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+ 10 RIP CHARLIE KIRK

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I BELIEVE IN LIVE BY THE SWORD , DIE BY THE SWORD BUT THIS GUY DID NOT LIVE BY THE SWORD AT ALL

iFit's picture

Follow up to my thoughts earlier in this thread, it is amazing what is happening globally, domestically and even locally. You all see the coverage so I’ll just mention what I see in my own town that was historically conservative but had a ton of new people, very progressive, moving in the last 10 years and all of a sudden it seemed like the conservatives were gone. They aren’t. All of a sudden the conservatives who have been so afraid to speak these last few years for fear of being called a racist, homophobe, transphobe, nazi, etc are once again back in full force. My neighbors with their lawn full of colorful virtue signaling flags and an 4 year old boy that wears an dress are now the quiet ones.

Erica Kirk - “You have no idea what you just unleashed”. Don’t believe it? Turning Point has received 18,000 request to established new chapters at various schools after Erika’s speech. . There’s a great big red tsunami coming.

Pumped_'s picture

Oh man 17 years from now you are going to be writing about the mass shooter that he lived next to you running around in a dress. Lol

Disclaimer: Just a joke for the easily offended. I do not HATE dress wearing boys. They are too young to understand anything and up to us adults to guide them in growth

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JayPlug's picture

RIP Brother.

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irongame427's picture

The “conservative” assassin, who frequented antifa discord servers, were now finding out was living with in a relationship with a transgender person. So we have a potentially gay antifa supporter with a transgender romantic partner. Starting to sound a lot more like the type of person we all suspected the minute he shot Charlie.

Pale's picture

I know the algorithms feed you that stuff but it is also proving false. Realistically it is looking more and more like he is a Groyper. This was right on right...

eighty7's picture

Are those Groyper flags hes wearing?

irongame427's picture

You’ve got it backwards. The algorithms and full force of the democrat apparatus are trying to make him into a Republican. Which you seem to have fallen for..but If you do your own research and apply a little critical thinking it quite clear he was not.

Most of us are quite a ways past those formative years and forget just how quickly one can become radicalized at any point from 18-22.

Greg's picture

Wrong, and I explained that to you in another post. Bad people can come from good families. Family members do not all have the same religious, political, or ideological beliefs. You are parroting a leftist media narrative.

Milfpounder's picture

100%.

press1's picture

It's quite Shocking the amount of truly Evil and Narcisstic people there are living among us in society today, people who literally feel no sorrow or empathy towards others misfortune. There was once a time when no one on earth would dare to be seen recording themselves celebrating someone elses death and then publishing it online, nowadays people really couldn't care less especially the generations younger than myself.

irongame427's picture

It makes me so happy to see people who were celebrating Charlie’s death getting fired from their jobs. The left started cancel culture and we complained. Now we see what we were missing lol

Greg's picture

Damn those fascist on the right and their rhetoric threatening to stand their ground...

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HbobPNBaw/

irongame427's picture

Ahh you’ve noticing the difference too. One of the most beloved conservatives and just a genuinely nice guy gets murdered and we don’t riot, or Loot, or burn down Wendy’s or kill people. But when a no name drug addict pregnant women beater gets killed (or maybe OD’d but that’s beside the point) they spent 4 months burning down our cities, looting stores, beating and killing people and causing billions in damages. We are not the same.

TheOGof93's picture

Rest in Peace brother! Charlie was one of the best people out there. His legacy will live on.

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Pale's picture

If you guys do anything today please watch this video. We are being manipulated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azE7nqqQMmo

Greg's picture

Man Pale I don't know where your disconnect is. That video is EXACTLY what I've been talking about.

You asked who had most to gain by Charles death and I said the globalist, neo-marxist. I mentioned the IMF and Blackrock. You retorted Trump as a distraction for Epstein. That's exactly the partisan smokescreen this guy is talking about. I've mentioned this has been going on for decades, the wolves among the American flock.

I mentioned the fringe both left and right think they are the righteous ones. And the algorithm bubbles. Everything in that video.

Now, watch the video link I provided and you'll see the exact same message with the Marxist psyops spelled out going as far back as the weather underground.
My suggestion, quoting Timothy Leary, tune in(to your self, family, friends, and neighbors) and drop out (of the manipulative narrative and social media algorithms).

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16UH1FPfrR/

Pale's picture

Again, you and I watch the same thing and pull different messages. Here I am this entire thread telling everyone calm down and don't jump to conclusions and your message has been the right is good the left is evil. (in a nut shell). Our message is not the same yet we are both seeing the same information we both have access to the same data. And the reason I circle back to trump is he is our president and one of them. Instead of calling for calm and patience while we figure this out he indicted blindly. It is the chaos playbook. Anyway, I have done what I can but some people want violence and will call it patriotism. No matter what we say here I think it is too late and many Americans will die needlessly before it is through.

Greg's picture

Not true at all. You are just like the left talking heads saying the right is to blame. Trump killed Kirk as a distraction for Epstein, the shooter is right on right. You totally dismissed the globalist, neo-marxist movement and my comment that we were one election away from becoming Canada and the EU.

Then you post a video that everyone on the right has been saying for years. Then you take the rights posts to stand their ground as violence while minimizing the actual violence from the left. You said the right was going to do something and I told you that all they needed to do is hold tight and watch the progressives implode. All we need to do is drop out. Get away from feeding the narrative.

You accused me of watching right wing media. I pointed you to where I get my news. Or better phrased, where I fact check the news.

I've watched your video, have you watched mine? It's a great compliment to the one you posted.

The president correctly condemned the assassination. Where is the chaos that the president needed to call for calm and patience? Memorials, prayer gatherings, candle light visuals? Even after the assassination of a good man highly regarded by the right, and the incessant, disgusting taunting from the left. There is no uprising from the right. There will be no violent uprising from the right. You will see however the silent majority not staying silent anymore.

eighty7's picture

(((GLOBALIST)))

irongame427's picture

I only watched a couple mins of it. But atleast what I watched he was saying what we’ve all been saying for years. He’s showing clips from left wing news stations taking about how they say conservatives are threat to democracy, they’re dangerous etc nudging them towards violence. Which is nothing new, we’ve and been saying this for years. Left wing media has manipulated half the country into believing people with a different political point of view are dangerous fascist Nazi bigots that probably need to be killed.

Pale's picture

He calls out both sides you just didn't listen long enough. The media is not owned by the left bud. Please clear the slate in your mind and start looking at the entire picture.

eighty7's picture

When arent we being manipulated? Look at how many people fell for the covid bullshit.

Bill1976's picture

Yeah. Covid went away because people just stopped caring. That’s it. There are all of a sudden no people dying by the millions. It was a control thing. They released a virus and lied saying it was gonna kill millions to win an election by killing the economy. There are not all these coincidences. They already proved they are willing to kill the president and Charlie Kirk. This is a common thing for the other side. Two women tried to jail me for 7 years over a sticker on my car that said
Make third shift great again. That’s all it said. I use to want to make peace with the other side now I just want a civil war. I want to take the country and I’ll run it. I’ll outlaw the mega rich from making donations and I’ll make sure the population has it OWN army to defend against the government. And make it a law saying you have to own a gun.

Drexyl's picture

I have a gunsmith/friend I use for things outside of my wheelhouse, he’s foreign born, but a very proud American. He said “I used to be afraid of us having a civil war here, now I’m afraid we won’t have one.” I’m feeling the same way these days. Things have gone too far, and it’s not this whole left vs right, gay vs straight, religion vs religion, bullshit we’re being fed (to a degree, some of that is concerning) it’s the elites vs us that’s the problem. Here’s the thing, someone could be a Muslim transvestite sitting at home with a machine gun, giant potato sack of cocaine, steroids, racist propaganda, and a fucking bazooka. If that person keeps their ideologies and contraband property inside their residence, they would live a free life without torment. It’s when people come out and push their agendas upon others is when problems begin. These problems snowball if one were to try to turn a profit through avenues that don’t allow the government/elites to get their cut. We have liberty here, but things have to stay within reason. I like it here, America is a perfect fit for me, it may not be for others. I see it as if a person doesn’t ruffle too many feathers, doesn’t go against the machine, and follows what the majority views as tolerable behavior, one could live their entire life happily as a cross dressing communist with a flamethrower and a 55 gallon drum of LSD, as long as they stay in line. That’s the beauty of our great country.

press1's picture

I got Covid badly 4 months ago - its still around over here. 2.5 weeks I had it, the cough lingered 4 weeks though.

Milfpounder's picture

No, covid literally went away the day that Russia invaded Ukraine. It was literally like a light switch. The entire world was at once fixated on the new war and covid was an afterthought. I remember every once in a while you would hear about some psycho nut job trying to get the focus back on covid, but didn't happen. We were bamboozled by our government. I feel bad for all the people that fell for it and got the vaccines

Bill1976's picture

It’s crazy people believe everything the news tells them. When people say my article saying I was a white supremecist that pulls guns on women and children everybody commented on it like I was guilty. Lucky I had a lot of people defending me. Lucky I have a dash camera. They made the whole thing up and the reporter conspired knowing she was making up a. Lie. Never trust the media

sandman3698's picture

It's funny that people think it's only one way.

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eighty7's picture

In all the videos and pictures of the shooter running away from the college he doesn't have the rifle with him. So did he take it apart, put it in his pants, then he reassembled it and left it in the woods for the police to find? This is retarded.

This doesn't even come apart, how did he shove it in his pants.

https://youtu.be/V_-sg0DVuFs?si=G1qjSBzpREsh8HTh

Bill1976's picture

Looks like the Ruger I wanted to buy from my neighbor

Pale's picture

It is a Mauser action on a synthetic stock. Criterion? I think is the brand. They take old mausers and clean them up and put them on a Remington style stock. And anyone saying he didn't have the gun when jumped off the roof is blind, put it on full screen you can see it is a gun wrapped in the towel. The in scripted bullets story seems to be on thin ice however. The whole fucking thing is crazy and no matter whether he was a Groyper or a leftist he was intentionally trying to ignite civil war. Not only is he an Assassin he is a agent provocateur, traitor to our Great Nation.

eighty7's picture

Does it look like he had that rifle in his pants?

Bill1976's picture

That man wouldn’t shoot anybody. He is a hunter though. Hes always giving me elk and deer

sandman3698's picture

I pretty much live in the assumption that if the TV is on, I'm being lied to.

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Petecastiglione's picture

What’s the consensus here guys? Do you think the guy they have is really the killer? My take is if he is indeed the one who pulled the trigger, which very well may be, he DEFINITELY did not do this all on his own. It can’t be that simple

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Pale's picture

Like Drexyl Ocamm's razor is nearly always the actual case. But what is certain is now that it has happened it is being used to incite and definitely has the country at each others throats. I don't think enough people realize how ugly this could go.

Drexyl's picture

There’s so many possibilities, but I try to follow Occam’s razor in most of the news I digest. Was it an Israeli plot, or CIA, Russian or Chinese maybe? Is Mossad more probable than KGB, probably? At the end of the day, without adding unnecessary entities, is it possible an early 20’s nut job climbed on top of a roof and squeezed off a very easy shot that basically anyone could make after dialing in with one magazine of ammo? It’s absolutely possible. Think about how not hard it would be to eliminate anyone, it’s actually quite easy. The main reason I don’t think any professional actors were involved is the simplicity of it. He climbed a ladder while carrying a rifle, shot his target, then literally jumped off of a fucking roof and ran away on foot. Not exactly a well thought out hit. If you knew where someone was going to be a week in advance, how hard would a vantage point a couple hundred yards away be to find? This event is missing the intricacies that a skilled person would consider.

Banjokid2020's picture

As grotesque as it sounds, I don't think a "professional" would've been aiming for the neck. More than likely center mass, maybe head. And I don't think a "professional" would be off 8" at 200 yards.
Just sad and crazy that no one knows what to believe anymore. Anything and everything sounds believable and not too crazy. Unfortunately I think that's exactly where they want us, not knowing or trusting anything

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Darkhorse777's picture

I heard he had a chest plate and the bullet fragmented causing a severe neck wound dieing almost instantly

Pale's picture

I personally think he took the neck shot because Charlie's head may not have been completely visible under the canopy. Just a thought anyway. I have heard several different ranges , everything from 100yds to 260yds. Any half way confident shooter with that rifle it would be a chip shot. He also likely had a good handle on how far the shot was going to be and was likely zeroed in at around 200yds knowing that was his shot. That Mauser rifle action and barrel are renowned for a reason. I can do 300yds all day with my 14.5' AR with the 5.56, with my bolt action 22-250 500yds is not difficult and my 7mm mag, hell, I have never even shot it beyond 450yds but I know it would easily reach 1000yds. A thousand yard shot tho would take me doing ballistic dope and very good optics. My 22-250 has a scope on it that would have a decent chance. Of course you guys familiar with guns and optics also know these days you can buy laser range finding scopes that automatically adjust the crosshairs to the lasered range. They are super fucking cool, mostly thermal models I think.

Pumped_'s picture

A professional would have worn a $2 mask so the dad wouldn't recognize and a professional would have had a car nearby instead of jump and run. Professional wouldn't have left palm print a wrote on bullets or weapon just to throw in woods. Just my opinion

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Pale's picture

I do not believe he was a professional either but I do believe he has a lot of experience shooting and likely knows more than many people are giving him credit for. He obviously was able stay cool in a very high anxiety environment. Let alone controlling his breathing and ultimately smoothly pulled the trigger taking the life of another human being. He quite likely is a sociopath or on some part of the mental spectrum. I think you would have to be to do what he did. He also only took one shot, I am sure most you know this but a single shot is much harder to audibly locate. 2 or more we can naturally cue right in. Oh and he evaded arrest and who knows how close they were to actually catching him before his dad turned hi in?

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irongame427's picture

Right. On a range under no pressure that’s an easy shot, especially with a warm barrel, but even cold it’s not hard. But on top of a roof shooting to kill someone and knowing you have to make a quick escape after you gotta imagine he was still very nervous, heart thumping, adrenaline pumping. That makes that 200 yard shot exponentially harder. Unless he was a complete sociopath in which case maybe he wasn’t nervous at all. But he doesn’t really seem like a sociopath.

press1's picture

The Sociopaths I have known always get nervous although they try to hide it, I would say the guy is more likely a psychopath to be honest. Those are the more cold and calculating type that would assasinate someone. Sociopaths love an audience more.

hard_gains's picture

It's hard to say. I think it's very reasonable to think there's more to the story. I think once they dive into his personal life they should find out if he was alone or not.

The guy is young. He told on himself which quickly led to his arrest. I highly doubt this fucking moron will stay quite about his motive or if there were other parties involved. But if this fuck surprising dies in custody then I will absolutely think this guy was a patsy.

Bill1976's picture

Well lots of people getting fired for celebrating his death. I see them freaking out on your tube

Milfpounder's picture

You see that big fat mama in office depot refusing to print "political propaganda" for a Charlie Kirk vigil?

Bill1976's picture

I don’t see that one. I’ll look for it. Check out the video pale posted on top of this thread. It’s interesting