posted Sun, 04/02/2023 - 07:59
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+ 1 Can different brands of testosterone cause side effects and others not?
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Have you ever heard of one brand of testosterone causing side effects, but another brand of the same testosterone ester, at the same dose, not?
Maybe it's just me being crazy, but I just opened a new bottle of test c, and I think it is causing me side effects that my old bottle (from another brand) did not - at the same dosage. Oddly enough, the new bottle (which is causing some acne) is pharmacy grade, and the one that was just fine was UGL. Maybe it was a coincidence?
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JohnJuiceShort answer - Yes, different brands of testosterone can potentially cause different side effects, and some people may be more sensitive to certain formulations or types of testosterone than others.
I experienced different side effects from one brand or formulation of testosterone compared to another, but it's depending on factors such as dosage, and frequency of use, and it is basically an individual thing.
I definitely feel there's a difference, even between batches. Since I'm on TRT (when not on cycle), I always stock up on Test Cyp from different sources (UGL and Pharma). For that reason, I keep a little log on my personal results/effects. Helps with the upcoming review as well, and future orders so I don't get em mixed up 6 months later on what's what.
After about 8 months off of anything, i tell you the prop ester at even a minimal consistent dose will make you appreciate being a man
I definitely feel a difference with different brands, especially Prop. I’ve had some that give me instant PIP, and a few that give me absolutely no PIP. I feel some kick in quickly, and some don’t feel like they kick in at all. Crazy shit
Doubt it was coincidence, more likely a dosage issue. UGL dosage will vary from batch to batch. Even the so called good UGL brands I have seen off(under and over) by 10-15% sometimes even more of what they say they are. They never are consistent but in most cases close enough for what we are doing. Pharma is the only one you can trust for what it actually says on the label and to provide consistent results. My assumption is that your UGL is slightly underdosed and the pharma is properly dosed which is resulting in more aromatization since more test is actually in your system. If you are worried about it, then get some bloodwork done cause your estro is likely higher now also.
Different brands, different oils and different esters can hit people harder. For me personally it seems harder to manage Test c than E. E seems more stable to me whereas c I can't seem to stay stable I'll feel.good 2-3 days after the shot and then start having issues. Body chemistry can play a huge role in things. Maybe the mixture of the solvents, and carrier oils are hitting you diff. Draw bloods on both ugl and pharma and see. Remember 500mg of Test E/C is not really 500 MG. Ester weight takes 30% and then conversion to estro, DHT and others you're left with roughly 250mg of Test.
Yeah man I'm exactly the same way with E causing me to be more stable than C. I start to feel irritable on C yet I have that well being feeling on E. It's not a mental thing cause it's happened way too many times
Anon@DeeMan what’s good brother? Glad to see you back on the forums! And brother, when I was a little younger I preferred Enathate, however now I’m a little older I’m more a fan of cyp. Mainly for my TRT but also on cycle.
Why do you prefer cyp now besides dosages? Makes you feel better?
AnonFor me it’s a feeling I’d guess you say. Whenever I take Enathate even as a TRT dose. I’ll feel a good surge for a day or so, followed by a sluggish day or so. I’ve experienced this on multiple different brands too. With Cyp I just feel more stable personally. May be a mental thing, just how I feel though.
Nahh I doubt it's mental. You know your own body better than any one of these Juiceheads know it lol. I take you at your word. And yea big surge for me with E first day.
Thanks man. Glad to be back. Yeah I remember you liked Cyp more now.. Maybe I convert more from it than E. Folks say they both are interchangeable and I agree but they do affect certain folks differently. Nothing mental about it.
Yep. This right here. Tried both and my body reacts wholly different between. I prefer Enan as well.
See there's definitely something to this. We need to do another forum on this issue.
Yup some are better than others. I was reading even the ph in the oils and solvents can help you absorb testosterone better. I’ll post a link for the article if I can find it again
Yep I kinda knew about the solvents helping. Didn't know about the pH of the oil though.
I‘ve heard of various carrier oils causing different side effects, given all other factors being equal.
RustyhookerOr maybe one was made on some hotplate at 3am after 3days of meth binge. But the label was so pretty!!
No....what youre experiecing is real pharma(if its real) versus ugl. Theres great ugl yes but how do you know? Noone wants to fully run a REAL pharma cycle with bloods and then compare. Folks post bloods often with subpar numbers and the fanboys....wow its fyre, great numbers. Compared to what?
So say youre body doesnt convert highly to estrogen and per Dr Scalley a pharma cycle WILL BE 500mg = 5000 on your bloods. And your ugl was 2750.....which would give more potential fir sides? Which one gave you what you paid for?
Im old so before eroids i ran only pharma. Theres really good ugl here on site. But youll only know with nloods each cycle. Even the trt guys running ugl trt know they must test and adjust. Top shelf ugl is damn close to or over dosed slightly. But proof is why you got questions.
Good post! Real talk
Well when you say side effects yes acne is and can be a side effect of testosterone. Also being underground we really don't know what impurities that are in the raws from underground suppliers. Now some underground suppliers do have raws with less impurities so this isn't a knock on the underground but just stating facts. If acne is your only side effect I wouldn't worry. Just be sure to really cleanse whatever area well when showering and maybe have some wipes to wipe off sweat during exercise.