posted Fri, 11/06/2015 - 22:05
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Cant find my post about refugee crisis in EU and whats not being told about it.
So im opening a new one.
Hopefully this one wont get erased if that was the case.
If someone agrees and feels the same way feel free to post links here also, just post civilized one`s please.
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Uh oh, Anonymous has keyed in on Hilary... We do not forgive and we do not forget.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTMaIX_JPE4
StevebHave you ever seen the Clinton Chronicles? Her crimes are already well known and out in the open. Anonymous can't get her in trouble because the US State Department refuses to prosecute her, she's above the law now. The FBI is doing whatever it can to bust her but they are blocked by Loretta Lynch on Obama's orders.
StevebThere is no such thing as a "Moderate Rebel". They are all ISIS and other terrorist groups.
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/the-myth-of-the-secular-pro-demo...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/world/middleeast/islamist-rebels-gains...
USA giving weapons to ISIS
http://www.janes.com/article/59374/us-arms-shipment-to-syrian-rebels-det...
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/04/us-delivers-3000-tons-of-weapons-an...
Я ваш обработчик Теперь товарищ пожалуйста ждет дальнейших инструкций .
StevebВаш президент является гомосексуалистом арабских государств
Checkmate
Он ваш президент тоже!
Not so fast Comrade
StevebКозырь 2016
LMAO! I don't even need to translate that. It isn't going to happen bro.
StevebThe good thing about this election is that this process is being exposed as a fraud even more than ever. More people by a lot are voting for Bernie and yet Hillary gets way more Delegates. Same for Trump. More Republican votes are going his way but delegates still go to Cruz. It's very fixed.
Yes, I am super pissed about super delegates and when the GOP sticks it to Trump that will also be bullshit , even if I do not blame them one bit on the Trump front. If Bernie wins the regular delegate count (and it is starting to look like he will) many of the superdelegates will jump ship on Clinton. If they give her the nod when he won it will hurt their party terribly and they know it. So I have a feeling that just like with Obama they will leave her as a sacrifice at the alter.
I have to agree 100%.
On a side note, I've tried here and there to see how many attempts it would take to call out 5 consecutive coin tosses. I got bored after about 20 tries. I never did succeed.
I am thinking of changing your name to Comrade Steve..
Stevebhttp://laissez-fairerepublic.com/tenplanks.html
What's funny is that the US follows more of the ten planks of communism than Russia does now. So yes USA is currently more communist than Russia. I don't like communism. This has nothing to do with Putin. My point is the West has been behind a lot of terrorism by radical Muslims since even before Lawrence of Arabia.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11656043/My-life...
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2015/04/91092time-magazine-invaded-by-kremlin-t...
Jokes aside, i wonder how far has this reached, Newsweek for instance relied only on 2 pro-putin supporters for this article; http://europe.newsweek.com/finish-military-preparing-900000-reservists-c...
They released it originally without any questions as these two traitors presented themselves as some kind of experts.
That is why you have to question everything these days, on both sides. The media for the most part is operating with an agenda or pushing their own propaganda.
A friend of mine did her degree in journalism and was tought this quote "if it bleeds it reads". That's as much as I really want to get involved with this entire discussion. This one is something I get very ramped up about.
StevebRefugee threatens to throw baby at Greek police
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WY5eYg__LA
Come on guys, stop watching the news. Haven't you ever heard of operation mockingbird? CIA is the real terrorist.
Stevebhttps://www.rt.com/news/338155-greek-farmer-plows-tractor/
Stevebhttp://louderwithcrowder.com/what-wh-censors-french-president-from-calli...
Democrats defending terrorists again
RustyhookerAny updates on murica and refugees? Last news I read, many landed in texas. Also, an isis shootout in texas?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/04/us/garland-mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/
This was awesome. They showed up with rifles and body armor and got a haircut with a .45. Sorry bastards didn't kill a single person. The swat team just happened to be nearby, haha. I heard the local authorities got word that they were likely to attack the event and were waiting for them. Moral of the story- don't fuck with Texas!
RustyhookerI've thought about moving there many times. Friends there love the state. "Haircut"...haha!
StevebIn Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327...
The liberals are already blaming Trump and he's not even president yet. Guess 8 years of blaming Bush is finally winding down?
RustyhookerIt will be bushes fault for the next 8. Grasping yet more straws on cause and effect.
Here's a funny for ya.
http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/was-this-guy-in-a-triumph-shirt-really-...
Bush will always be at fault for Iraq. We were lied to as a nation and as a world, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld. Cost our nation trillions of dollars but even worse thousands of American and coalition lives. Are you okay with that Rusty?
RustyhookerOk with the fact we were attacked and we responded appropriately. Definitely! President can't start a war. There's still legalities.
RustyhookerHad the war been completed without red tape, we wouldn't be seeing europe in its current state of distress. And guaranteed it will be here as well. Thanks to the lame duck pacification attempts by shalaka shazam nobama, reid and pelozi. Kissing ass surely allowed this to escalate.
And nato, thats a joke as well. We put more money into nato than any country on earth to then have to politely ask permission. Meanwhile nato does crap other than written threats with no follow thru.
Obviously you are not as schooled on what happened as you proclaim,lol. Osama Bin Laden was in Afghanistan. We actually gave the Taliban a chance to turn him over which they refused, so we legitimately attacked. Now Rusty, where the fuck does Iraq fit in? That's right, they didn't. Now you want to play the game with us here you better practice up instead of bullshit like this. You just come across as foolish.
RustyhookerDriving so this will take a few to post. Funds to nato is obviously a burden of america.
http://www.businessinsider.com/only-us-and-estonia-meeting-nato-budget-g...
RustyhookerSame old debate of who was funding or allowing the terror groups. Those debates were also going on since carters day. Which comes down to who to believe.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2003/09/17/bush-no-link-between-iraq-sept-1...
Harboring countries.
http://www.terrorism-research.com/state/countries.php
LOL, so you put up a fox news article from 2003! Oh man, I am going to be nice and just shake my head and walk away.
Rustyhooker2003 or various other dates. Its the same finger pointing debates.
Soon enough it'll be trump or shrillary and I know where my vote is going. Apparently, this is the best America has to offer. Go Trump!
Well thankfully I truly believe the majority of America knows he would be a catastrophic mistake, hell, even his own party knows he would be a catastrophic mistake. Hopefully you will take some time to reevaluate why you actually support this guy and alter course.
RustyhookerAltering course to shrillary wont happen. It'll be 4 years to see if he holds up. Or 4 years to find a real leader. The less of 2 evils is a sad state of affairs.
Republicans are only irritated at the top because they want someone who's controlled. They want someone in their pocket that's bought and paid for. Ron Paul had many good qualities but wouldn't sell out.
StevebThe Republicans are all friends withe the Democrats and the Democrats are now all Socialists. It's bullshit there are no two parties. You're either part of the club or not. The affordable care act was going to pass even if Mitt Romney won because his health care plan was the same as Obama's. It was all written by Joseph Grubber.
StevebYou can just google Hillary made ISIS possible and you will find many articles showing how while she ran the state department they made "wilful decisions" to allow ISIS to be created. They created or at least allowed ISIS to form on record and NATO has been attacking anyone who apposes ISIS. It ridiculous to say Trump is dangerous but Hillary is not. And not only is NATO not needed but it has been helping true enemies of the US in ISIS, Turkey, and sitting back while the Saudis get away with anything.
http://levantreport.com/2015/05/19/2012-defense-intelligence-agency-docu...
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/officials-u-s-trained-isis-at-secret-base-in-...
http://levantreport.com/2015/08/06/former-dia-chief-michael-flynn-says-r...
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military#onepass
Steve, notice all the bold writing is stuff that dude added to the "declassified report". I am not bothering with the rest of it. Any of us could do the same it wouldn't make it any more relevant.
And as far as Trump I am not too concerned. He is not going to be president.
I think the bold facing was done to highlight certain points. It's part of the actual report.
StevebHow could ISIS operate oil fields and have permanent bases without any help from the west. It's just not possible. A real terrorist organization has to stay hidden just to survive. US generals have come out and said the US and other NATO countries fund, arm, and help ISIS. It's not a theory anymore but some people just do not want to believe their military could do something so evil. Hillary was all over Libya and helping ISIS take it over. Those were not freedom fighters and we know that now.
Which US generals was that?
StevebI showed you where Flynn said it in an interview and you did not believe it and said he probably has an axe to grind. There is no convincing you that part of our military is involved with ISIS.
And now it's coming out that in "Operation Fast and Furious" where we sent guns to Mexican cartels, a lot of those guns were then sent to ISIS.
That is true, you haven't convinced me. And you said generals, as in plural. Where?
And General Flynn. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/head-of-pentagon-...
Critics said that his management style could be chaotic and that the scope of his plans met resistance from both superiors and subordinates. At the same time, his tenure was marked by significant turbulence, including the fallout from the classified intelligence files leaked by former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden, as well as other emerging crises.
“His vision in DIA was seen as disruptive,” said a former Pentagon official who worked closely with Flynn. At the DIA, Flynn sought to push DIA analysts and operators “up and out of their cubicles into the field to support war fighters or high-intensity operations,” the former official said. “I’m not sure DIA sees itself as that.”
Flynn clashed with other high-ranking officials, including Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Michael G. Vickers. Officials said Flynn had opposed Vickers’ efforts to make significant cuts to large intelligence centers established to support the U.S. military’s regional overseas commands. A former CIA operative, Vickers has sought to model the DIA’s training and overseas presence more closely on its civilian counterpart, according to current and former U.S. officials.
The plan has encountered significant opposition on Capitol Hill, particularly from members of the Senate Armed Services Committee who have voiced concern over the cost of creating the Defense Clandestine Service, and questioned whether Pentagon spies would end up being used to fill intelligence gaps that are supposed to be handled by the CIA.
Flynn’s departure, which has been rumored for weeks, was set in motion earlier this year when Clapper informed him that the administration had concluded that a leadership change was necessary, officials said. Others described it as a mutual agreement that Flynn would step down.
Flynn was a key player in U.S. military efforts to dismantle insurgent networks in Iraq and Afghanistan, an approach that relied heavily on combining U.S. Special Operations forces with intelligence operatives and analysts.
I knew it made no sense that he had such a stellar career and then all of a sudden got the boot. As far as his knowledge of ISIS he was out of the job before they really took hold. I am sure he has ideas but I highly doubt they were his focus either when he readily admits Afghanistan was.
And another showing Flynn is a kook.
http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/02/12/cnns-jake-tapper-repeatedly-cha...
StevebThat doesn't make sense to you? That Michael Flynn is accusing the government of being responsible for ISIS and they don't have nice things to say about him afterwards?
Yes he's such a kook that they keep making him the head of many different agencies lol. Dude there is no convincing you.
Really how the hell can ISIS or any other terrorist group operate in the open like that? They have recruitment on social media, their own magazine, oil fields, refineries, training camps, and always get air support from NATO right when they really need it.
If it was a country you dislike like Russia you would believe it all.
And again, he was out before ISIS really blew up. He was also by his own words focused on Afghanistan, but you are so hung up that you cannot even acknowledge these two simple truths. To say that we "created" ISIS by intent is ludicrous and just shows your complete detachment from reality.
StevebThat does not matter, what matters is hw was there to see ISIS form. He said they made a "wilful decision to let ISIS form". Which is what happened.
The simple Truth is you think ISIS can exist out in the open without any help from the west. That is NOT possible.
And this dude is obviously a disgruntled former employee who fucked his own stellar career and now has an axe to grind. Believe him however much you like.
StevebIt's not magic that they always have brand new US weapons. And they operate in the open and only Russia has really gone after them. It's obvious man