posted Wed, 04/13/2016 - 15:36
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Ok so you guys know im all about making America great again, but this forum is for all veiws and open to debate. Education , debunking, and trying to open some eyes is also reccomended. Any topic/discussion related to politics is welcome, you are welcome to take the gloves off but keep it respectful. Show some support, go trump
keep it respectfull fellas. Debating is fine, but keep the insults to a minimum please or I pull it. TT
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StevebCan you rephrase that and just say you were wrong.
Get rid of NAFTA and do not pass the TPP and more big businesses will come back. Why would they stay if they will get taxed badly and more will leave if Bernie wins and taxes them to oblivion.
Sure, I was wrong, does that tickle your pickle?
Getting rid of NAFTA will not bring businesses back, it will push them to even further markets with cheaper labor costs and thus raise consumer costs. You don't fear a race to the bottom? If the US were to drastically lower corporate taxes, who's to say other countries undercut theirs? Beggar thy neighbor policies and such.
StevebGet rid of NAFTA and put tariffs on goods from outside the US, like everyone else does.
It won't work, because then you start entering a prisoners dilemma. Trade agreements are good because they lower capital costs during production, which in essence SHOULD translate to lower costs for goods to end users.
StevebWell all NAFTA did is get rid of a lot jobs and it made a lot of people poor. Sure things cost less but without a job you can't buy shit anyway.
see I told you muscledawg and you fucked it up...
Just so we are clear. This thread is going to end up closed because this asshole is a racist. We will not tolerate this shit on eroids. And if anyone cares to go back a couple pages this was just the tip of the iceberg. You can come back tomorrow but do not let me see you insulting anyone like that again.
shove ur ban up...To they share lower iq levels and are more violent-
https://m.reddit.com/r/OpenandHonest/comments/3evdd3/blacks_in_the_us_an...
Asian-Americans -106, White Americans - 103, Hispanic Americans - 89, African-Americans - 85.
This means more than one in five American blacks have an IQ below 75; whereas around one in twenty whites have an IQ below 75. An IQ of 70-75 is considered "borderline retarded" by psychologists.
The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States
Racist for stating facts now you kiss my fucking ass motherfucker I wont be back pussy
Not trying to get banned too but I've seen these stats quoted in reputable social science. Maybe someone should counter his argument with opposing facts rather than banning him? Maybe IQ tests are biased? Maybe there are economic factors at play in crime? I don't agree with muscledawg's politics but he was a decent debater
With all due respect, if someone is wrong or ignorant you can counter their arguments with facts and expose their ignorance.
And I was enjoying lurking on this one, it was just getting good, I had popcorn popped and everything, damn...
Describe reputable social science, because I have never heard this shit quoted... IQ tests are not a measure of intelligence, but rather a measure of test taking abilities.
Economic factors are always at play regarding crime, and the simple fact is crime is more prevalent in impoverished communities, regardless of race.
StevebYes they do. They consist of a lot of questions that are not learned knowledge. Try taking a one from a mensa book.
You just proved my point, the fuck are you still going on about?
StevebYou said they do not measure intelligence but they do. And different types of intelligence.
They don't but whatever you say Steve. Not like you can be coached to get a higher score on an IQ exam or anything.
StevebNo you can't be coached that is the whole point. They measure intelligence that is not learned. What the hell does coaching have to do with it????? It's like the old saying goes "you can't fix stupid".
IQ exams are just that - exams. They have a certain methodology behind their structure, and that methodology can be worked to gain higher scores.
But I'm done trying to reason with you stevie, you keep your IQ exams and your superior status, obergrupenfuhrer.
StevebThe most common I have seen quoted recently is "Race, Evolution, and Intelligence" by Linda Gottfredson
I'll look into it, I can't say I've ever heard of it. I have heard of a similar study about race, evolution, and genetics and the author completely misrepresented geneticist data, to the point that over 100 of the actual geneticists came out and rebutted his shit.
Racial supremacy was almost a given in social science of past generations and it resulted in some really nasty shit happening in the 19&20th century. I think that because of that, we immediately dismiss any scientific discussion of inherited differences among different groups of people -race, religion, nationality etc. If there are real differences, we are not doing any good by ignoring them. That was my only point.
You are missing the forest for the trees bro. We do not tolerate racism on Eroids, he clearly crossed over. And then instead of taking an overnight ban, he jumps right back in swinging. But truth is he was already on the mod radar for all of the incessant whining and shit stirring he did on the GBI SI. So the cumulative score is...
I completely understand. He was obviously hiding some deep seated hatred, i was just hoping someone could prove him wrong. That being said, no need to put the site on the radar. Gear is one thing, being connected to extremist politics is a whole other level of scrutiny so I get it.
Not the right place for that type of discussion
Arguing whether a race is inferior is an exercise in futility and it is one I am not going to entertain.
Agreed. And if one were to be blessed with above average aptitude, it would be their responsibility to help the less fortunate rather than chest beat and point to their own superiority.
Fuckin Trump supporters, I keep wanting to like them.... and then they do this dumb shit
And that is why he cannot and will not win.
And now you are banned for good, good riddance. You are a whiney, racist and I am tired of seeing your name and your posts. Adios
Did you say adios to prove your not racist or to suck up to me because I'm spanish lmfao
Neither, I try to keep up on my simple Spanish in case I ever have to run. lol
Lmfao right on.
I thought cardio was a dirty word to you!
I clearly said "in case"! lol
hahaha, if you are going to an entire race's intelligence at least you the correct form of "their"
just my two cents
This is why these type of posts shouldn't be allowed.
Exactly. This is some sensitive stuff to most. Politics and gear does not mix. It would have to be a real special blend. I'm independent also. Just on top.of that fence leaning one way to hear the other.
Yea, you are likely right. If guys could just discuss without saying ridiculous, ignorant shit we could probably all learn something from each other. But that must be another crazy liberal dream of mine I guess. Truth is I am independent , but if you are not a tea partying, racist asshole, ready to go curb stomping the poor you are a liberal. Fuck it...
All politics does is create a divide. Only thing we can do is vote. The way I see it my beliefs and values are mine and yours are yours. We could debate about it til we are both blue in the face, won't change a thing. Topics like this bring the worst out in people, because at the core we are filled with hate in some form or another.
There was definitely some healthy debate in this thread, but Jesus fuck did this derail into a racist shit storm...
musseldawg69Whites didnt create slavery whites did however end slavery.. there were alot of irish slaves and ive never heard an irishman bitching about "privileges"
Sigh. This topic has derailed I believe.
That's because they just get drunk, and then they get even...
Car bombs are louder than whining anyway
StevebDamn Irishmen jacked me for roids and didn't get in trouble.
musseldawg69Hahaha
They bitch about everything else!
Source: Working for an entire company of Irishmen!
musseldawg69Lol
JAMES MATTIS 2016!!!!
They all suck.
musseldawg69“White Americans need to do a better job of listening when African Americans talk about the seen and unseen barriers that you face every day,”- Hillary Clinton
“We need to recognize our privilege and practice humility, rather than assume that our experiences are everyone’s experiences,” she added.
what do y'all think of this smh to me it sounds like self loathing and she is an embarrassment to her own race
Racial privilege is real... Or do you believe it isn't?
StevebWhite Privileged
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrxZRuL65wQ
BOOM!!! Say whaaaaat!!