posted Mon, 08/12/2013 - 15:22
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+ 27 What to do about sources like this?
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there was also the scandal of fake pics posted.
I will remove him from the ranks for now until admin decides what to do about it. Personally I dont think a source that would text pics to members and allow them to post as packs received, then plan to alter test results if they are not good, be even allowed on this site.
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That's funny...Laissez les bons temps rouler!!
All you can give is your experience and if you think he deserves a good review then go for it. I do see where you're coming from tho..
Update: Perf has refunded me money he had previously owed me for a hygetropin order I was buying.
Anyways all is good now. I received full cash amount . This was not part of the syntropin fiasco by the way. Hope everyone else has been taken care of or gets taken care of.
Perfs and I are totally squared away now. He made things right and doesn't owe me anything.
I placed my first order with Perf early this month and I'm close to 3 weeks into my oils (Test E + Tren E + Mast E). They definitely seem gtg, already up 7 pounds while leaning out, feeling rock solid as well.
The oils I received had the Synergist labeling, I've noticed photos of some of his newer promo packs the labels are different/new.
I was reading that the oils Yolked brewed for him were on point and newer oils may be suspect, would my Synergist oils most likely have been from the older batch?
I was going to place a 2nd order earlier today when I found out about this fiasco. Sucks because on PM Perf seemed like a standup guy.
Seems like every time I think I found a great source something like this happens, first with CENSORED, now this.
shirlsguyIt's easy to be standup when everything is going well... but (as I suspect happened) if you get thousands worth of bad stock.... this is where character comes in to play.... especially if you have people riding your ass on back-orders to ship.... do you eat the loss and deal with the pain of delaying already complaining customers? Or, do you pass on the bad luck and hope to survive the back-lash? If it were not for the email, and likely more evidence I am unaware of, I am betting this guy's reputation on oils would have carried him through it.
No, if he were standup, he would have pulled the bad gear right away and told everyone to return it as soon as possible. Our MOD clearly posted even giving this guy a chance to admit and make it right... he did not. I saw one other big source get called out on a test result.. he pulled his gear, made people right and his reputation is in order.
And I'll say it again! Just because a MOD posted about a source doesn't mean we can start throwing other sources into the pile. The rules still apply! No sources mentioned other than the one at hand!
Apologies for that, won't happen again.
RustyhookerIts easy thinking actually. It's called being a nuthugger.
Hustler : a source that frontloads off your hsrd earned money to payback others. If you don't know front loading then youd better research how a drug dealer operates.
CENSORED: arrogance and ripping off small buyers with no karma is your idea of good sales/business? There's still small timers out of money waiting.
Basically Sonny, this is a drug site. Or are you the type to roll one up so after buying you can let your dealer smoke your stash as well?
Don't see where I'm giving off any kind of nuthugger vibe. I placed my first ever order with Perf early this month and it was because he was ranked at the top with glowing reviews. So It's being a hugger to place an order with a top rated source?
When did I say ripping off customers was good business? All I stated was that the times I've tried a top source that seemed great they've ended up pulling a stunt to rip off customers shortly after I've placed my first order.
I had trouble with perf months and months ago and fan boys were so Ape shit I didn't even bother. I ordered two packs.from promo waited.3 weeks.one.showed up with half the.order was told the 5 bottled.would come with the other 13 I ordered well surprise the big pack never showed and was promised a reship and I never heard from him again my guess is he never sent the big pack to begin with he had so much business he was in over his head and knew nothing would catch up to him cuz he called everyone bro and promised they had nothing to worry about. He also was very shady with the rips preorders months and months went by and he kept taking more money and sending out some preorders some were left out to dry and never received it I think he invested the money elsewhere and they were never ordered tocbegin with .. with everything going on with him honestly why do we need a src on steroids who would doctor labs and rip people off?? Too many great srcs here to have shitty ones ruin the rep. Eroids whole idea is honest review and mods to mske sure srcs like this don't last!! He had his chance you doctor labs.and get members to post pics of 700 ml bottles they didn't receive that's bs no room for that shit here. My .02
I DON'T KNOW WTF YOU GUYS ARE BICKERING ABOUT! THE THREAD IS ABOUT PERF AND ASKING THE COMMUNITY WHAT TO DO! IT ISN'T ABOUT ANY OTHER SOURCE OR THEIR DEALINGS OR CONNECTIONS TO OTHER SOURCES! WHY YOU FUCKIN GUYS THINK ITS OK TO PUT PERSONAL SHIT ALL OVER THE FORUM IS BEYOND ME, BUT THE RULES STILL APPLY! DO I HAVE TO LOCK THIS DOWN?!?!? AND AS FOR PERF GETTING A SECOND CHANCE, HE MIGHT. NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. WHEN THEY ARE, YOU'LL ALL HEAR ABOUT IT. ENOUGH WITH THE DUMB SHIT OR THE FUCKIN BAN HAMMER COMES OUT!
And P.S.....Sources don't have immunity and are not fucking exempt! Ill ban you fucks just as fast as a mouthy member!
AnonNitti coming out guns blazing! Good shit bro! Someone had to put order in this thread!
Some of you are already there and others walking the line.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/fan-boys-and-nut-huggers
my girl kinda looks like that about once a week!
Lmao!
AnonI <3 U
I ordered some kits of Rips back in march... I received 1 kit of blue flip offs 2 weeks ago and I've been waiting to get the rest of my gear... sounds like I don't even want the gear he's sending out anyways... I left a review on the main forum if anyone is curious.. as far as it all goes.. I have no clue what to think or do, but it's been a back and forth game trying to get my gear for months... I've been supposedly getting my product every week now for the last 2 months
I've been in the process of looking for a new source for rips for the last few months, but all of this has left a bad taste in my mouth... I've had a large chunk of change waiting to get my product for a second order.. I've been overly patient with him on the issue and quite frankly it pisses me off and i feel sure theres a lot of people going through the sane issue... I've already contacted another source trying to get something set up...
Right now quality GH is easy to get. Plenty of tests done from several sources. Just have to research.
Yeah I know, I have been... I'm currently setting up an order with CENSORED gear.. I'm partial to rips because I was on them for a year, and then my source couldn't get them anymore
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Sorry.. it slipped
What's sad is I did my research on perf back then... and then all of this takes place.. it's a sad story for everyone involved
Well I never seen labs on perfs GH and I have seen multiples on other sources.
Fina you're missing the point... I know GH is fairly easy to get... this conversation isn't about how easy it is to get, it's about the people that put their trust into someone that was a top source and got screwed over.. it's not like we just made some random order with a random guy.. I was one of them, and I feel bad for everyone else that was involved... As far as getting reimbursed, has anyone had any luck yet?
After a source was kicked from Eroids I have only seen one source pay everyone back what was owed.In my book that src showed everyone that they are honorable even when time are tough. I know perf was not kicked but what has happened to him would make most sources run. If he pays everyone back It would for sure show everyone what kind of person he is. Maybe not make up for what he did but sure as hell would help. I hope the best for you and everyone that is in this. If he is a true man everyone will get what they are owed.
I hope he has learned his lesson from this and that if he decides to try to stay in the game that he figures out a way to right his wrongs
Anonthis is how you judge someones character. from everything I read he was more like "Oh shit, I knew there was something wrong, oh well.." rather than publicly announcing it and taking care of people.. I would surely expect more out of a top 3 source in my honest opinion. I know how I would handle it, and from what I have seen from Banner, Naps etc - they would be quick to make right as well, rather than pawning the loss off on the user since the supplier failed to have any lab tests done - except by the user "is it real" who's is definitely, without a doubt - fake.
shirlsguyYes, Muta - 'responsible' would have pulled the gear and made it right, not taken part in conversations about covering it up. There are too many of you in the top 10 with continuing good reputation and integrity for me to even consider buying from this source... no matter how good his oils may have been.... which, if I read correctly, is now managed by new brewing.
Not just the top 3, Muta.... I would not want this from anyone! This stuff gets pinned into our bodies and for people like me, often gets shared with my favorite person in the whole world... me missus. If I fuck ME up, fair enough, but if I do her... or with someone else who trusts me.... no, there is no excuse for this behavior.
I'm 100 percent with you muta.. and I tried to be understanding of the situation and for way too long, he was promising me "this legit new stuff" that never showed... I even told him I was cool, if he was having issues with the product just tell me.. I don't mind being patient if he left me in the loop
The issue was always that "there was an issue with customs or shipping"
AnonI understand that, because I ran into the same issue.. however, I think its beyond bad business to sell new kits, to new customers (all of which were bunk lol) when you got people on backorder.. like how does that make sense? so, you're going to take and make more money, when you still OWE people.. not how I roll. Shit eats at me if I owe people gear or stuff like that happens.. what does a customer feel like when they have been waiting 2-3 months because packs got seized and they see people posting pics of HGH they ordered and got that same week...
Speaking of muta... pm me please sir
I hope he gets it all figured out
Has anyone tested the blue tops that he has sent out?
check the 3 time winner of the EBCs page. He test stuff all the time and random on sources. Here is the link.http://www.eroids.com/forum/hgh-peptides/rhgh/gorillafits-hgh-test-resul...
I'm already with him setting up my order
Just my final two cents....despite having an amazing experience with his oils. There simply if no place for a source like this. If he's blatantly trying to deceive customers, how can we possibly know he isn't cutting corners worth sterilization? How can we be sure that we're getting exactly what's on the label? He already got caught with a mislabeling issue, was it intentional? We are injecting this shit in our bodies. While I stand by my review of him and his gear....he should be banned permanently.
i just did 4 bottles of his test c at 750 mgs and nothing wtf? what a waste of my time and money get rid of this guy!!! i dont get it why rid people off what a f ing loser!!!
if you have any left do mass spec and prove it is bunk
I'm absolutely shocked. I used his tren-e and it was the best I'd used! I set and broke pr's with astonishing frequency. But this really gives me pause. It's amazing how easily trust can be broken. I just can't trust him as a source any longer.
You know what they say, "The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior.."
Simple and straight to the point.
Just a thought. Its known that this source and his brewer parted ways some time ago. it would seem that the source just randomly googled a Chinese generic source for HGH after seeing his exposed text message. Wouldn't one assume that he's done the same thing with his Raws?
There's members like myself and others that are here for guidance, knowledge and sources that provide legit, tested gear (TRT/HRT) and secure ordering process.
Then there are members that are happy to get a bottle of oil in three days that might or might not contain what is on the label. This source would cater to this group IMO.
Just a thought. I still haven't received full compensation since nothing was received by Friday like I was promised. But after waiting over 5 months I wasn't holding my breath. It's been a pattern from this source.
Cheezeburgerkatget rid of this fucker, how shady.
Anona lot of fan boys in this thread!!!
I gotta go to bat for this guy. His product has been 100% effective and customer service top notch . I don't know about all the other drama as it has no affect on me. I will say this though it is nice to see eroids taking action when they think a source is not legit. As I said though in my experience this source has been nothing but legit. I have zero to gain , I will use this source with or without eroids. Thanks
And how do you feel about him planning on doctoring lab results if they came back in a negative light? So you always had a good experience, does that mean that everyone who has dealt with him has as well? Is it not possible or even probable that others have been duped by? I mean there are complaints about everything from very very late packs, to horrible pip suddenly to straight up bunk product. How would you like eroids administration to respond? Just sit back and let it all go because you had a good experience?