posted Fri, 01/12/2024 - 04:07
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So before cycle (160mg Test Cyp) my Estrodial was at 64. I felt fine. No issues.
During cycle 400-425mg Test Cyp I had some flare ups after week 3. I started with 12.5mg ED.
After bloodwork my Ultrasensative Estradiol was at 14. Again I felt fine but feel like I am hindering my gains.
So now I am trying 12.5mg EOD which for 2 weeks seems to be going ok.
I know there really isn't a single answer to this because everyone is different but what do people consider "low" Estrogen. I guess I am looking for a "in general" where do people feel like its limiting them rather then helping. Main reason as I said I trie dto lower my Aromasin dose was to boost my Estrogen back up to 40--50.
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6.25ed or try the eod method. Bloods will map your body and maybe aro is too aggressive for your system but again the bloods will dictate.
Yes, id personally go towards 50. If 64 have no bp, water retention etc then i would have went with it. I agree 14 is too low and the risks imo are there. I like my joints feeling good. Lubricated and strong. Not sore and liiking at injuries.
Why do you feel like you were hindering gains? Just because you typically hear us say estro is anabolic doesn't mean you will hinder gains if it is lower. It basically means don't panic and overreact if it is on the higher end than what you normally are
14 is on the lower end but if you aren't experiencing any negative sides and feeling fine your body is in balance and there is no reason for anabolism not to be occurring as far as estrogen is related. I have seen the normal range of estradiol cited anywhere from 10-55 pg/ml. I would be more concerned about the high estro reading while on TRT. That is not healthy long term and probably should be looked at. Has your doc said anything about that high reading?
I wouldn't say I feel I am. Its more the reading of people saying it hinders gains with to much AI and lower Estrogen. I figured since I felt fine with higher Estrogen why not push my estrogen up to that level I felt comfortable before.
When it was at 64 doc said it was a bit high but like you said no side effects or issues so she wasn't really worried about it. Personally just for overall health and wellbeing I don't really want to go over 65 for long periods of time. I prefer it to be slightly lower.
But yea it was more about reading about everyone saying it hinders gains and knowing I can push it higher with no real side effects.
12.5 mg EOD should have you higher and still in range.
Hey Makwa, sorry to jump in the discussion like this but you’re a super knowledgeable guy on this site so just had a quick question.
I had bloods done last week, serum testosterone was 37 nmol/L, SHBG was 16 nmol/L, E2 was 47 pg/ml. This is running 100mg a week of cypionate for TRT, also using Turinabol at 40mg a day for 6 weeks, 2 weeks in atm.
Feeling some weird emotional feelings like I get sad and emotional over stupid things I never would of before, also I have lowered libido and slightly reduced erection quality.
Anything in those bloods you’d be concerned about or could explain it?
Your test and estro look to be on the high end of normal. I would drop your test dose a bit and estro will follow. That might put you in a better state of mind