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I BELIEVE IN LIVE BY THE SWORD , DIE BY THE SWORD BUT THIS GUY DID NOT LIVE BY THE SWORD AT ALL
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I BELIEVE IN LIVE BY THE SWORD , DIE BY THE SWORD BUT THIS GUY DID NOT LIVE BY THE SWORD AT ALL
Damn i couldnt have summed it up better
Who will fire you from your job if you do not worship at his alter? Come on brother, open your eyes.
Well the past 5 years ones side has shown their true colors and lost the American people like they had before. Republicans have always consistently been the same way. You either love them or hate them but they have shown their teeth from day 1. Never a fake smile with fangs behind them lips. The democrat is the fox that is crafty and sly. The Republican is a wolf that cant hide its snarl. Both prey on the weakest and slowest animal of the pack. I am neither, just a God fearing conservative who unfortunately has to vote closer to my values who at this time is the Republican party.
I have no problem with that even if I do not agree with your synopsis. You are an American an entitled to vote as you will
Exactly
This goes up to 2020.
I’ll hold onto a little dignity and not insult the values of this forum by not posting some true statistics, from FBI and NIH, you should thank me.
Did you get this from Whoopy Goldberg? This some bullshit.
No, the whole cast of the view there brilliant minds all came together one night and collect the information from cnn.
Meeting of the brilliant minds
Ranger3252Let me make a spread sheet at work in the AM, about as good as this one. Toilet paper.
Crap in crap out. You seriously think the ADL is a trusted source? I guess Pelosi, Schiff and Comey are good sources as well.
Wasn’t ADL, was Criminology, Criminal Justice, Law & Society.
https://ccjls.scholasticahq.com/article/26973-far-left-versus-far-right-...
Try going beyond the click bait and headlines and apply some critical thinking.
@Balrog Research on the field of criminology indicates that it is predominantly composed of left-leaning individuals.
This is a study posted for peer review. It doesn't indicate that it has been widely accepted by any peer.
It is written by a Celinet Duran who got her degree at John Jay, a liberal arts college in New York that is considered to be left leaning. She is a visiting "scholar" at Oswego University, also a left leaning institution.
You should read the reports limitations on page 12.
In short, you have no idea how her liberal bias influenced the report. Particularly if she's trying to impress liberal professors in getting her doctorate.
I find it interesting that her report ended where the Floyd riots began. As she's combing through the data was an argument with a conservative listed as hate speech and violence while the left burning down an Arby's free speech?
Show me an AI report on the entirety of the ECDB database where she culled her information. One that is unbiased and doesn't cherry pick a date block that favors her narrative.
Post a link
Should we have Trump get us a guy to get us the numbers????
How about just center, unbiased and trustworthy platform. Or, something from Ground News that will analyze bias and give you sources and rate how factual the source is and their bias.
Ranger3252Was Trump the target of two assassination attempts? Sounds like this is something you’re enjoying. Good luck on your ban from this forum. Lots of hate from this one,
Thomas Crooks was a registered Republican.
Ryan Routh supposedly voted for Trump in 2016.
And this is why you and your news sources can't be trusted. I suggest you check out Ground news.
Paints a different picture now doesn't it?
Hardly MAGA now is he. See how you take a kernel of truth and twist it to try and fit your narrative? Both these men were radicalized nut jobs. Not conservative, and certainly not MAGA.
The first sentence you posted about Crooks states he was a registered Republican. So you proved my point.
And I said Routh voted for Trump in 2016. I never said MAGA. See how you added a bunch of shit to it to try and spin it to make it something that it’s not? He voted for Trump and then realized trumps a POS and doubled back. “Changed his affiliation to ‘unaffiliated’ 2 DECADES AGO. “ so quick math Greg, what was more recent? 2016 or 20 years ago????
You attempt to ignore any association with Republicans because a guy was a dem 20 years ago or a kid donated to a democrat organization ($15)
MAGAs aren’t even MAGA. Their thoughts, beliefs, and opinions change with the wind. You got conned by a con man.
Dude your point was his political views matched his
Voter registration. I'm Registered Republican, I consider myself to be a constitutionalist or a liberation. I haven't changed my registration in over 25 years. Young people change their political views as the get older, often starting out liberal. He registered as his dad probably did and never changed it.
But if you are on such flimsy ground you need this "gatchya" take it.
Rough supported Trump but it doesn't say he voted for him. He was basically an independent for 20 years. You know, unaffiliated. A lot of people supported Trump before he got into politics.
So let me mansplain Routh. He was a Democrat that became an independent during the Bush years after 911 probably because he liked the war and felt more "hawkish" than his fellow democrats. Trump was an icon, a "cause célèbre". When Trump tossed his hat into the political ring he returned to his leftist views and criticized Trump.
Not hard to figure out if you know how to read.
What you’re registered as is irrelevant and many times is influenced by your parents. My MIL is a registered dem and has voted republican in every election. Her dad took her to get registered at 18 and he’s was dem. My mom registered as a republican when my grandpa took her at 18. She’s was a “swing voter” for decades.
Who did Thomas Cooke donate money too? Where he’s putting his money is probably a much better indication of his political affiliation. Oh that’s right, left wing progressive groups…
I donated to republicans federally until the war in Iraq lie. And even up until recently I still donated to local republicans. I have been a registered independent for many years now, at least ten. My point is this voter registration litmus test really doesn't tell us much about anything
Donate $15 in 2021 when he was 17.
Registered as a Republican in 2018.
$15 is like 40% of a 17 year olds net worth. Any donation from a 17 year old is unusual.
With a response like that there’s nothing that I could show you that you’d believe. People commit crimes with a myriad of political, religious, social economical backgrounds.
The point I’m trying to make is that the idea of half the country vs the other half is a dangerous and scary one. We the people don’t win. The elites do.
Let be clear. I don’t condone political violence or any other violence for that matter. I don’t consider self defense violence. It’s sad when people are needlessly hurt or killed.
I understand what you’re saying and I agree with you to a point. The difference is, we’re living at a time where rational people will share their condolences with Charlie’s family despite their political views where an overwhelming amount of far leftist are publicly condoning the shooting even celebrating. We’re also living in a time where the media is openly selective on their coverage based on the race or political alignment. For example, there was virtually no coverage on the man who drove into the Christmas parade 4 years ago and wouldn’t reveal the identity of the suspect. Why? Also, I’m a person who believes George Floyd’s death was unjust and was subject to police brutality. I shut down those who say but he died of an “overdose” or he was a criminal followed by statistical analysis of particular racial groups committing crime. There’s right and wrong. Anyone who praises the death of Kirk is beyond saving at this point and perhaps it is a plot of these elitists but they’ve entered the void of no return. I’ll go as far to say, I don’t think a Gay Boomer liberal killed him. Whoever did, was a military trained sniper.
And now take walk down twitter lane and look at all the videos of people who identify as right saying they are going to war, or begging trump to give them the green light to purge the liberals. And even our own presidents words are gasoline on the fire. And while you are looking see how many people you can find on the left speaking as recklessly. Sure there were quite a few left people that were completely callous about Charlie Kirk, but callousness is not actively calling for violence. All of these people on both sides need to take a big step back and ask themselves how they got here to this level of crazy and cruel
Agreed. All the riots, burning and looting that has gone on since Kirks assassination has got to stop! Worse than the Floyd riots! Absolutely horrendous! Those MAGA fascists think they are the Knights Templar saving the promised land.
...oh wait, never mind, im thinking of a Monti Python skit.
The left is violence. The right is symbolic. Conservatives are, well, conservative. They will fight back by becoming a million Charlie Kirks.
I guess they only riot when they lose elections. But seriously Greg, these riots you speak of, you imply they are everywhere. When both know that simply isn't true. We also know there is a segment of American population that has done without question the most rioting and to call them leftist or democrats is disingenuous at best. Even regular black folks are tired of it, hence the term black fatigue, I don't hate trumpers anymore than I hate black people, I don't jews but I hate what zionists are doing. I don't hate muslims I hate islamic terrorrsts. I don't hate russians, I hate their leader. Surely you can see my point. this constant blaming the many for the failing of the few and pulling out the same card everytime one gets backed into a tight spot in a conversation is beneath a man of your intellect. Love you brother and it is about my bedtime tonight. Last night was a late one lol
I’m with you on a lot of this too. People should not be praising this needless killing. That’s a sick mentality to have.
There's a difference between crime and violence that have no connection with political ideology. And political assassination attempts at republican senate ball games, political rallies, golf courses, school campus open mic debates etc.
And keep on dancing away from anything the right has done. Is it that hard for you to accept the right has plenty of dangerous nuts and have committed many atrocities as well? BTW I think you know Kirks killer was likely a Groyper, the evidence gets stronger by the hour. Turn off fox news, News Max and four chan brother
His killer was a radicalized leftist. Don't think you can make claim that he came from a wholesome Mormon family with conservative, Trump supporting Republicans.
Most every young adult is idealistic and starts out liberal -including myself.
My farther was catholic and a lifelong republican. I registered Republican at 18 but voted Democrat.
My father had 6 kids. Half are far right bonkers progressives. The other half are republican.
Half of us go to church, the other half does not.
We can judge the shooter on his actions and the company he kept. But that's not a good look for the left. Hence, the narrative the assassin was a conservative.
The same BS the left is trying to push with both of the Trump would be assassins.
I also look at dozens of news sources using the Ground news app with a paid subscription I read left, right, and center news. I see the blind spots those who only read within their bubble don't see.
You however claim to be a self thinker but on more than one post parroted every leftist trope.
And you do the same even more on with the right narrative. So perhaps we both have blindspots. And again you are overlooking the most obvious. The kid was raised mormon in Utah buy a republican family and so far there is far more likelihood he is a Groyper. But in all seriousness it is obvious to me even if he got in front of a microphone and told you he killed Charlie because he wasn't right enough you would immediately say the leftist told him to say that. So we are at an impasse (sadly)
I posted elsewhere. I came from a military family, parents were life long Republicans as their parents were. Raised catholic. Six kids.
We are not the same. 3 kids are not left or liberal. They are extreme progressives. The other 3 are center right to far right.
The shooter is not affiliated with any party. I.e., he never voted. He was A-political.
He lived with a trans man. (You can guess, like my trans kid, he was not a fan of kirks.)
Robinson didn't have to have a relationship with his roommate friend but was probably empathetic. Robinson was part of a gaming social group with a lot of anti Kirk comments on the Discord app they used.
Robinson's family said he had recently become more political and expressed dislike for Charlie Kirk's views during a dinner conversation. That Charlie Kirk was "full of hate and spreading hate."
It's disingenuous to say the shooter was his father's son. Clearly there were influences in his life that gave him views separate from his father's and his upbringing. He also had stopped practicing his Mormon faith years ago. You are glomming onto the thinnest leftist talking point.
Ranger3252You can’t talk sense into these people. People are celebrating this on the left. It’s so disgusting. This girl I’m seeing said it best. “Liberals are not men and a real man can’t be a liberal.” How many right wing riots have their been, it’s the left always the left, but we will tolerate them as usual. Doesn’t fit their narrative just like my former military friend Daniel Penny. Tried to convict him of murder, but crickets when the Ukrainian refugee gets stuck in the neck in the liberal city of Charlotte. A complete shit hole. People stood there and watched like the liberal cunts they are. I know most on this board would have taken some type of intervention, unless you were buried in your tik toks.
You see that dude on MSNBC basically say it was warranted?
Yeah man, he basically said he had It coming. Takes a real piece of shit to say something like that about a law abiding young man with a young family - who were present when it happened no less. Lefty media is absolutely outrageous.
Truly asinine to the fullest extent
Did you see the dude on MSMBC saying it might have been friendly fire? One of his supporters shooting his gun off in celebration. Fucking morons. Idk how these people got jobs on TV.
Yup, saw that too. I wish they could just shut down such an evil cesspool of a “news channel”. It’s like, past politics at a certain point. What transpired today should be looked at as an act of evil regardless of your political views.
His name is Matt Dowd and they fired his ass over those comments on Charlie! Good riddance.
The left absolutely eats that shit up. Its status quo for the libs to live in an alternate reality full of outrageous conspiracy theories, boys pretending to get pregnant and trying to find a way to make themselves the victims of everything imaginable.
They legit strive to make this confusing world way more confusing.
I’m gonna bow out of this. I respect a lot of you dudes on here. I just hate seeing how divided the US has come. That’s all.