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+ 10 RIP CHARLIE KIRK
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I BELIEVE IN LIVE BY THE SWORD , DIE BY THE SWORD BUT THIS GUY DID NOT LIVE BY THE SWORD AT ALL
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I BELIEVE IN LIVE BY THE SWORD , DIE BY THE SWORD BUT THIS GUY DID NOT LIVE BY THE SWORD AT ALL
I think that was just the kinetic energy moving his shirt around before round made impact. Just my opinion, I’m not a forensic guy
You’re right. Does he typically wear one at these events?
I think a lot of the guy use them more than we realize. Im sure from now on more people are going to be using plates and vests. People already tried twice to kill Nick Fuentes. And the second guy killed like 6 people the same day and had a shootout with thr police. So you know he meant business.
Damn. He might have survived if the bullet deflected the other way. Although the assassin definitely was a pro, so if the first one missed he probably would have sent another.
Or if he had used ceramic plates
I use AR500, but they’re wrapped in many layers of gorilla tape to catch spall and fragments. Something about the protection being able to take multiple 7.62 strikes and hold up is comforting.
No death of a public figure has ever rocked me to my core like this. It’s absolutely devastating. I feel so bad for his wife and his 2 young kids. All the moments hes going to miss now.
It’s completely shocking, but not surprising. What did we think was going to happen when the media and the majority of the left wing eco system spend a decade calling him a fascist or Hitler? Obviously someone’s going to kill Hitler because that’s what you should do if you believe someone as bad as Hitler is out there. This is direct result of the lefts lies and inflamed rhetoric the last 10 years. Same reason people kept trying to kill trump. And it so disgusting to see people celebrating it. Soulless worthless human beings.
Me too, I have never been this devastated by a death of any figure. Ever. It feels unreal. Cowardly as it gets plus he held no congressional power, not that anyone should be a target but wouldn’t it make sense people who actually pass bills would be targeted? Like an activist… really??? Cuz he TALKED RESPECTFULLY to college kids?
Yeah but question is who did it?
This was obviously a professional hit so which affiliate did it? Could be left or right?
Remember Thomas Crooks was a republican who tried to take out the Don.
Jrihard89Idk if it was a pro.. 200 yards ain’t shit. He was aiming for the chest. Pretty easy shot with a 6.5
The fact that he/she is still at large says a lot too. Who knows but hope it gets brought to justice either way.
They’ve now tracked his movements into campus at 1152am through the building and up the stairwell and into the roof top and then back off campus after the shooting. I heard somewhere they determined it was younger college aged male. And they found the gun. So luckily this doesn’t sound like a professional hitman that there would be little chance of finding.
A memo from the ATF was leaked saying the rounds they recovered had transgender and anti-fascist statements written on them. Sounding more and more like we expected, a left wing trans radical.
I thought its they/them?
I like to say it.... like the Stephen King movie.
Oh I'm sure it is. .
It definitely wasn’t some amateur who just picked up a gun yesterday. It was a person who’s spent some time behind a scope and knew how to shoot. 200 yards is not an easy shot for someone new to this.
Let alone with one shot fired. Anyone amateur shooting with nerves would likely dump at least a few rounds, but one shot and it was over...
Not necessarily. I've shot and owned many, many AR's since a teenager and still frequent the range monthly. Recently took my tiny Asian wife shooting for the first time in her life and she was smacking 325 yard steel hog targets using a 13" barrel and only a red dot and x3 magnifier. 200 yards with a 16" rifle and basic x6 scope is nearly shooting fish in a barrel after a few mags of practice. And I'm assuming they were aiming for a headshot, which ended up at the neck, says they didn't account for trajectory drop at 200yds, which a "professional" would've accounted for. +400 yds is where skill and experience really factor in with rifles. But no one knows. Just my thoughts thinking outloud.
But after having our first kid this past year, this was the first time in my life I shed some tears for a complete stranger. Can't stop thinking about his poor kids. Fucking makes me so angry.
He's watched the John wick series to many times let him make it. I bet money he couldn't hit a coke can 10 yards away with a pistol first shot.
That's not a dig bro I'm being realistic.
People think shooting a target is so easy.
Hey fellas. Seeing some comments about fuck the left and fuck liberals. Remember that’s the kind of division politicians want. It allows them to create and prey on falsehoods that scare people. In the end we’re all human and 99% of us just want to live our lives being left alone.
Same snake 2 heads if ppl think our government is for us they are very mistaken...
I just chose the side that aligns with my values that being conservative. Do I vote no bc I don't think our votes even matter plus I can't even if I wanted to lol.
Deep state call me crazy idc there is more at work here...
Yup. AI is already sentient. Divide and control is rolling out. It will intensify, right or left. Same side of the same coin.
That's some scary shit.
Some good things will come of it like cures for cancer and alzheimers. But yeah shits gonna get weird.
Bro i knew there was something about you.
Politics is all about dividing people into different "classes" and especially racial or ethnic groups.
Not only do they want turmoil along the classes. They want turmoil within the classes along the diff religions, ethnicity, cultures. Otherwise people will come together and start getting ideas. About how free we really are. We live in a few country? But someone tells me what i can and can't do. We live in a few country but someone says what i can drink when and where, we live in a free country but someone says what i can and can't put into my body??
If i don't listen i go to prison where they make me feel low and like shit, just like the slave i am. No where in the 10 commandments does it say for man to do Gods will and punish.
If your not Anglo Saxon protestant, your nothing but a worker. You can be the worker who tells other rootless what to do. Either way your gonna give your life for fund to survive. While they sit back and have more money than any of us can ever comprehend, doing absolutely nothing. Sending our sons and brothers and cousins and fathers to war when they aren't getting the deal they want to make more money on the other side of the world.
And your off to die for your country for "freedom" at the age of 17. But you can't buy tobacco alcohol or Marijuana if your state sells it. Just like someone said they're sending children to fight their wars. Because they're impressionable and live off hormonal impulses.
That's my bit.
Whatever anyone else believes God bless them. And i hope everything works out for them how they really would like it too.
To me it doesn't matter either way it'll all have the same outcome in the end. We all end up in the same place no matter what you have or do in this life.
Lotta illegal mexicans here working for anglo saxon white boy for pennies on the dollar but whatever...its a job
My man Mikey laying it down.
The system emerges somewhat like Hegel described in his Master Slave Dialectic followed by Marx and Neitzche
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“The Master-Slave Dialectic is a key philosophical concept from G.W.F. Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit, describing how two self-consciousnesses encounter each other in a struggle for recognition. The victor becomes the master, the vanquished the slave, but true self-consciousness is ultimately achieved by the slave, who finds selfhood through their labor on the world and their own fear of death, while the master's unearned status leaves their self-consciousness unfulfilled. “
Somewhere in between Marx and Neitzche is the right answer. We have to exceed beyond the point of exploiting others by manipulation or force. Marx viewed the laborer as the only source of currency that should be valued.
Ranger3252Except we don’t go around shooting everyone, huge difference. So, yes they can fuck off. Doesn’t mean I’m going to go out and commit violent acts against anyone. That’s the difference
Plenty of shootings and other acts of violence carried out by people with right wing political ideologies.
Bullshit
Prove it.
You need a list Greg? We don't know who carried out this shooting yet. But to think for a second the left owns assassinations is ridiculous. Zealots on both sides have been assassinating since the founding of our country. Also who benefits the most from Charlie Kirk being killed? Answer that honestly if you dare bro. Anyway, it is a sad time in America and the people that want us divided and hating each other are in control. I love you bro no matter our political differences. I have enough guns and ammo to arm my entire neighborhood but will never take up arms against my fellow Americans unless it is in defense.
Stay within the context of the conversation. I acknowledge bad things happen from people from all walks of life.
Who benefits the most from Charlie's assassination? How about the globalist movement run by those unelected powers that run the world let's start with the Fed and work our way up to Backrock and further to the IMF.
The populist, nationalist movement in the US is a major threat to the 1984 neo-marxist movement trying to take hold. We were one election away from becoming Canada. And worse, the EU.
Now ask yourself who are the foot soldiers for the socialist, globalist movement? Who wants open borders? Who wants a government nanny state? Who wants to destroy family and religious values? Who wants to foment a racial divide? Promote DEI? Tear down our American values? Restrict free speech?
The democratic party has left you behind my friend. It was hijacked.
I was never a democrat but I am no longer republican either. But I am no fool and can see corruption a mile away and how you can ignore it baffles me bro. But I digress. Besides these mystery globalist Israel and trump himself are the ones that benefitted from his Assassination not the dems in any way shape or form. But strangely enough they still haven't caught the shooter. Time will tell, or not.
Trump? Trump capitalized on Charlie's conservative outreach to young voter's he's worth more to Trump alive than dead. You'll have to explain your "logic" on that.
I can hold conservative, constitutional values without being a partisan just like you. It is quite clear which party is closer to my orientation. Even the democrats acknowledge their party has been lost to the extreme left. And it is clear who is destroying the moral fabric of your country.
This isn't about Democrats and Republicans. It's about the globalist wolves hiding in the American flock. It's about bringing back agreeable disagreement, compromise, collaboration, respect, and pride in self, God, and country. Everything Charlie Kirk stood for.
I am not big on the whole globalist thing Greg but I respect you and I respect your beliefs. I am with you except for the god stuff, but I respect your belief in whatever you choose. I trust you respect mine as well.
The reason why trump benefits is in multiple ways but the biggest is this helps him amongst the maga and even the maga light who are realizing he is taking full advantage of this term since he learned much last time. Trump has made roughly 5 billion since taking office including a jet from Qatar and shitcoins which can easily be used to funnel money to him from foreign entities. But back to the reason he benefits most, he knows his polling is in the gutter and really wants to declare martial law before teh midterms because if he loses the house and senate he will be impeached and convicted this time. Kirk being killed also distracts from the epstein stuff (which if I recall you were all about back in the day). But the main thing is he can demonize all democrats even tho there is zero evidence they had anything at all to do with this (so far). Not only that but Kirk was on the whole Israel thing and Bibi has something on trump because he keeps going along with the bullshit he is doing. I could go on but it has been a long day and I am exhausted.
But the old adage is still true bro, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Good night fellas, perhaps tomorrow I will check in again if time permits. Anyway, I miss you guys and I wish you all well.
I guess time will tell.
You only need to look at Canada and the truckers strike, the EU and their clamp down on free speech and the platform Harris was running on. Then look back in history to see the same pattern at the beginning of every Marxist, socialist, communist, fascist movements.
You deny that but play out the lefts same narrative on the national level. Trump is the oligarch that must be stopped for the social good of the people! Equity, not equality. Government is the highest authority and your rights come from it.
Dude, take a backpacking trip into the mountains and take some shrooms. You need a reset. Meditate on these words: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
I would say Nepal is a great current benchmark, people are exhausted. This happens in every regime at some point, throughout recorded history. The Greeks, Romans, Scottish, French, and what we’re seeing now. Revolt will appear on American soil, possibly much sooner than we think. Our current state simply isn’t sustainable. Morals have been lost, after moral collapse comes societal, after societal collapse comes government, after that the pieces that are left are collected and put back together with instructions learned from the past. It’s just our time to go through it.
btw socialist, communist are not the same nor is fascism. These are all different ideas. This time for real goodnight lol
That's my point. All socialist systems where a central government is the highest power where your rights as an individual comes from that. What is good and truth is mandated by that government.
The principalities and power of a king is ordained. The concept of a power greater than man. Your self sovereignty is also from a power higher than man. If not, where does the authority of your claim to self sovereignty lie?
All governments that set man up as the highest moral authority have failed. They all come to power in the same way.
Our constitutional Republic was founded on a Judeo-Christian moral tradition Jefferson was not a Christian but a deist.
Without the concept of a higher power the preamble of the Declaration of Independence is meaningless. You have no Self sovereignty. And our government contract will be broken.
How many religious governments have failed Greg? BTW the Roman Empire is still the longest lasting that we know of. But you are looking through glasses that are only going back a fraction of human history. If the Christian god is real I think it is safe to say he abandoned Christians and left his word to be manipulated by man.
You are a free man and I do not begrudge your beliefs.
Rome was a religious government. Constantine legalized Christianity in the mid 300's and it became the official religion of Rome by the 380's
All early Pharoah's emperors and kings were gods or of a god.
Kings were ordained in the church to legitimize their rule through the "divine right of kings," a doctrine that asserted their authority came directly from God. This made the monarch accountable only to God, not to any earthly power, and made rebellion a sin.
I'm saying these things NOT as a full account of history but in the context of Charlie Kirks message rooted in a moral truth. Not "subjective truth".
All governments that held itself as the highest authority are/were dystopian and historically short lived. Empires like Rome fell with cultural abhesion and moral decline as we are seeing in the western world today.
I'm not making a religious argument. I'm making a statement of fact. Our country was founded on a moral authority from a higher power than the king. The Constitution contractually makes "we the people" Self Sovereign through invocation of that higher power.
Like it or not even you appeal to a self guiding moral good born from the Judeo-christian heritage you were born into. The American culture you embody. You draw upon that higher power whether or not you choose to believe in it or not. It is written in your heart and on your mind.
Face it dude, you are a spiritual being expressing agape love. That's the purist expression of God. Religion is not required.
I do get what you are saying I think you and I just look at it through a different filter. Either way Greg please watch that video I shared. It was actually sent to me by one of my trump voter friends first thing this morning. I think a great many Americans need to see it and hopefully hear it.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16UH1FPfrR/
Greg I did make it 4 minutes in, she was already skating pretty thin but then jumped the shark with the same old tired BS about kids being indoctrinated into hating our country, etc on college campuses. That is a non-starter with me. But I may still try and finish it. I promise you the video I put up is not trying to steer with hyperbole in any way. Some people really do want to burn this country or at least half of the people down and the hatred or indoctrination may be impossible to break in them. I don't think you are one of them. But violence is the end of politics. I know the thought of a shooting war against other Americans terrifies me to my core and unlike most I am far more prepared to do whatever I need to do to defend my family. But who would actually be my enemy? My left wing friends or my right wing friends? Think about the people in your life and in particular those that are more left than you. In the not so distant future dystopia are you prepared to strike them down? Because that is the road we are on Brother
There's nothing that I need to do or those on the right except to take care of their own, lead by example and watch the progressives implode.
The majority of us, and I count you as one of them can honor a different opinion and work towards consensus and compromise. Neither side of the sane majority want to live on a vacuum from ideas. Yin needs Yang. It fosters innovation.
The extremists on both sides see themselves as righteous; the other side as Fascists. They are the loudest voice but the smallest group. Probably not even 10% of the population.
Social media algorithms are hyper magnifying the bubbles they are in. As soon as they, "Turn on, tune in, and drop out" (as we did in the 60's and 70's) the masses will see the delusion for what it is.
Charlie Kirk exemplifies reasoned debate, core values: family, God, and country, and respect for those who don't think like you.
Which I agree. But thanks to the social media the extremist numbers have multiplied. And the hands on the controls are encouraging it
They are getting louder as they are getting smaller. They are becoming less relevant and more desperate. The curtain has been lifted and their old tactics are not working.
This has been a long term strategy that started in the 60's. And everything is falling apart for them.
You forget I have grown shrooms and made/used DMT. I love you bro but the creator stuff is fallacy. We have been here longer than the god stuff. But again, you know I respect you and this conversation is the way it should be instead of bullets.
And there is no mountains in Michigan. Maybe next trip to Cali or Puerto Vallarta lol