posted Wed, 04/13/2016 - 15:36
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Ok so you guys know im all about making America great again, but this forum is for all veiws and open to debate. Education , debunking, and trying to open some eyes is also reccomended. Any topic/discussion related to politics is welcome, you are welcome to take the gloves off but keep it respectful. Show some support, go trump
keep it respectfull fellas. Debating is fine, but keep the insults to a minimum please or I pull it. TT
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StevebWhy would any hard working person support a Democrat? They're really just socialist. Their debates are all about who will give out the most free shit.
The fuck it is. I see you need your avatar back lol
Why would any hard working person support republicans? WTF have they done for the hard working middle class?
StevebI've told you before that the Republicans we have now are the same shit as the Democrats. John Boehner and now Paul Ryan are doing everything to help Obama. Faggot Paul Ryan signed Obama's Omnibus bill just days after he said he would veto it. And Faggot John Boehner never tried to block Obama care like he said he would.
Both parties are the same. There all one group with a fee outsiders like Ron Paul was and others who were all on the Republicans side.
It's like this. Democrats are 100% full of shit and Republicans are about 95% full of shit.
musseldawg69Ron paul is the man
Well then say that in the first post. I agree with you. And that is why I back Sanders
StevebBernie is bad news. He's a self admitted communist. He was part of their party. He's only running as a socialist because communist sounds too ugly. Any adult male who can work but refuses to like him til he was 40 should die. I can't stand people like him.
And his proposal for free school is bullshit. It's only free for state schools and you have to pay more in the end so it ends up not being free and actually costing more.
This country doesn't need a bigger government it needs a smaller one and less socialist. People uses the US mail as an excuse for socialism but what they don't tell you is the US mail sucked til it had competition like FedEx and UPS. It had to get better to keep up with them. A real true free market that isn't rigged is always better.
See there you go and wreck whatever point you could have made yet again with your hyperbole. He is not a communist so go back to your fox news Steve, you are drunk.
StevebDid you vote for a guy you know nothing about. He was part of the the United Packinghouse Workers Union which is a communist front. He marched with communists groups, he raised money for communist groups.
He has never , not once gone on record as a communist. I am sure you have associated with people you don't share the same ideology with in your own life. What they are is not what you are.
StevebBut I did not raise money or March for groups that I don't share the same ideology like the Communist party. If a white guy marches in a KKK rally he's racist but Bernie marches with communists, raises money for them, and he's not considered a communist or pro communist?
Technically speaking, Bernie isn't even a socialist... Let alone a commie. And in the technical definition and understanding of communist ideology, it has never existed.
StevebCommunism has 10 rules or planks as they call them. Those are the requirements to be communist. Regardless if he meets those definitions he is a fascist loser.
He meets none of those definitions for either communism or fascism... He meets all the definitions for one form or another of capitalism, every leader in the modern world does.
StevebBullshit. He meets many of the the 10 planks and is fascist.
Believe me, he meets absolutely ZERO of them. I took two years of coursework on this shit, haven't met anyone who came remotely close to meeting any credentials. His policies and views are absolutely capitalistic, he does nothing to address the basic premise of even socialism, which would be ownership of means of production.
Again, you call him a loser. What the fuck have you done?
StevebI've had a job since I was a teenager, no credit card debt, never received government assistance, own a home, never been fired. All things Bernie can't say. He's a looser that's never had a hard days work in his life.
Shit, then that must make me a fascist...
StevebYou didn't work til you were 40 like Bernie and got fired your first week? You don't think that's bring a loser?
Care to provide me his employment history?
Never been fired, worked since I was 12, and I own an apartment... But I have recieved federal aid - college tuition, I have CC debt which I'm currently paying off, which still ticks off 40% of your fascist-loser scale.
I don't believe he is a Loser, quite the opposite. He had the Democratic popular vote, has had a very successful career as a politician, and is now running for the highest office in the free world, whether for his own gain or for that of the people... Quite successful no?
But if we're judging success by holding a job a taco bell "x" amount of years ago, sure then he's totally a Loser?
StevebHe did not get his first job til he was 40. His first job was as a carpenter at 40 where he got fired his first week. So you think someone who does not work til 40 is not a loser?
He has worked prior to 40, as a director for a non-profit for what it's worth... But rather than looking at his success as a positive story of someone who went from living in a dirt shack for parts of his life to his position now, let's mock the fact that he was a shitty carpenter (I've had my fair share of shitty carpenters, it's not skill-less work as most people assume).
StevebYeah he was poor, that's what happens when you don't work. This country is supposed to be a constitutional republic. Trying to change that does not make you a successful politician. Most are not that is why our government has a 9% approval rating.
His first stable income was as a carpenter, which is why you believe that's his first job. Stable income is a relatively vague term throw around and does not actually mean he did not work prior to that position. Being poor does not mean you don't work... I'm sure you understand that.
Nor is he trying to change our country from being a constitutional Republic/democratic Republic...
musseldawg69I know bums like this most of em are dope heads and live off a bitch on section 8.. worthless
BOOOOMMM you hit the nail on the head here , liberals can't understand that, much respect to you
StevebBernie Sanders is the leat qualified person to ever run for president. And as a person he's a repulsive race baiter who says shit like white people don't know what it's like to(fill in the blank).
StevebWTF is a leat
musseldawg69Maybe another forum should be set up here one day, I can tell you this much white privilege is a myth perpetuated by those who hate white people
Make America Great Britain Again!
musseldawg69This comment is ironic cause what trump is doing is defending and preserving the constitution like most true republicans would
I doubt Trump has ever even read the constitution. And he has clearly demonstrated he doesn't understand it.
Now you are talking. I truly wish we could switch to a parliamentary system. Then we would not be stuck with two parties in complete control and good things could actually happen in our government. As it stands we have a bunch of cattle buying into a complete load of bullshit.
StevebEngland is worse off than the USA. To make us great again we have to go back to being a Constitutional Republic like we were intended to be.
musseldawg69I second that , the founding fathers would be ashamed at the current state of affairs
The founding fathers were not capitalist so yeah they would be ashamed. They also were not deist either for the most part and that so why they put bold separations between church and state. But the republicans just cannot grasp that or the reasons why
musseldawg69This part I couldn't agree more with, im on the same page there
Founding fathers are dead, constitution is from the 1700s... It's a dated piece of paper that needs to be rewritten to modern times and beliefs... But yeah, defend the Constitution and all of that hoopla!
musseldawg69Its because I have this thing called heritage and tradition, everything here originates from them and to think you know better is pure vanity... referring to men among men, legends, patriots, those documents are more relevant today than ever
Everything originates from overseas homeboy... Thanks to immigration (not only to the US, but global) Heritage and tradition evolves, I mean fuck I guarantee you I'm not following the same traditions my ancestors did back in the motherland 50 years ago let alone 200... Society evolves and moves on evolves, melts together, your traditions have changed as well... You don't see me sacrificing a goat to please the harvest God.
bigmurphIm with you on this one dawg. I really hope I don't have to see another 8 years of democratic process.
musseldawg69Haha no shit im hurtin right now my company slowed down so much I make about half, and cause we are so slow they had to drop our insurance. . So guess what my medical bills are racked up and next year im getting hosed on my taxes. At this rate I should be a bernie fan im going to need that free shit lol smh
bigmurphIm not against taking free shit but I sure don't expect anyone to take care of me and mine. I got hit with a fucking fine by my govt in a so called free country for not buying health insurance last year. That doesn't sound too free does it. Thats Obama legacy, fucking Obama care.
That is yet another reason why universal is the only way left. Then everyone has to pay instead of just us in the middle class. It is an extremely complicated mess tho and I am about to crash so fuck typing all of it out. Good night
StevebUniversal health care has always bankrupted every system and it will here too and already is with Obama care. Jonathan Grubber the author of it admitted it would do that.
Trumps health care plan is the best. It allows you for the first time to get insurance across state lines which will force companies to be more competitive and drive down costs. Also you are not forced to sign up for it and will NOT be penalized if you don't.
And you get incentives to join like tax write offs for doing so. And it is 100% transparent, you can look up the cost of everything. No one ever bashes his health care plan because it is great.
musseldawg69Trump has screwed the pooch anyway, he will never be president. Listen close, NEVER...
musseldawg69Well im hoping when he does the annual purge commences hahaha jk
You need to be realistic. He has alienated all but trailer park dwelling and confused red necks. The GOP wants him gone. So in the end he will end up going independent and just split the conservative vote further. The best he can hope for is for Bernie to say Fuck you to the Democrats and go independent as well. But even then it won't be enough. Trump could have coasted to the presidency but he doesn't listen to anyone of his advisors and cannot STFU
musseldawg69Hey my trailer is purty good .. I dunno i think we got it, at first I thought he might be a shill but he's looking like the real deal to me, he dont listen and thats what we need is a leader
Hey if you are convinced place a bet in Vegas on him. His payout is getting bigger every day.