I do not think you have malicious intent. I just think the test is not accurate. If I am correct then posting the results is not good for the community.
He did not said is possible or impossible. If you do then you need to show a methodology. The only methodology on MS is for test cyp. He speak in general.
He is a professionist he say anything is possible if you have methodology. You have zero , your labs are full of mistakes and besides a big mouth nothing on your side
Oh really? Lmao like who? What labs do I promote on here? Do you see me nut hugging in the source pages ever? I have used balkan tbol from you before and loved it, best tbol I have ran. But that doesnt have shit to do with this.
You are being quite paranoid man, I hope this doesnt ruin our friendship.
Be nice if you could dial this back and let's all figure away to prove the testing right or wrong. I think we as a group could end this debate forever if we work together to do so.
How about you and I test their system of testing. I think the easiest way is to disprove dosage. Once it is proven dosage is wrong then the test should be considered wrong. If the dosage is tested and proven correct then we move to testing purity results.
No it was my code that had already been checked 3 times. Like I said, the other vial I had checked out fine but the one I had tested had already been checked 3 times. I already emailed balkan and have not yet received a reply.
I would say the best way to squash this is to send the rest of the contents in the vial you have to a lab that can test with HPLC. Let the source pay for it and let's see what the outcome is. Also Gymjunkie said he would send his batch in. Otherwise we can go back and forth here forever.
I'm with ya Fina. I guess we need to start looking into the accuracy of LC/MS/MS testing for concentration of Testosterone Serum in the Blood Work also. Hate to think all this testing we do is for nuffin. :(
Me too but I think it is. Like I said I can provide 3 samples of a compound with different doses if you want. I think posting ms results now is slander.
It can be a double edged sword I will agree. The Test Serum Blood results seem to always be different. Lots of other factors......but curious about the testing.....interesting.
Test E "mass spec"?
A. Is it from "Balken"
B. Yellow in color
Lots of questions about this test.....lots of unanswered questions about the source test results posted. Dates...what was tested...color of oil...etc
I've been called retarded...a photoshopper....ANGUS's business partner by this source....and the list goes on and on.....this Test E is clear in color with codes that have been checked 3 times.....still no answer.....maybe he can email his Professor friend....maybe I'll email Gilligan and Mary Ann
Also states Benzyol Benzoate is absent from the sample even though its listed on the ingredients of my vial. Still waiting to here back from balkan about the upic check
So many possibilities here. It seems to me your test was presented in a summary format. A shops professor seems to prefer the More lengthy presentation. It probanly xomes down to price, as far as the level of detail in the reported results. I'm guessing if you wanted a more detailed test report you would have to pay more.
Dear Sir/Madam,
We do use GC/MS we’ve set up a calibration line which we verify regularly and with this calibration line we can calculate the concentration of Testosterone Enanthate in the sample we prepared from your sample which we can then calculate back to the original sample we received from you.
In short it is definitely possible to use GC/MS to determine the concentration of steroids in a sample. In fact this is the most common method for steroid analysis.
Please post this lab information and professor i know will contact them. Regarding other answers you posted here we figured out who are the guys and professor I know will contact them pointing this thread.
Where is the methodology used by them according to international standards ?
Just for start please post methodology so we can talk at subject. You promised this from yesterday..where it is ?
You fail to answer any of my questions with simple and clear answers. You come with more confusing answers that make non sense
In few hours i will have answer from this professor and I will post here . He already told me people who posted this are a bunch of idiots. Sorry if you are offended but he is a professor and you are some peopls forging labs and emails. Anyway he cleared up all bullshit you posted he will translate for me and send text in next hours. Shame on you HailRazor and Jellotrip at the end I hope your karma will ne reseted to zero for this forgings
Man you are one hostile dude. You would think we are talking about something YOU ACTUALLY PRODUCE. You are a reseller brother. No more no less. It's not like balkan is something you should have pride in. It's just another product that you sell. Your problem is that you are too arrogant to see when something is wrong. In fact, I don't think I have ever read arrogance like I do when I read your posts. It's completely unprofessional. It's because of online forums like these that you make your living so try and control your emotions like an adult and start showing some respect.
He seems to always be right....but ill stay out of this. I just can't stand the credibility attacks on otherwise good members. Members who have in fact helped me. Sorry for the rants man but I can't wait to see how this ends up. Peace brother. Must be the gh
Its all good man, the support I have received from good people who know me here has more than validated my efforts.
People who want real pharma grade gear know where to go. At least its good to know if I need some cheap cancer drugs off ebay I have a source as well ;)
Hey my friend. Please mind your business. I was confronted once with same kind of guys Angus same kind of lies. I have enough bullshit. Do not expect to atack me with fake papers and have respect for you. I have no respect for liars. They hate this forum and rules here and they try to break the order by atacking sources or forum or more. Is hard for me also to complain with rules here but i do my best. Is second time with same kind of crooks and I expect some respect since I really work hard and I am honest. I am not a diplomat yes but this is my problem.
This is my business. I will tell you why its my Business. Primarily because I am a consumer and a loyal member of this forum. You, me, the mods, have no idea or PROOF That anyone is lying. Just because angus may have lied doesn't mean these guys are. When another source on here sold underdosed gear (and I'm not saying this Balkan test e is underdosed becausw no one seems to know) he came on here, apologized and owned up to the mistake. So yes this is In fact my business, contrary to what you think. Just take the polemic down a notch. It makes you look bad. Believe it or not I am Actually trying to help you. But you seem to have a need to have the last word so have at it. Im done here. Have a good day sir.
I dont know why you are so hung up on this international testing standard, like it means its the only way to perform an accuate test. You think a corrupt ass government like Moldova follows all the required procedures? Lmao!
Ill tell ya what, if you can prove I forged anything I will leave eroids for good.
If you can not provide them even yesterday you said you will do then is clear you are a fraudster.
Methods for testing drugs are developed every day and published by usps/eupharma/japanesepharma etc..for example not long ago usps published a method for testing testosterone cypionate with MS .
Any other way of testing without having a methodology is 100% bs. Because if one can find a new method that person will run and publish it to add this to his personal CV. So either that person have a method where the error rate is so big that he knows that is semijunk either you are faking tests.
But your tests are fake just wait to post more informations
I do not think you have malicious intent. I just think the test is not accurate. If I am correct then posting the results is not good for the community.
AnonIf its not accurate then no its not good. IF....but I believe the test to be accurate.
He did not said is possible or impossible. If you do then you need to show a methodology. The only methodology on MS is for test cyp. He speak in general.
He is a professionist he say anything is possible if you have methodology. You have zero , your labs are full of mistakes and besides a big mouth nothing on your side
AnonOk thank you for that. Its not that big really.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYou guys just try to promote labs/sources of your own that give you a percent.
AnonOh really? Lmao like who? What labs do I promote on here? Do you see me nut hugging in the source pages ever? I have used balkan tbol from you before and loved it, best tbol I have ran. But that doesnt have shit to do with this.
You are being quite paranoid man, I hope this doesnt ruin our friendship.
If you take this test out of the equation....you still have:
Shady Codes
Subpar Blood Work
His "Mass Spec" of his Test E is invalid
Strange that only for you codes are shady
Which bloodwork you refer to ? Yours ? LOL
I never test products with MS because does not exist methods. I test with HPLC ( not me but a independent lab ) you have tests in LabSection
Your tests now are totally wrong and are a failure.
What you do is a smear campaign nothing else
Be nice if you could dial this back and let's all figure away to prove the testing right or wrong. I think we as a group could end this debate forever if we work together to do so.
OK i will be nice. They have 7 points document from the professor they need to answer and comment on them
How about you and I test their system of testing. I think the easiest way is to disprove dosage. Once it is proven dosage is wrong then the test should be considered wrong. If the dosage is tested and proven correct then we move to testing purity results.
I like this idea... Could even send a sample with just the carrier oil just to through something in the mix :/)
AnonNo it was my code that had already been checked 3 times. Like I said, the other vial I had checked out fine but the one I had tested had already been checked 3 times. I already emailed balkan and have not yet received a reply.
They take days to answer.
AnonOk thanks
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkIt may have been checked by members on here. You have pics of the vial up top with the code
Good catch. I didn't think of that.
It may have been checked by members on here. You hhave pics of the vial up top with the code
AnonPerhaps, I hope someone would say so.
I would say the best way to squash this is to send the rest of the contents in the vial you have to a lab that can test with HPLC. Let the source pay for it and let's see what the outcome is. Also Gymjunkie said he would send his batch in. Otherwise we can go back and forth here forever.
This would put this whole issue to bed.
Not defending him. I am just saying this test us worthless until we have a clear answer if it is accurate or not.
I'm with ya Fina. I guess we need to start looking into the accuracy of LC/MS/MS testing for concentration of Testosterone Serum in the Blood Work also. Hate to think all this testing we do is for nuffin. :(
Testing plasmatic concentration is something totally different than testing drugs quality.
LC/MS/MS - 7329ng/dl
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/9256/MP%20LAB.jpg
LC/MS/MS - 32.64mg/mL
MS/HPLC - 37.8mg/mL
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/21800/image_60.jpg
Me too but I think it is. Like I said I can provide 3 samples of a compound with different doses if you want. I think posting ms results now is slander.
It can be a double edged sword I will agree. The Test Serum Blood results seem to always be different. Lots of other factors......but curious about the testing.....interesting.
Codes being checked 3 times?
Test E "mass spec"?
A. Is it from "Balken"
B. Yellow in color
Lots of questions about this test.....lots of unanswered questions about the source test results posted. Dates...what was tested...color of oil...etc
I've been called retarded...a photoshopper....ANGUS's business partner by this source....and the list goes on and on.....this Test E is clear in color with codes that have been checked 3 times.....still no answer.....maybe he can email his Professor friend....maybe I'll email Gilligan and Mary Ann
Codes being checked 3 times ? Email bp and it will give u info.
TEST E must be clear in colour if is good product without impurities. Heptanoic acid can make it darker.
So now you accuse that oil is too clear ? OMG there are no mods here than can read between lines what those guys are trying to do ?
And the skipper to.......
I used to think Ms. Howell (Lovey) was hot.....is that weird?
I wont judge you .
AnonAlso states Benzyol Benzoate is absent from the sample even though its listed on the ingredients of my vial. Still waiting to here back from balkan about the upic check
You my friend are a man on a mission. Appreciate all the extra research....and all the while conducting yourself like an adult.
AnonI would consider it mission complete, appreciate your help sir
rocketballzSo many possibilities here. It seems to me your test was presented in a summary format. A shops professor seems to prefer the More lengthy presentation. It probanly xomes down to price, as far as the level of detail in the reported results. I'm guessing if you wanted a more detailed test report you would have to pay more.
I'll accept retarded.....but a photoshopper.....that's where I draw the line! =))
RustyhookerI'm going pharma. .....
Isnt this MOLDOVAMOB PHARMA?
AnonResponse from testing lab:
Please post this lab information and professor i know will contact them. Regarding other answers you posted here we figured out who are the guys and professor I know will contact them pointing this thread.
Where is the methodology used by them according to international standards ?
Just for start please post methodology so we can talk at subject. You promised this from yesterday..where it is ?
You fail to answer any of my questions with simple and clear answers. You come with more confusing answers that make non sense
In few hours i will have answer from this professor and I will post here . He already told me people who posted this are a bunch of idiots. Sorry if you are offended but he is a professor and you are some peopls forging labs and emails. Anyway he cleared up all bullshit you posted he will translate for me and send text in next hours. Shame on you HailRazor and Jellotrip at the end I hope your karma will ne reseted to zero for this forgings
rocketballzMan you are one hostile dude. You would think we are talking about something YOU ACTUALLY PRODUCE. You are a reseller brother. No more no less. It's not like balkan is something you should have pride in. It's just another product that you sell. Your problem is that you are too arrogant to see when something is wrong. In fact, I don't think I have ever read arrogance like I do when I read your posts. It's completely unprofessional. It's because of online forums like these that you make your living so try and control your emotions like an adult and start showing some respect.
Ajax is right, let the three of them duke this out.
rocketballzHe seems to always be right....but ill stay out of this. I just can't stand the credibility attacks on otherwise good members. Members who have in fact helped me. Sorry for the rants man but I can't wait to see how this ends up. Peace brother. Must be the gh
AnonIts all good man, the support I have received from good people who know me here has more than validated my efforts.
People who want real pharma grade gear know where to go. At least its good to know if I need some cheap cancer drugs off ebay I have a source as well ;)
Hey my friend. Please mind your business. I was confronted once with same kind of guys Angus same kind of lies. I have enough bullshit. Do not expect to atack me with fake papers and have respect for you. I have no respect for liars. They hate this forum and rules here and they try to break the order by atacking sources or forum or more. Is hard for me also to complain with rules here but i do my best. Is second time with same kind of crooks and I expect some respect since I really work hard and I am honest. I am not a diplomat yes but this is my problem.
rocketballzThis is my business. I will tell you why its my Business. Primarily because I am a consumer and a loyal member of this forum. You, me, the mods, have no idea or PROOF That anyone is lying. Just because angus may have lied doesn't mean these guys are. When another source on here sold underdosed gear (and I'm not saying this Balkan test e is underdosed becausw no one seems to know) he came on here, apologized and owned up to the mistake. So yes this is In fact my business, contrary to what you think. Just take the polemic down a notch. It makes you look bad. Believe it or not I am Actually trying to help you. But you seem to have a need to have the last word so have at it. Im done here. Have a good day sir.
AnonDont sell yourself short bro, I thought we were really starting to get along.
AnonLol sorry to have disappointed you dad.
I dont know why you are so hung up on this international testing standard, like it means its the only way to perform an accuate test. You think a corrupt ass government like Moldova follows all the required procedures? Lmao!
Ill tell ya what, if you can prove I forged anything I will leave eroids for good.
If you can not provide them even yesterday you said you will do then is clear you are a fraudster.
Methods for testing drugs are developed every day and published by usps/eupharma/japanesepharma etc..for example not long ago usps published a method for testing testosterone cypionate with MS .
Any other way of testing without having a methodology is 100% bs. Because if one can find a new method that person will run and publish it to add this to his personal CV. So either that person have a method where the error rate is so big that he knows that is semijunk either you are faking tests.
But your tests are fake just wait to post more informations
AnonLol fraudster. I bet my left nut there is no way Balkan would pass for human grade in the US and you know it.