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+ 11 Worst Cycles of eroids - How NOT TO DO IT

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Am I imagining it, or is it post a ridiculous cycle month? I'm being deadly serious here, some of the stuff posted over the last few days is mind numbing. Here we are on a forum FULL to the brim with a variety of posts detailing beginner cycles, intermediate cycles, all nicely arranged in groups and stickies yet still people post up stuff that shows little or no research or understanding of the compounds involved.

So, as it's apparently tricky to track down all the sensible cycles, I've decided after discussion with a few of our regular members and mods to make it easy to find HOW NOT TO DO IT.

This is how it will work. You can post up the cycles and their links, (I want to see la crème de la crème here), and we can discuss / dismantle in a (largely) constructive way. Exceptions can be made for extreme stupidity, ADV/EXP tags posting stupid stuff, these are all acceptable candidates for ridicule and humiliation without recourse. The front runners will be moved into this posts text as examples to show others WHAT and WHY they shouldn't run this.

So, you give:

Cycle.
Link.
OP Stats.
What's wrong in your opinion.

In return, you get, well, very little to be honest. Hopefully at least a small amount of entertainment and more importantly contribute to others learning what's appropriate, what isn't and why.

Keep it constructive. Let's try and avoid anyone being over sensitive and taking things too personally. Sometimes we learn better from the negatives.

Winner - week commencing 2nd March. Spotted by Rolltide.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/cycle-and-pct-help

The one to beat. In my eyes the worst / most inappropriate I think I've ever seen in my time here:

https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/eqtest-etest-proptren-anpptbolsuperdrol

The Impastable's picture

Very fishy.... Slowly putting together all the info he needs... If he is truly catfishing, then I am impressed. Beats the ridiculous fucking posts that pop up from all the springtime bunnies.

The Impastable's picture

Another fucking knucklehead...

https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/4th-cycle-cutting

Can't figure out how he's in over his head, but he's already started lol...

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Dickkhead's picture

Yeah, that about does it for me. It's beyond time just to go through the whole log section and just delete all the crap.

Catalyst's picture

I saw that. I can't even bring myself to comment much these days. Three quarters of the suggested cycles I read are over the top. Let 'em crack on with it.

vhman's picture
Catalyst's picture

Coincidentally I'd literally just read that one.

Catalyst's picture

Just clicked on the links that were posted while I was away. Surprisingly half of them are deleted, typical. Obviously of high quality....

Makwa's picture

Ooohhh brother. Haven't logged on in a few weeks but it looks like things haven't changed much.

Dacky's picture

Stupid is as stupid does :-P

Catalyst's picture

Not a cycle, but no doubt soon to be one. That aside, oh so very worthy of its inclusion here:

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/new-to-steroids

Awaken The BeAsT's picture

This work has by no means been easy on my third week and Def seeing results thanks again rusty!!!!

irongame427's picture

This is how i build my base naturally, push pull legs, off repeat ( and i did deads and squats twice a week in there) . 40lbs in 7 months was the result, my friends just told me to eat, and eat alot. Definitely not all muscle by any means but when you start at 125 you can gain muscle alot faster then a guy starting at 170lbs like a normal 21 year old. I used it for about 3 years. Great split, the thing is as a noob like I was the weight youre moving isnt as stressful to ones CNS. This plan gives plenty of rest to each muscle group, but you tax the same CNS every single workout. When i started i was doing dumbell press with like 30s, and deads with 95lbs lol, it was bad man i was a weak twig. But after a year I was pulling 405, took about 2 years to start moving the 100lb dumbells for reps etc, but when the weight got heavier like that it was much more taxing to my cns, I couldnt do it year round. I had to run it in 8 week phases like you said and nomore or I would suffer CNS burnout.

With a program like this, youre talking 36 sets for chest twice a week, You reallly have to be a college student, or just have no responsibilites, cause you need to eat ALOT, and sleep ALOT, 10 hours a night, id take a 2 hour nap after training. This is incredibly taxing on an experiencd lifter. The more weight you move the more stress to your cns, and like i said thats the same cns you hit every workout, so you really have to listen to your body. To this day I still run this split from time to time. But for the increased frequency ( hiting everything twice a week) I have to lower the volume, like 12 sets max for chest back legs, 9 for delts, 6-8 for bis and same for tris, etc.

But I love it, instead of hiting everything 52 times a year you get to hit it 104 times a year. I really believe frequency trumps volume. 16 sets twice a week will produce more muscle growth then 32 sets once a week. thats just my opinion. But my arms would never ever grow with hitting them with 24 sets once a week, let alone doing that twice, to get mine growing again me vike had to brainstorm and decide on 6 sets for bis and 6 sets for tris one a week, and theyre growing again. Before this I was just annilating them like in this split (except once a week) and they werent growing.

At the end of the day you gotta find what works best for you. But without this split and using it those first few years I would be where i am today.

Dickkhead's picture

Don't let this happen to you . . . LMFAO Smile

This forum post was submitted by a trainer for a client who has a competition history as a natty. The trainer's expertise is in prepping natty athletes for BB comps. The athlete wanted to do his first enhanced prep and the trainer attempted to build a prep cycle for his client by reading and cutting and pasting stuff together. The trainer has no experience working with PEDs. What boggles the mind is the scope of the trainer's vision for a first prep for his client using gear. As Catalyst pointed out, what the trainer is proposing is certainly suitable in concept for a bodybuilder with 10+ years of steroid experience. The potential for a full on train wreck for the newbie athlete is astonishing. Soak it all in.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/feedback-on-cont...

Catalyst's picture

Like I said in that thread if I found a trainer advising a client like that in my gym he'd be out of my place before he could collect his stuff from the changing room.

Dickkhead's picture

Stateside, the kids in the gym are a wreck nowadays. At 38, a 26 year old seems like a kid to me. Worse every year. 18 year olds covered in cystic acne. I've given up. Used to be I'd find a guy maybe two each year and do a little mentoring if I saw real drive and potential. No more. Really was almost like a ministry thing. The owner knows who the gym dealer is. I'm so laid back it's hard to even say this, Cat, but I would beat the living crap out of the dealer and kick the creep to the curb. I don't even know if the stuff he is selling to the kids is even sterile. Even Trenned up I'm a teddy bear, but this stuff just burns me up. I absolutely hate violence, but it has its uses in extreme circumstances. As the owner of your gym, you can't be running around dislocating guys' shoulders although I'm sure you could do it in 30 sec without breaking a sweat. At least keep the dealers from working the floor with the young ones in your place . . . . and I guess in this case the wannabee trainers and coaches who have even greater potential to do harm than the straight drug guys.

Catalyst's picture

In my gym that's probably exactly what would have happened.

Catalyst's picture

I feel exactly the same mate. I'm certainly becoming way less tolerant than I used to be.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

I just spent half an hour typing a long post here, then when i read it back i thought fuck it!...... and deleted it.

I have NO answers of how to rebutt the stupidity we see regularly...... my mind is numbed to it now guys............ sorry, i think i have just got too long in the tooth for even giving thought to how we can make changes for the better.

Catalyst's picture

Even I'm getting argumentative lately. I'm normally the peacemaker, I think those times have gone.

bolt781's picture

Fk it brother...put forth all your energy towards your comeback...this storm shall pass...

Catalyst's picture
Makwa's picture

If I run Dbol at beginning of cycle and anavar and winni at the end, I thought I was bulking and cutting during the same cycle Smile

irongame427's picture

No, don't you know winny at the end solidifies gains?? I remember when that was a common belief on some other dumbass forums lol. Yes adding another drug at the end is gonna help you keep you gains. If you googl the phase you'll get like 100s of hits from 08-2011 or so, hell maybe people stil believe that shit. They forgot the whole food solidifies gains thing. Always trying to make drugs the answer.

Catalyst's picture

You are. You don't even have to change your diet or your training. Just the drugs.

X + Dbol = bulk
X + Var = cut
2X + 2Var = cut twice as much
5X +5dbol = Phil Heath in 7 days

Simple.

bolt781's picture

I agree... there is no way throwing down a workout like you did this morning is responsible for your growth and progression!

Dacky's picture

Stop sharing these closely guarded secrets :-p. We can't have everyone knowing all it takes is drugs and dosage manipulation to achieve greatness.

Catalyst's picture

I don't even lift, just a bucket load of steroids.

kodiakGRRL's picture

yo.. what math school did you go to .... lol... i d like to check out their curriculm and maybe apply to take the class myself

Catalyst's picture

Smile

Catalyst's picture

For those of you that think you're not getting results, it could be worse. 4 cycles to get yo 160lbs.....

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/lean-gain-cycle

Catalyst's picture

No, this one has loads of excuses too so it's a great idea apparently ;) he wrote me a novel to explain see.....

vhman's picture

https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/novice-1

This is a real winner! Ran a 12 week cycle (500 mg of test-c). Took four weeks of and jumped back on. Did run "clomid during week three of that", so he's G2G!
Also states he read that you don't need a PCT on 500 mg from all his research and all his friends who've been cycling for 15 years. So again, he's fine and doesn't need our advice.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Lol........... yeah i was in there earlier.

His latest statement about his "friends" who do more than 350mg test on "cruise cycles" cracks me up the most................. this fucker doesnt know nothing!!... and his friends sound like a bunch of fkn numb nutz too.

Gotta laugh at shit like this ....... because this fucker is UNeducatable imo