36's picture

Not no more. Thank God Elon restored that right on X

Sithx66's picture

I’ve never had a twitter or X or whatever the fuck. But yes Elon did some G shit

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