Then i wouldnt have a problem with it. Hormone replacement is different than using heroin, liquor to escape my problems and not deal with it. I was using them as a way out. I dont abuse steroids like the old WWF wrestlers of old. Anything can be abused. Its the intention your using it and the reason your using something that makes it right or wrong. Now when i start making steroids my idol or it causes me to commit sins is when i believe i have crossed over and its time to lay it to bed. Its not first in my life so right now its not threatening my integrity as a man, father or husband. When my priorities become jumbled or reversed from 1. Sobriety 2. Family 3. Job, then im doing wrong. Steroids will never be in that top 3 priority list of my life.

Hey congrats on the 2 years! Something I have noticed is, the negative stigma around gear, that comes from so many people using it in extremely uneducated ways and inevitably suffering negative long term effects, causes many others in recovery to have judgments about gear without any first hand knowledge. Hell, one of my friends in recovery told me he didn't think Hafthor uses gear because he doesn't look like a bodybuilder! Anyway, before I get too far off topic and into a rant, My opinion on gear and recovery is, it's completely on the user to decide if they are being rigorously honest with themselves, or if they are in denial. I know some guys that would absolutely be using if they jumped on gear, because they would willingly do it compulsively and without any attempt to educate themselves. It would be a horrible disaster. I think most people who wind up on eroids and are making the effort to do this as rationally as they can, then they're likely not using. BUT if it's causing negative outcomes in other areas of their life, and they refuse to accept that, then there might be some using going on there.

There's also something to be said about compounds like tren, and about short or no ester versions of compounds. These things for sure have the potential to generate an active addiction/compulsion. Not to say we can't use them, but I think my point there is fairly obvious.

Congrats on two years.

208 Great question~! I'm working on 12 years (08/22/2008). I had a difficult in my head about claiming recovery while taking testosterone, tren, deca, or whatever. For me those substances are mood altering and beneficial. Withdrawal is painful when i go off cycle. Sounds like symptoms of addiction to me. I regularly attend 12-step meetings, read recovery literature, do service to my community, participate in sponsorship. I asked my sponsor(man with 35 years of Recovery and sponsorship) once about ordering prescription drugs online without a Rx. He said "Do what you need to do, but I'll ask you to change your clean date." NA teaches we must abstain from all drugs without a prescription and doctor supervision. It is not a simple situation. Cycling AS is complicated, and my doctor is no help on this topic. I feel like my lack of trust and honesty with others on this topic puts a barrier between me and people I care about. I am willing to live with all this. Benefits of Anabolic steroids is worth it. You have to decide for yourself. Be cautious and self-aware. Be well~!

Hey man great question. I'm not making ANY solid claims, but in my experience using subs and running gear, I have had a positive synergistic effect. For one, long term opiate use lower testosterone enough to cause secondary hypogonadism. So, building heeps of muscle naturally while using subs long term, after having used heroin or whatever for years before that, just isn't likely. But obviously when running test that is no longer an issue. So that's an example of how gear aids subs. Subs also aid gear for me, in the sense of, compounds that normally cause insomnia, simply do not. That's about as far as i'm willing to go without getting too out there in my anecdotal claims. The problem is tho, that cycling isn't a great method while running opiates due to their suppressive nature. So more people turn to blasting and cruising. And that's just the more rational people. Many MORE people turn to blasting and blasting because they came off the streets and now all the want is BIGGER NOW. Until 3-5 years later when they are in meetings condemning steroids because they "ruined their health".

I did and didn't have any problems...i took subzolv and didnt have any issues i just slowly pyramided down over a couple months ...workouts great gained muscle got back in shape

I did medicinally for 2 months until I switched to Methadone daily; suboxone or its cousins, subutex, etc,
It is Harder to work toward that painful pump in the gym. But my pain threshold is high. I can handle alot of pain which can be dangerous for lifting heavy weights, because of this stuff I take. That's just my opinion and my doc just tells me to bri g my Testostrrone levels back to normal. He knows that I lift and knows about my medication etc. you just need to use your own judgement when lifting. Everybody is different. But that stuff will numb you significantly, they are a synthetic opioid pain med and are prescribed for pain. I cant say if it's good or bad unless misused or abused, but that goes with anything mind altering or a central nervous system depressent.
I'm not complaining. Im under a docs and nurses care. I'm putting this out there for your Info; lot of professional athletes and bodybuilders whom are prone to Injuries....that synthetic crap Nubane is supposed to be bad news but that's just from what I read and I'm not condoning its use. All opiates or its derivatives are painfully addicting and ruin shit, but work well for those painful pumps and soreness.

Glad u were able to pick up the pieces & get your life back! Never look back & keep moving forward!

Good for you My man! :-) A massive achievement ....

I can imagine gambling easily becoming very addictive - I got quite attached to doing lottery scratch cards about 8 years ago, it came from nowhere just going into a shop to do the odd one to having to do 3 every time I bought something in general. Its the euphoria and adrenaline rush you get when you win that you begin to chase isn't it - constantly thinking this 'could be the big one' & if I don't buy it I could have just lost out on an opportunity to change my life. Luckily I had to stop as my finances simply wouldn't allow me to carry on doing it, I was also an alcoholic at the time and drink easily took presidency over scratch cards Lol! Otherwise I was the one rattling at 6am no joke ....

Really Great to hear that mate and honestly extremely well done :-)) Looks like you made some amazing progress from your picture & in those circumstances.

I'd say go for it Bud - people will read into your emotion and how its said more than your broken Spanish.

Yeh C'mon man - You know you are stronger than that

Thanks for sharing your anniversary here. Sorry my response is late, I was at a Classic car auction for 3 days. Hugs to you~!

Nice one man :))

Congrats!

Awesome. Life is good, congrats brother

Congratulations bro

Congratulations mate!

Hey mate, I've got a question I've been meaning to ask for a while to someone who's recently got out if thats okay. I realise a lot of guys train in their cells to keep motivation up and stay positive through it all which of course training is Awesome for - But isn't it a real head doer when you've finished as when you are feeling great and want to get out and about like you would after a normal gym session you are still confined in a room and can't do anything but stay put? Doesn't it feel like a bit of a double edged sword?