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+ 10 THE RECOVERY LOUNGE!....N/A, A/A, C/A, or any other Anonymous drug program!
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Welcome to the recovery lounge, this is safe place where eroid members can talk about recovery, steroids and recovery, or any other topic! There seems to be many of us here on eroids, there will surely be different fellowships in here and they are all welcome! Other eroid brothers are welcome to come and join the lounge if they would like, its open to the public!
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Welcome to the clan man. This is a great support group cuz folks here can relate in ways your NA friends cant regarding AAS
PhishphanThanks brother!! I really felt out of place and taken back cause i thought i was the only 1 who was/is an addict taking gear ya know! Mice to know we arnt alone..
How r u doing these days?
Prescribed around the clock opiates but no longer exceeding recommended dose or railing it or anything. Not having fun just managing pain. Hbu
PhishphanIm good. On suboxone maintence. Was 2 a day and now 1 a day. Trying to get down to half and then off. Its damn hard. Ya know..
Ive tried to go with out em but i cant. The longest is a day.2 tops.
I am glad to see people beating this demon! Im my town it seems ever1 is an addict an no1 is beating the addiction.
just switched from methadone to suboxone last week and plan to be off the subs in the next 2 months
Good luck brother I was on for three years I had to get myself down to a little sliver a day, I was cutting the small enough to make one last about 5-7 days after my body got used to that which took about 4 days I was able to stop, it was uncomfortable at first but not to bad, I just had my mind made up that I was done!! I was put on pain killers from a bad accident and we know how that goes but my dr told me that subs would help me get off and be easier to quite.. I found out that that was bs after awhile, it was just another thing to be addicted to... Good luck to you and hope you find this to be helpful, if you really make your mind up you will have no problems, just takes some time..
BigBmajGo to 3/4 then 1/2 then 1/4 then a small sliver.
Back in the day I used to get bottles of bupe and it was only .8 mg injectable. I would use 1/2 a bottle and be ok. That is like 1/32 of an 8 mg strip. The strips are dosed surprisingly high. I was on 32 mg a day for a long ass time. Worse detox I've even experienced.
on done for 4 years now i did fall off for a lil bit like 6 months ago i went down to fast i was at 4mg and picked up like an ass im tapering again im at 50 now im almost of this fucking merry go round lol glad i found this page
celebrated 5 years clean a little while back. feeling blessed to be out of the lifestyle
That's awesome bro. I imagine that's a really good feeling !
BigBmajGreat job! How often do you hit meetings?
my first 16 months I did 12 a week faithfully, worked the steps, started building my life and learning how to get through shit, as I got busier I dropped down to 5 or so a week and always 3 service positions. in the last year I have tapered down to a couple a week and dropped my last service commitment last month. But i sponsor men and stay connected in H&I anytime im needed. I only have one person that I talk to that isnt in recovery and thats my receiver.
That's awesome congrats on being clean, I've been on suboxone for over two years now. The withdrawal from them is horrible for me. Im down to 3/4 of a strip from 3 a day. I go to 4 meetings a month and they are for people recovering on suboxone. Slowly but surely getting there. Was on opiates for 10 years before i found suboxone rehab
BigBmajThat's great to hear you helping so many guys. Think back to when you were green, remember those guys helping you out? I couldn't have done it without those people.
Anonx2
AnonGood stuff brotha. I have had an h&I commitment since I been clean. Gotta do some service. Gotta give back. Thats where I learned it from. Its one of the reason I do it here
Congrats...I think its interesting that so many people who are succesful in this lifestyle have had to overcome a history of using
Anoncongrats brotha
whats up brothers! glad to see some people posting back in here. hope everyone is killing it in the gym
Anonyes sir
I was thinkin the same thing. I sure do enjoy seein new posts here though. Stay clean all! Six years in a few weeks. No fronts. I know i know. Be cool folks
AnonCongrats. I know its a lil early.We can stay clean forever as ling as we do it jft
It is a total miracle that i have stayed clean this long and it says alot more about the members of NA than it does about me! I learned sooo much from all of you..
AnonOne addict helping another Is without parallel
I hope everyone is just too busy with service commitments and sponsorship to be on here 3 weeks no posts
How all is well brothers !
AnonHahaaha well said
Ace VenturaI'm all gravy. I don't really work a program these days though. I am back on the roids, so that's pretty nice. Hope all is well with you! :~)
05/25/10.... this is awesome and a great idea. Thank you!!!
Ace VenturaYou! I need to hit you up one of these days.
AnonHoly shit. I been on this site and never knew this existed. I'm a grateful recovering addict with 8 years clean. Love this site and I'm glad people in recovery are welcome here
Ace VenturaYeah, there are a lot of us. I've been sober forever and a day, sometimes I can't even believe who I used to be. I learned a lot though. Congrats on the 8 years brother. Drinking and drugging is no way to live life.
AnonThanks ace. Good to see u in here
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkJohnny the BullI wanted to say that 8 years ago I was in a terrible place. My girlfriend was a coke head and worked as an escort. I started using coke myself on and off for ohh around 6 years. Mainly just binging as I still worked out and stayed healthy except for the binges. How I came clean is one day I just left went to the bus and took the bus home and never looked back. I have been clean ever since. I fell in with a bad crowd and the atmosphere created a lot of stress. I used a lot of times to get away from the stress but it never worked till I left. In order to come clean, I believe you have to take a long look at what is causing the use of drugs. There is always something. Once you have found this, you can focus on treating yourself. If you are not strong enough to do it alone then you may need professional help.
Johnny the BullAmen.
CJ,
Glad you brought that up. Ive always been fascinated with documentaries about guys in the joint, and one of the things that blow me away is...What is looking good and being big varies quite a lot from prison to prison. Yes Im sure the politics of who "controls" the weight area is going to play a big part as well as what equipment is available. But I have always had a suspicion. Since prison food in most(not all) places is not nutritious, and probably way too high in carbs and starch as well as not being very assimilatable as much as fresh food, as I know some of the food has been frozen for months. So my suspision is , how do some guys look like walking tanks, have a six pack, and weigh over 220 with hardly any body fat.And at other places, you cant see one guy with a six pack and if you do, he is a skinny guy who just does situps ,pushups and squats with no weight all day long. On one hand, I think the benefit of using "body-weight only" exercises has been way underestimated as Lou Ferrignos trainer once told me as a kid that the best legs he ever saw was on a guy who did only body weight squats and calf raises for his legs.But as easy as it is for those guys to get what they need to get high(and id probably be the first guy in line if I was stuck doing years and years) I wonder why nobody ever talks about inmates being on gear. I say 25% of the guys who look incredible, not just a nice V-shape and toned abs( think of Brad Pitt) HAVE to be on gear of some kind. My amazement is that even with shows like Lockdown and lockup...it never gets mentioned. .So CJ, am I right? Not that you would know of course, but just an educated guess if you had to make one. Id have PMed you because Im afraid the same 5 guys are going to make a federal case out of this. After this question...its back to addiction related stuff,ok gentlemen? -)
I'm sure we all would be kinda curious. And in fact cj, what blows me away is the inverse...when I see docs' on prison life and they have specials focusing on how some of these guys do nothing BUT work out or exercise....some of these guys dont look like they do anything. Is it the crappy food, they cant eat the food or they 'lose' their food? Thanx. In fact I will send you a friend request now in case you dont feel like answering this on the board. good training ,all!
ps-As an aside, Im feeling better today than I have in a long time. I pray those B-12 shots(methylcobalamin) I give myself 2x a week are finally kicking in after 3 or 4 weeks.
Im sure you are right CJW1, As i said, I am sorry I even brought it up. It was a "read it and move on topic." lol But as long as you have cut down your oxys to under 3 a day and no more than 5 or 6 lines to go with the tren base and tne, i wouldnt worry much about the heart palpitations. your good. -)
Actually, seriously, im just wondering what to do with my tramadol consumption. It mimics an opiate but because its really not, it is harder to get off of, than regular opiates. Harder than heroin some nurses have posted elsewhere. And I cant determine why Im losing my zest to workout...if its just too much pain pills or just being 54. rememeber an in shape 54 and being on medication is not an in shape 34yr old who is also on pain meds. I need to start a thread: Who is over 40 and losing their desire to workout-tell us why!
Anyone else feel like training is pointless on opiates, prescribed doses or otherwise?
im having that feeling right now im tapering down on methadone and it feels like im going backwards in the gym research opiate abuse with low testosterone and the effects it has on your thyroid ive been reading all i can i cant wait till im off this shit i think i got 10 weeks to go
Have you asked your doc about TRT? cuz yes all opiates suppress natural production.
So you have tried and failed to make gains while on opiates? My beef is the gym seems like its 50 miles away when im on opiates/tramadol and therefore lose motivation to train, and was hoping the gear would offset that...but for me it hasnt. I have no doubt, many guys we would be shocked to hear about are usiang opiates and gear and training like animals. Drugs affect people so differently. But I want more opinions about your inquiry, as well, oversteer. My problem is that I cant count myself as the perfect test subject because of my age. I was losing my interest to train hard in my 40's, 10 yrs ago, and long before i ever did an opiate. It would be interesting if they did a survey to find out what the average competing bodybuilder from like 20-30 yrs ago who is now 45-50 and 50-60 have done in modifying the amount of sets, weight and time spent in the gym, if they are even in there at all now. I wonder how many sets Arnold does a day at his age?????????
Yeah, my lifts drop too much, dont have the appetite for the calories I need, cant ever seem to get a pump (and thats when I even get to the gym)
Thanks steer, I was beginning to think you had to be physically ill to lose your energy and/or motivation. I guess what my not very sensitive sister once said to me is quite true when I was lamenting about not having the choices(in everything) I had just 15 yrs ago. She said........... "Brother, I dont care how good you take care of yourself, what you eat or what you do, eventually you are going to be old and grey, and thats the fun part! At that point your skin really starts drying up and getting age spots and wrinkles on your wrinkles until one day you look in the mirror and say "Who the Fu%k is that? And then in a few years,(if you're lucky, you die." (Nahhhh, let me take gear now while my skin is still that of a 39 year old , from the neck down,anyway.-)
Do we really want to look like that grey haired guy on the testosterone ads who has a ripped physique with a 77 yr old face and silver hair. Fu&K that!! Thats almost as bad as wearing a toupee!!!LOL .
AND IF ONE IS ON OPIATES(which I am) you may not even be motivated to hit 57or 58 and still work out. Dont get depressed guys. I know that all the moderators on this board are pushing the vendors day and night to work feverishly to invent the "OVER 65 ANABOLIC". I say Banner or Big D invents it first. Do I hear any Yays!........ or Nays! Look, if a putz like Austin Powers can get Beyonce, I cant give up on gear even at 75. LOL (yes I definitely have my issues.lol )
THE FOLLOWING WORKS FOR ME; Let them find me dead at that age before Im too dried up: bent over the weight bench with 3 syringes in my ass,1- tren A, 1- tne AND 1- test prop, loaded to the max ml's.... a dumbell in my hand, in the middle of a concentration curl and my laptop sitting on the next bench over... with e-roids on the screen with Nitti screaming at some guy.."THIS IS NOT A REVIEW!.DO THAT SHIT AGAIN AND YOUR GONE!!!"What better way is there to be remembered than that???!!!!!!
I just wanted to write in here the substances; steroid-wise, that I would recommend staying away from if you are in recovery. And this applies to those IV drug users in particular, but not exclusively. #1- TNE or Test-Suspension. I say this because after injection I taste the drug, similar to when injecting cocaine, meth, heroin, or any other drug. This was a trigger for me, and made my heart rate explode immediately, and the anxiety was very high. Thinking about this now even makes me nervous lol. #2 Injectable Winstrol. Basically for the same reason as #1. I guess I could probably say anything with no-ester attached could fall into this category, but maybe I'm wrong in this assumption. #3 Dianabol. Wow, what a terrible choice on my part to use this crude substance to try and bulk up. Many people love, and swear by it, but for me it was too much. I felt sick on it. Lethargic, nauseous, dysphoric, anxious, no appetite, etc. While on it, I felt like I was kicking an opiate. It brought back a lot of those bad old times in my mind which in the end I used positively to re-assure myself how bad things were while using. Kinda like remembering the bad times to keep it green, or if you forget, you're doomed to repeat! Also, when I discontinued d-bol I was withdrawing from it. There's no doubt about it to me. Intense for about 3 days, and then it subsided over the next week until where I felt 100%. The feelings included: anxiety, dizziness, teary and weird feeling eyes. It made me nauseous to look at the computer for too long. That brings me to another side effect, nausea, and not being hungry, or when I did eat, I could only eat a little. I just did not feel good at all and it made me think about using. All these hormones did that, and that is why I am writing this. I am no expert in anything, recovery, or steroids, but I do have my personal experience with both. I have over 4 years of recovery, and several years of steroid use. I welcome any comments, concerns, or arguments against this. It's just some information that I personally felt. I'm not saying it will be like this for anyone else, but I just wanted to throw this out there. If it helps one person, my job is a success.
thats some good 411 man if i tasted anything after injecting it would def remind me about shooting coke it gives me chills thinking about it
Thanks so much for that info. Im five yrs clean and did alot of reaseach to make sure i didnt introduce any triggers into my cycle. Some of those steroids sound pretty enticing and for that reason ill stay away from them. Aint always easy stayin clean. Rather not take stuff if there is additional risk!!! Thanks again!!
No problem, and no it's not always easy staying clean, I hear that! Good luck with everything.
Johnny the BullMilk thistle has been used for 2000 years to help keep your liver healthy. Although it is not directly scientifically proven, it is indirectly proven to aid in recovery and a maintain a healthy liver.
Johnny the BullHi guys. I have also battled with a few addictions. I have my life under control now but I went through some rough patches too so I know how difficult it can be. God Bless You.
Thanks Johnny,
If you ever want to share some tips, books you've read, things you did to make getting life under control easier, feel free to post. We are all here to learn.
Johnny the BullI will in time. Very tired lately.