posted Wed, 08/14/2013 - 16:29
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so im 3 weeks in on a cycle right now and i like to keep a log
started this cycle off with Halo at 30mg/d and ended it after 3 weeks at 40mg/d
I stopped halo 3 days ago so I could get a good feel of the oils, all my oils are from the same source.
cycle lat out is
Test-c 250mg/w 1-20
primo-e 900mg/w 1-20
EQ 900mg/w 1-20
tren-e 400mg/w 1-20
mast-e 500mg/w 1-20
I might throw some more halo in there later in the cycle.
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So I added in MENT about 7 days ago and dropped the EQ cause it was giving me bad tren sides.
right now im running
test 250mg/w
tren-a 75mg/d
npp 75mg/d
ment 25mg/d
feel alot better on these compounds then any of the others, certaining starting filling out the last few days, thats what MENT did to me as a stand alone compound as well. sleep is not to bad, alot better then it has been all cycle. I have lost some endurance for sure. believe it or not sex drive is still the same. Keep in mind tren, NPP, MENT/trestolone are all 19nors. I havent touched an AI or SERM at all this cycle. Ive never ran 3 19nors, ive never even heard of someone doing it so feel kinda in uncharted waters here. got everything I need in hand if necessary. hoping to run these compounds for another 6 weeks or so
dropped the primo and mast a few weeks back, continued on with
test 250mg/w
EQ 1150mg/w
added in 4 days ago
tren-a 75mg/d
NPP 75mg/d
still running growth right now at 3iu, 5 on 2 off
What is your take on the primo? As far as any noticeable differences from cycles without it. One of the biggest things that I noted was I didn't have to use ai like I normally would
endurance was about it, my diet isnt dialed in enough for me to be running the stuff. its really a compound for very advanced users, in all areas of BODY BUILDING. not really for a guy like me that just does this for fun. I wouldnt run it again unless I could dedicate the time necessary for the results the compound offers.
Yes I agree I got greater endurance as well also a mood elevation unless I was just in a better mood for awhile. It will be interesting to see how the MENT works out from the last time @100mgs for you. I still really like that compound not to mention the sterilization benefits.
RustyhookerNice to see the switches! The joy of knowin your body and short Esters.
im gonna give it a few weeks to fully kick and then add in low dose of MENT 50mg/d and see how different it is from stand alone.
RustyhookerI keep looking at sdrol as finisher/hardener. Just gotta be ready with liver helpers.
just wondering why u keep the test so low? mutas cycle was similar to this just wondering
less sides
and also allows the primo to give a "crisper, tighter more metallic finish"
thanks man I didn't know now I do lol
STOMACH BLOAT...... eat 8oz of fresh pineapple after every meal bro, the enzyme bromelain will break down foodstuffs quicker and reduce any gas which is causing the bloat feeling.... in turn allows more cals to consumed = more weight gain.
This will also end the bruising effect that the wifes fist creates due to the lingering fart stench in the boudier... lmfaooooo
"This will also end the bruising effect that the wifes fist creates due to the lingering fart stench in the boudier"
LMFAO!!!! Didn't know that about the pineapple for bloat. Is there anything you don't know about brother? Hahaha
And papaya, too, right?
right!... but not as strong bro
I have been thinking about posting this since RN said something....I hope he tries it and it helps.....I always feel cleaner after pineapple....
yeah ive been using it for years when bulking.... once i get above 4000 cals i have problems with digestion and this sorts it for me.... when i pre-prep at night i just pop the PA in a tupperware with the rest of the stuff, and it also freshens the mouth after eating broccoli or spinach.... little bit of fructose and sucrose dont go amiss either with the energy levels lol.
Good info....I will always keep this in my memory bank....You ever heard of Reglan, or metoclopramide?
yeah i have a wiki about it..... lemme find it bro it could be good info for others...........
here we go.............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metoclopramide
We would use that to stimulate the GI tract. 10mg IV is a hefty dosage, probably cause diarrhea on everybody...lol. 5mg IV isn't to bad on the body.
The PO dosages take longer to break down, but will probably help process the food quicker. Nephrology and Gastrointerology use this for gastro-paresis, bowel stimulation, etc.
I don't think it is as good as PA, but for severe cases of bloat it could alleviate some discomfort.
i agree bro.... i must admit apart from my AAS i try to stick to natures best instead of going down the prescription route... and stuff like this is NOT easy to get hold of in the UK.
so I went out and tried the lactaid yesterday and about 30 minutes after meal heartburn and bloat where both apparent, so I ate some pineapple and both seemed to go away, not fully but it was there only faintly. I did it again after lunch today and same effect, seems like the pineapple does indeed work, thank you sir!
Man I am so glad that the pineapple worked! I just went and got some myself.
You are welcome brother... the more regular you use it the enzyme becomes part of the gut acids and produces a stronger longer lasting effect
Its like taking pro-biotics eveyrday.. it sorta becomes part of you if you know what i mean lol
Genius Guru! I just got the pineapple for myself! Again huge thanks for something seemingly so simple yet I never knew it.
BigBmajOr take a digestive enzyme. Many of them have bromelain in them as well, the enzyme in pineapple.
I explained that lower down the thread.
And whats with TABS TABS TABS.... why not eat natures best instead of just swallowing tons of fkn TABS..... folks are taking that many fkn TABS they must rattle when they walk..... get back to basics and start eating REAL fkn food again.... it makes a massive difference to longevity trust me.
haha
good advice right here Guru
Lmfao!!
Weve all been there bro.... we can only blame the dog so for so long!!
jeez vike... no one buys the dog excuse ..
alright alright i give in then!... have you way and go ahead and blame me then i can take it lol
my wife is a vegetarian brother i cherish those protein farts but they only a fraction of some of the cat shit smells she puts out!
You never fail to make me Lmao!!
pineapple! I love the juice but it also does that to me. what is bromelain?
Its an enzyme in the pineapple bro....... in the old days when the slave ships used to be around the guys used to be onboard for fkn months and months.. food ran out and they ended up having to eat nothing but the fruits they had collected on the tropical islands... anyways after weeks of eating nothing but pineapples the sailors lips started to melt away and the teeth fell out, this enzyme was eating the flesh away..... these days pineapple bromelain is one of the major ingredients in all the digestive tablets and caps supps companies sell.... check out some labels to see for yourself bro.
Heres a link to a post i wrote about it while back...............
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/important-guys-using-my...
cool thanks so you suggest I add pineapple juice with my big protein meals?
NOT juice bro.... eat the raw pineapple flesh thats were the enzyme is in massive quantities.
starting donating blood today. unfortunately I got to pull the tren due to work and need to get my sleep. atleast until I figure out this new program we are switching too. I added in HGH at 4iu about 10 days ago.
everything is good except im getting some bloat when i eat that is making it extremely difficult to eat. any suggestions to clear that up would be great, I get it on most cycles i run at some point of the cycle, very strange and I still havent figured it out.
Oral anadrol does this to me, I would be surprised if the halo did this to you even though you have stopped. This is going to seem unorthodox but try this go get some lactaid pills, they can be found in almost any store, take them before you eat meals for the next 4-5 days. This will balance out your stomach alkaline and acid ratios. Let me know if you try this, it works for me every time.
thanks brother ill give it a shot, its really screwing my cycle up gains wise.
thats a good idea Pank, I may try it.. I've been using prilosec though because in addition to the bloat I always get really nasty heartburn ...
You know my wife told me this she is well versed in the medical field. She said that her patients with other orals had these bloat issues with their medications. She then told me there is an enzyme in the lactaid pills that helps restore proper digestive function. So I gave it a shot and it works every time. I actually stopped using oral anadrol because it killed my appetite. It felt like I was full with gas or shit lol but nothing would come out.
me too when the bloat is strong heart burn is horrendous. ive gone through a 96 tablets tums in like 2 weeks, wake up in the middle of the night taking them, happens only when im on cycle.
I combined the prilosec which is prescription strength ( I doubled it mind you one didn't work) and with a quarter tab of aromasin .. and it seems to do the trick as long as I take it ... if I skip a day then I m fucked and the heartburn is god awful and yes only while on cycle and it is not related to taking orals either ... ;-(
do you have acid reflux or a special diet? it could just be your diet and when you are on cycle you eat high calorie high protein diet so you are eating more of that food causing the bloat
this cycle is coming along ok, just about 50 days into it, primo is REALLY hard to feel, other then some endurance that i normally wouldnt have on a tren cycle i can hardly tell it is there. tren dose was a little low as well so i bumped it up some. switched primo sources today just to see if I can tell any difference with a different sources primo. EQ should be kicking in another 3 weeks. ive certainly put on some size and cut some BF%. So far enjoying this cycle.
Thanks for the log you always have great details. I just finished a while ago a 20 week primo run. I was subtle the best part that I noticed above all with the primo is when I missed meals I did not drop any weight. Also I had a good appetite on it.
im getting some intense pumps and growing like a weed, people have been already making lots of comments. But im paying for it right now, nerves in shoulders and traps are very painful and I literally have to sit and relax my body between sets for the pain to subside, as soon as I stand up it comes back. Also having the same problems in my arms, wake up with horrible pains from them going to sleep. cant even feel my fingers to turn off the alarm clock, ive got the cord set up so I can pull it out of the wall before my girl wakes up and knocks me the FAAK out.
endurance and strength have improved drastically in the last week. not experiencing the tren sides sides like i always have before, got to attribute that to low dose test. I felt it the first day it hit but since then have been in a pretty good state of mind and other then sleep pains in arms ive been getting decent rest of about 7 hours a night.
weight has been hovering around 216-219 which is cool with me as the mirror is the real test and im filling out very nicely.