posted Fri, 04/17/2015 - 07:24
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+ 42 Mass Spec: Balkan Test E 250 from Ashop
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Balkan Test E 250
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Actual content: 162.9mg/ml
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This thread is ridiculous. I have seen enough and I am closing it. When you guys have your new results pm me and I will reopen it...
Dear Mods/Owners
Some labs were posted by HailRazor here ( with help of another user or not does not matter ). I have proved already those labs are fake and that lab is giving lame excuses when they are asked details about their results. I know that is not your business but maybe this guy HailRazor should be asked to present public excuses or get penalized some way. Otherwise every other day another bored guy will wake up draw new labs and smear another source reputation. Most probably he will continue unbothered his journey but at least I have tried#
OK BUDDY
In everyone attention
Look here a legit lab www.simec.ch how is listing their methodology according to pharmacopeeia. They DO NOT EVEN USE MS. Why ? Because MS is not used for quantitative determination
http://www.simec.ch/en/laboranalytik/9-laboratory-analytics/33-methoden....
Steroidcheck.com and HailRazor say that their lab is using a secret methodology developed by them :):) I think we can call this lab scammer already but I will dig further to see what is and who is behind this lab. Everything that steroidcheck.com and labmax is doing is pseudoscience and their error margin is so big that results have no value for end user
LC/MS/MS
HPLC
https://www.eroids.com/pics/primo-ae
GS/MS
https://www.eroids.com/pics/swole-25mg-proviron-mesterolone
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/69655/Balkan.jpg
Anyone can help me with a list of forums where steroidcheck.com is working ?.I thinkI will spend my time trigering a alarm there that this company is unable to do quantitative tests and they are providing fake labs results
meantime I wait a check on this company because for sure is a ilegal one so curios how they are importing in their country samples. HailRazor maybe you ask them to post license that allow them import of samples ?
StevebDo you have a license to export steroids?
It is not the same thing.
If they do not have license for importing samples I can prove once again that they are fake. Is very hard to own a MS and you need tons of papers and you stay in many attentions bc you can use for developing a nuclear shit.
So if you own a MS you would not make such a mistake like offering ilicit analyses on internet. So if they have one for sure they use it legally so let them prove they have import papers.
Incoming week I will get chamber of commerce answer regarding this company then I will make next inquiries regarding this company right and ability for doing analysis.
I only want them to admit my labs were bad even at this moment is OBVIOUS that were bad. Already too many members emailed and told me that this is clear now so for this I could drop it.
But in few months or weeks will be another excroc company as you see lately many pseudoscientific companies appeared and claim to test steroids with methods that are not reliable ( MS or TEST KITS both of them not good for quantitative testing ONLY IDENTIFICATION)
So lets take this debate till end to see.....THOSE COMPANIES ARE probably some failed studentsat chemistry who access school MS and not even their own making in best option bad analyses or only drawing in photopaint )
SAMPLES OF VIAGRA, CIALIS (they are highly counterfeited) Cannabinoids, Salts and other unknown substances can be tested within the U.S. LEGALLY and can be sent anonymously. It's not the same as when everyone was testing YOUR STEALTH BRAND in U.S. LABS. I'm sure you remember. HARM REDUCTION seems to be more important now.
I (WE) FIND IT HUMEROUS THAT AN INTERNATIONAL ILLEGAL STEROID DISTRIBUTOR IS UPSET THAT A TESTING FACILITY MIGHT BE OPERATING ILLEGALLY. I HAVE TO CHUCKLE
TESTING ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES IS VERY COMMON IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD. HARM REDUCTION.
Yes they do IDENTIFICATION and NEVER DOSAGE. They can draw a dosage from calculation but error is random between 20-80% lets say
I am sure that this laboratory is ilegal totally or run by some crooks. Because a honest analyst would say what he can do and what he can not do. But those guys claim that they do something that they are unable
Why they never answered questions I asked regarding their labs ?
Profesor sent them a set of questions with those labs posted here by you attached. Their answer was that they can not answer questions without receipt (hahaha) because they are not sure if analyses attached are theirs or not:):):)
THEY WILL NOT REPLY WITHOUT THE CODE FORE SECURITY REASONS.
OK ASHOP......LETS BE FRIENDS. ALL THIS BACK AND FORTH ISNT A GOOD LOOK FOR ME OR A #1 SOURCE.
THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW IM POSTING OLD LABS FROM YEARS AGO (STEALTH) AND IT JUST GETS WORSE
I WILL POST UP NEW RESULTS WHEN THEY ARE READY AND IM SURE YOU WILL DO THE SAME WITH YOUR SIMEC SAMPLES.
Nobody asked them your name. They were asked to explain how they can do such stupid analyses and explain them. They are hidding
I think everyone agree you are a fool who tried a smear campaign and failed. Your credibility is zero already
OK BUDDY.
Look man Plain and simple you have had bad blood work particularly on the test e From Low Nobody members all the way up to Irongame.Balkan Labs has produced SHIT test e and these mass spec's coincide with the numerous blood work numbers.
Trapsquatch you a other source fanboy even I know this
Some of you guys ( other sources fanboys) hate me because I am the best and reasons are obvious: BEST PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET HIGHEST QUALITY AT BEST PRICE plus I AM THE ONLY SOURCE WHO TEST EACH BATCH IN A INDEPENDENT LABORATORY AND POST REAL HPLC LABS not MS shit others are posting. I proved I am the only source that know his shit. Untill I stepped ahead here Angus was your Guru and everyone sources and customers were paying him lots of money while he was laughing at you. But I was the only source who has the will to show the truth and only source who done a effort and only source with access to information and people with knowledge. I proved that Angus was a redneck who was fooling you. Now is already proved by me that Razor is another crook with www.steroidcheck.com team . That mean I know my job and I know what I am doing since other sources just pay fanboys like you Trapsquatch to say that xx brand is bad. Where did you saw bad bloods ? Another shameless liar
I hope mods watch this and get their honest conclusion over MS lab shit. Seems many crooks are now launched in a new business that one of testing steroids where they trick people with their photopaint analyses. What chemists are those who say their calculations are secret like Steroidcheck.com team ? Simply scammers#
MAYBE YOUR LAB IS SHADY
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/13392/file-page1.jpg
NO BENZYL BENZOATE
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/69655/Balkan.jpg
BENZYL BENZOATE
Sorry to say maybe you are just stupid ? What you find shaddy there LOL
Benzylbenzoate allowed content is between 0-2%. Product is conform
Absence is defined as a lack of something, or a situation where something or someone that is not present.
0-2% SHOULD BE LISTED AND SHOULD SAY 'PRESENT"
SHADDY?
OMG you are one of those who say things that MEME made with
So in your opinion 0% means present. Did you ever finished 3rd grade primary school ?
MAYBE YOUR LAB IS OPERATING ILLEGALLY
StevebIf you're ordering international why not just get real pharma grade and pay the same or less.
P2i2tthe thing that gets me with the BB situation is that it is claimed over and over that Balkan is pharma in moldova yet I do not understand how any pharmaceutical product could have any ingredient listed on their label that is not in the actual product.I don't care what anybody says, the labels on any real pharmaceutical product cannot be misleading to that degree. and if they actually can be that misleading in that part of the world, then it will not take a great deal for any product even to make pharmaceutical standards. which does not say much about any product that is considered pharmaceutical standards over there I guess, including Balkan (if they really are).just any half decent product could make the standard apparently. I mean this must be if the pharmaceutical regulations are so lax as to find it to be ok to mislabel a product entirely. personally, to be completely honest, I never believed the Balkan=pharma theory and claims. although I have never had a product from Balkan that I was disappointed with.and I have never any problems with Ashop since going back to when I used to order from them going back to when they were alinshop back in like 2006. Or even earlier. They have good products, the source has helped me repeatedly and I have never had a problem with them, but this is just another dagger in the Balkan=pharma theory for my personal opinion anyways.
You see what is hapening when you do not know laws but you give your opinion regarding a issue. In Moldova laws are same like in UE for pharma. They got a allowance to use old labels till stock is over because the difference is ONE EXCIPIENT not active substance and IS MINUS ONE EXCIPIENT not added a extra excipient . If was a extra excipient added labels can not be used. Laws and regulations respect rules of good sense and logic in general. Dont do missinterpretations
P2i2tregardless it still does not make sense to me to have a label misrepresent what the actual product contains.I highly doubt that would fly over here where we have much higher standards when it comes to FDA, not just Pharmacopoeia. I was wondering if you could show me where it says that law that old labels can be used even if it misrepresents what the actual ingredients inside actually are?I've been searching the internet for myself but can't seem to pinpoint that exact law. any help where I could find this law would be greatly appreciated. once I can actually see for myself that this actually is in the laws there will be no more "misinterpretations". this is just very hard for me to believe that's all.
*you are not able to see that MS tests posted by Razor and other crooks are fake and you want to interpret now some laws ? Be serious my friend dont make me smile
meantime ( being after holiday they replied now being Monday morning) I got a answer from official dealer in Moldova for BP regarding benzylbenzoate. He told me that allowed benzylbenzoate content for BP hormones is between: 0% and 2% therefore everything is corect, labels and everything
CROOKS OR MAYBE STUDENTS MAKE THIS PHOTOSHOP LAB ANALYSIS?
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/13392/file-page1.jpg
I REALLY WISH A MOD WOULD LOCK THIS DOWN
#JelloTrip ISNT HERE
## ASHOP, THE #1 SOURCE, IS OVERBOARD IN MY OPINION WITH ACCUSATIONS AND INSULTS OF:
# BEING RETARDED
# DEALING IN HARD DRUGS
# OFFERING A "TESTING SERVICE" FOR $
# WHERE ARE THE MODS?
X2 Wtf. I've been locked out for almost a week and this thread has turned into a shit show. And now after all the bs bickering jellotrip is anon. I guess if I had to deal with all this shit after I tried to help the community I'd be out too.
Please do not talk here about ilegal stuff
Regarding bad words Yes I told you I got angry because I knew you have fake tests ( is a fact now) but I realized I should not say that so already asked excuses
You posted fake labs from garage lab and got from you tons of lies and nothing else
Does not matter if Jelotrip is not here bevause HailRazor done in fact this test so he is respobsable of the results
yes I think you get a comision from those guys and you wanted to make a entrance here to make tests and money. First days you did not even wanted to disclose the name of the lab so I am sure you wanted to make money from testing
Instead of giving me answers I requested for a scientific debate about fake analyses you posted here, you post retarted pictures. That show your level.
I'm Retarded from all the MDMA
P2i2tI honestly agree with every one of these points.
ITS A BIT OVERBOARD.....WHERE'S JELLOTRIP?
Does not matter if Jelotrip is not here bevause HailRazor done in fact this test so he is respobsable of the results
P2i2tto me the little insults and whatever was a little out of line but still not enough to call overboard. it happens,people get defensive. But Once I saw the accusations of dealing and using hard drugs and the such, and also claiming you are only doing these tests to make money, that is when it became way too personal in my opinion and it should have been locked down.that is not only absolutely uncalled for, but brings it down to a personal attack level and changes the entire psychology of the whole situation.that is just the way I see it anyways
P,
I try and be as passive even when I'm being aggressive...
What happened to jello trip?
Hitman187I was wondering the same thing.
P2i2tGood question...wth??
What does it mean with Anonymous ?
P2i2tIt means their account is no longer active on eroids
PROFESSOR REPPLY TO STEROIDCHECK.COM ANSWERS:
1.
10 pages is not much at all. I would even say it is very little. You may find decent reports on the internet, with chromatograms and calculations, of 80 pages and more for each analysis. We may give you links to such tests. What you post, on the other hand, is pseudo-scientific data. You posted chromatograms with 6 peaks. We've explained you what kind of peaks those are. Please post your full report and calculations, and we will show you where you've done wrong. You say nobody is interested in 9 pages. As far as I can see, the only person that is not interested it's you. You have something to hide, that's why you vehemently refuse to post your calculations.
2.
You say that "detailing your results would allow other people to simply copy your methods and profit by settling up the entire testing procedures". These testing methods and procedures are not a secret. They are routing analyses. They are widely used by professionals all over the world. We post dozens of such results and calculations yearly. There are thousands other full results posted on the internet. Nobody would steal that from you. Any decent laboratory would easily repeat the analyses, without even reading your results.
3.
You are not an accredited laboratory; you do not use European pharmacopeia standards; you can't prove the correctness of your results. All you do is fool your "happy custumers"
Lots of questions answered on this thread (but you will never be satisfied)
No answers on your "Mass Spec Test E 250mg" thread
Can we get some answers here please?
https://www.eroids.com/pics/testosterone-enanthate-250mgml-by-balkan-pha...
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/13392/file-page6.jpg
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/13392/file-page1.jpg
Are these examples of decent reports on the Internet: (Generic Test)
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/13392/file-page1.jpg
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/24124/Tren%20E.jpg
https://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/24124/TrenAce.jpg
"Certificate/Buletin of Analysis of" seems "off" on each one
Can we get an email for Nadejda so we can get answers to this test done USPS/EU Pharmacopeia Standards yet there is no label of what was tested:
Product, Batch No., EXP Date
http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/nandroxl/media/TRENOPRIME_zps9c450a3f....
Can we get a reference number or receipt for this test and get an email address to address the Benzyl Benzoate and carrier oil issue.
Why can't we just send some samples to ULIM
Give us some contact info
Thank You
Razor please do not play games. They have not answered any question and their reply is that they do not want to post analyses because of secrecy. I think they are bad liars besides very bad chemists. Lets see mods conclusion at the end I assure you they follow all logic here
I have asked all questions please read all posts. If is something new I will look now
I have invoice for monthly payment of all labs I can send to a mod to prove I have done analyses so excuse me but **** off
There is a source here MuscleDevelop maybe ? Do not remember there is a thread in source section who tested his raws at this professor. If you want or jellotrip send me a PM I give you professor email and discuss with him. If u want to test products pay and tests discuss with him better lab than his you will never find. He even have methods for synthetising his own standards ( so he even know raw production tehnics )
in the future each lab will have batch expiry but what we have untill now we will post like this
BP does not use benzylbenzoate is the only company because a UG if does not use then his vials can be biological bombs. BP have new tehnology and does not use. I gave jellotrip email where he can ask about this
i know you were making money testing with this fake lab on other forums MDMA and you tought is good to come here to make more money. Bad luck for you because here you found people who know thid monkey business you are running
**on which forums you were testing mdma with this lab ? I think they should be warned that this lab does not have quantitative methods. Imagine someone taking double doses of such drugs because your guys show wrong values!!!***
I am so transparent you can not find any glitch to beat me I assure you. I double test all batches I sell plus I do not do this only for money. For me is matter of pride and palmares and I promise I dont let this go untill that company admit those labs are bad
RustyhookerI remember 3 sources claiming to use double blind testing and 2 of the 3 backed out. Muscledevelop was good for sending. But tests never occurred. Why? If gear was top notch, then there'd be no fear at all of any double blind tests made.
It costs $3 for a Purdy bottle of fully completed gear. Top sources make some $4,0000 per day. Seems perfectly cool to WANT that type of double blind testing just to FLEX their brands power.
There's sources commenting on here that I've seen bloods from respected guys and even the bloods were on Dr scally hype of quality. Meaning, fina had bloods tested by guts I trust. The bloods were at 10,000+ on a gram a week. Other test was bout 8000 on 750 per week. But I'm not seeing that correlation anymore on the balkan. Why? Maybe tighten up some standards? Maybe quit the pages of "my professor said" and bust out double blind testing.
Damn this shit is nutty as a squirrels turd. This ain't rocket science. When bloods don't match...There's a problem. When mass specs can and will be made incorrect...There IS A PROBLEM. If it was my gear, I'd most certainly make SURE that it was tested correctly with NO double talk.
let's see the 3 big sellers just do a goddamn double blind test!!!
That source you are talking about does have great gear but I do jot think bloods are as accurate as you think. I think the will move up and down s lot between person to person. This is my opinion no proof but it will be the next post.
EXACTLY.YOU WILL READ EXPERIMENT ON RABITS
MuscleDevelops tested all his raws and were all perfect but one has a impurity over admisible limit. Rustyhooker please if you dont know dont launch into supositions. Why he did not make this public is his problem
also Rustyhooker you are very biased guy and your opinion change all time like wind. Please look good on facts before jumping to conclusions
regarding blood levels I promised you 4 months ago a test on rabits. That experiment is ready and team will post into magazines including pubmed. Like a conclusion through phone levels in blood were corelated untill lets say 500mg but for example for 1000 mg levels are higher than 500 but not double. There were rabits with cycles with proviron adex etc. At the end of experiment few days ago a part of them were killed and they will study organs if were any modifications. Rest of them are left to see how soon natural hormones are comming back. This experiment was very expensive bloods from rabits were tooken every week and so on. You will see. If results are like understand means that old school with moderate doses work very good. Just have patience as you will see I do good jobs and I do not do monkey businesses. How the hell you can imagine I would sell subpar products ?.i am ready to stand in front of anyond at any hour
really thats offensive when a NOBODY come with fake papers that have no value and I proved that are fake a wanna be mod come with the wool on the eyes and is atacking me whom Im doing honest business for 15 years. Did you asked muscledevelops ? Did you know corelation between blood levels and ammount injected ? If not please hold before judging. I am the one interested that everything to be super perfect because if stsnsards are high hete I have only to win
you dont see corelatoion on Bp ? Where ? On this guy fake mass ? Even would be 10 bloods that are not great does not mean BP is bad. Is the only bramd really done corectly and seems some just hate honest competition . Do not throw empty words in favour or Razor. He was not able to prove shit on hs labs