posted Tue, 08/13/2013 - 00:22
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+ 27 What to do about sources like this?
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there was also the scandal of fake pics posted.
I will remove him from the ranks for now until admin decides what to do about it. Personally I dont think a source that would text pics to members and allow them to post as packs received, then plan to alter test results if they are not good, be even allowed on this site.
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I have bought from this source multiple times and wondered about the validity of his oils. I have test c and enanthate. Should I just discontinue immediately and regroup when I can purchase replacement head? Also the test c is giving me extremely bad pop, flu like symptoms and a redness on the skin for a few days after. I think I'm going to stick with pharma grade from now on. Can't trust anyone.
Just in case anyone forgot how our GTG source Perf operates:
http://www.eroids.com/pics/perf-off
Did anyone else end up receiving blue tops from this guy? Just wondering if anyone has more information on it? From the way everything has gone, it sounds like the trash can might be the safest home for it... but I figured I would at least ask first.
shirlsguyShocked? Not in the least. This, my friends is why I joined eroids. This is simply a well driven machine working out the way it is meant to; still, it really sux for the people who get burned in the uncovering of a scam. I joined eroids just after posts like this saved me from getting into bed with perses.... a man known for awesome gear, great reputation... that fell like a rock into a deep lake. Twice, eroids has worked for me.
People are really blasting fan boys in this thread when one had a good experience from something another had a bad experience. It happens. I had a lousy two weeks on some Rip Bland early this year, I complained and was heard, but not much relief. I threw out my opens and donated my remainder to a friend who wanted to give it a try. He had a good experience with it. I didn't call him a fan boy just because he liked the same product I had just written poorly about.
Money back.... I would not really hope much on that one. If the source put a bad product out there, I believe that move alone says he could not handle his own loss. Sounds like he went too far out on an investment and could not eat his own losses.... decided to pass it off onto the community. I never put out an order larger than I can eat... being ripped off with three kids, five pets, mortgage and education bills is the absolute pits, but it happens a lot and I had best be prepared for it. My postage and handling, along with bank transfer fees are ten times higher than need be, but is has kept me from being ripped off more than I can have a laugh about.
I have not figured out yet, if this guy 'planned' his scam, but I don't believe he did. HGH is faked soooo much right now... even direct from the factories if one has that link. It is so popular that factories cannot meet demand and they pass on whatever goes.... the Chinese factories, at least. I get a lot of offers for 100IU as cheap as $58-$108 but have never taken up on it.... if only due to summer shipping. I believe that 50% of the reviews I am reading on HGH suspect that something is wrong with the product and that is from very reputable sources.
No, this whole thing is not hard to believe. It is certainly not an isolated case, and you can be certain that more of it is going on than meets the eye. I watched another big source get blasted some months ago, but as near as I can tell, he pulled his stock at the first warning and made people right. Low character was at play here, plain and simple.
Do I think this guy is going to start putting motor oil into his gear? NOT. But what happens when he received a large batch of powder that has been cut with something dangerous? Will he throw it out, or will he pass it on? If his tren-ace powder melts too high, is he going to re-source and throw out the bad gear or just double the dose and sell it as a rip blend? That we cannot know and this is what would bother me.
From cons in the Penn selling coffee grounds as dope to boot leggers selling ripped cd's, the world is full of people who will pass on an inferior product with no accountability.
Last, the calls for a permanent ban on this seller..... I really like the responses from our MOD on this one.... not yet as there are a lot of people to be made right and they want to see this happen. What a great attitude.
Everyone has all the information they need just in that email... this guy is up against a wall and he is worried about feeding his family. If any reader thinks that this post will stop the source from unloading any bad gear left over in order to pay his mortgage, then they mis-calculate the drive behind a desperate man. This guy ended up on some bad gear and was not ready to eat the loss, so he passed it on. And if it happens with a couple kg of powder... well, you'll end up pinning it too.
I hope those who were burned large to those who lost a little all get made whole, but like was posted. This guy clearly was not prepared to eat his loss up front, no way he's eating it now... and if he actually 'planned' this, well, really be ware then!
UPDATE: this really isn't about the source directly, but to the members who have bought oils from this source. I'm sure that my dealings with him are over and I wont be fully compensated.
As soon as the MS Testing results are done I'll post them, good or bad.
I'm hoping they test fair, good or even excellent.
Synergist NPP 100 01/2014 (Old Label Purple Top)
Sustanon 250 6532 4-2015 (New Label Red Top)
Masteron 250 6532 4-2015 (New Label Orange Top)
Test P 100. 6532 4-2015 (New Label Purple Top)
It could be awhile before the results are in. A/B are busy I'm sure.
Hope the results can help members decide if they should pin or not to pin.
Can you update us on whether or not you have received the rest of your outstanding funds? I want to make sure everyone who is owed is paid back before performanceformulations gets put back in the rankings.
No double B's. Was promised to be taken care of a couple Fridays ago with cash. He also mentioned something about sending some Tren E. I'm not a Tren guy (yet) This was the same type of responses that I dealt with over the last months as I'm sure you did aswell. I didn't even bother trying to email or PM him when nothing showed.
Wow bro I'm sorry to hear that. He burnt me also but not nearly for as much as yourself, and I'm wanting to go ring doorbells for it. You are a good man bro taking it as well as you have. Wish I had you patients man.
Thanks B. It's not over yet. So maybe the outcome will eventually be handled. In the meantime, I'm hoping the MS Test come out ok. If not, at least it will help everyone to see what's good and not good. That's what eRoids is all about. Glad I stumbled across it over a year ago. Lots of cools members here.
Lol....I just read the "ringing doorbells" part. Seems like your not the only one. What's even crazier I think some people know where that doorbell really is! WOW
BigBmajThat's a great way to get your money back - sell his addy!
LMAO! Just to clarify. I personally don't have that info, and if I did, that's not the route I'd ever take. Too much DRAMA. Ive just read different posts that stated there was some personal info floating out there.
I agree with the others, Yep - you're a cool dude with a great attitude and sense of humor bro!
AnonGood man
you sir are a good man. You likely got burnt more than anyone with this fiasco, and continue to dig into your own pocket to help other members put their minds at ease.
he isnt burnt yet![Smile](https://www.eroids.com/sites/all/modules/smiley/packs/kolobok/smile.gif)
Nope, it's official now.
mr127superdeeRoid Noid I know that you do not have firends that arent mods or admins but please i have i need to talk with someone like you about an issue and i dont want to make it public as this issue has proven to be a lil nerve wrecking you can delete our friendship right after we talk
if its pertinent to the site or safety thats fine, I just dont do the chat thing
mr127superdeenot looking to chat i will only message you if it is pertinent and i think it is... its not hard to remove a friend
if it makes any difference look through my profile i think i have proven myself on eroids to be nothing but an honest guy not a fanboy or a bullshitter
He has people on friends list so as a mod he can govern. He just doesn't trust any members outside of mods.
shirlsguyI'm actually impressed by this response... that you are still willing to try and work on behalf of the forum members to make them whole on their losses. I am guessing that you catch a lot of shit for even giving this source a chance, but that is what separates rational management from knee-jerk operators. Hang 'em high is so easy to jump on with something like this, but in the end, the warnings are enough to protect me. Given due diligence in research, I am sufficiently protected, eroids did great here. I applaud the attitude of even trying to see members made right, it shows more patience and work that a lesser person would have.
x2 couldn't agree more
I have no skin in this, but that's a great gesture that'll help some folks make an informed decision. These tests aren't free and add up. You could keep the info for yourself. A +1 doesn't do justice, but I'll give one just for looking out.
Awesome! Thanks!
RustyhookerThat's just damn awesome!
I'd like to personally thank you for going to the trouble of doing this. I have a few cycles worth of gear from Perf that I don't know what to do with. The results from this testing will help me make that decision.
That is great about the labs it will put a lot of guys at rest one way or another. Again the way you have dealt with this is very exceptional. I know I would not be so temperate about it. but that is some great self control. +2
That's very cool of you to do that for the other members of this site! Much appreciated sir!
Had anyone got there oils tested from the promo? Are they good? Also anyone that has pinned the oil got any good results?? I would just like I know if my oils are good or not thanks.
Whoever the punk bitch is that downvoted this, you're lucky you didn't have enough to take a point or you'd have a troll tag! What kind of a coward does that dumb shit? Go around dinging posts anonymously. Man up!
ClassyChassisHa ha, funny sh*t![Biggrin](https://www.eroids.com/sites/all/modules/smiley/packs/kolobok/biggrin.gif)
UPDATE: I still have not received full reimbursement as promised I would by last Friday. To answer the question "What to do about sources like this?" .....I think leaving this post up until, in Perfs words, "Good customers" like myself can have some slight possibility of receiving some type of closure from all this. Thanks ROID NOID for the post.
That's fucked, I was hoping you would be one of the first to be taken care of. Can't believe people are still supporting this guy.
I'm in the same boat with you guys... I haven't gotten a reply since the 10th... I've emailed him and pm'd him. I just found out about this the other day.. I've been waiting since march for my product
Anon. i no longer watch his thread cause its either a bunch of shit talk or a bunch of nut huggin and i still say if he is willing to fake a test and knowing selling bunk gh,,,,,, what else would he do.,, idk..,, maybe he has learned from this.,,,, or maybe not
AnonAlways speaking the words of logic brother! thumbs up for this statement.
AnonThank you
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.
PermalinkI hope you get your funds back to bro! Considering you and I both make orders over 4k we are customers you want to keep!
I am risking another 4k+ order with another supplier (who shall remain nameless for rules reasons) but i am hoping it all works out and will keep you updated! Being a GH junkie is expensive!
Welcome to my world! Lol. Yes it is B. But the results are worth it. Feel free to send me a PM if you have any questions about your new order.
Thanks for this update! I believe it is a big asset for the community as a whole. I won't mention names of sources here because I believe it is still against the rules but maybe I am wrong. I believe yours is one of the most important reimbursements do to the amount and whether it is fulfilled. I don't know if you are willing to post it if not forgive the question. But how much have you received back?
FR sent
accepted brother. Thanks
Murica69Just hearing about this, what if one day he decides to rip everyone off and bounce... would be easily done and by his priors would not be out of the question.
So wait a minute now. Is anyone claiming perf still owes for a bad order? Did he make those right? I still don't know if I can get past him wanting to fake results. Also, I had a great experience ordering from perf. I initially bought into some hysteria, but firmly believe the oils I got were top notch. He deserves a good review but with bros unpaid out there it seems wrong to do it. What would you bros do?
ClassyChassisLet's say you had a great meal at a nice restaurant and you plan to leave a good review on yelp. But then you see in the paper that the restaurant has been shut down by the Health Dept for sanitation violations. Not only that, but the owner tried to bribe the inspector to look the other way so he could continue business as usual. Would you still recommend the place? I mean they deserve it, right? You had a great meal. Of course the guy next to you had rodent feces in his soup, but hey, you had a great meal. (Not saying Perf's gear was contaminated, just bunk hGH, so it fits the analogy.)
People are going to use your review to help them make a decision. Consider that, and follow your own conscience.
AnonOk
If he had a good experience he should put that in his review. The people who didn't can make their own bad reviews.
It doesn't make sense for a person to write a bad review if they had a good one even if there was other people with issues.
I hope people write reviews based on their own experience
ClassyChassisWhere did I tell him to write a bad review? I wouldn't leave any review myself, but if I did I would put everything I knew in it for full disclosure.And the "issue" isn't with other people. It's with the source planning to potentially cover up unfavorable info about bunk products. That affects every potential customer.
He hasn't made right with me yet. I'm being patient so we will see...
Sirk1981On a side note,,GEAUX ULL!!!