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+ 42 Mass Spec: Balkan Test E 250 from Ashop

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Big thanks to HailRazor for making this possible

Balkan Test E 250

Lot #: 009

Actual content: 162.9mg/ml

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vhman's picture

First: If you have proof of these member being "liars" and using "photoshop", then give it up. No one wants that here. By the same token, you can't go around saying that without some proof.

Second: You've missed the entire point of my post. There is TONS of confusion as to what constitutes a proper test. Instead of acting like an upset child, show us what you have found to be the standard, so this crap quits happening and that we can have ONE standard of testing that we can know is accurate.

Everyone would be more than happy to have some proper dialog here.

ashop's picture

Yes proofs are there just read carefully ?

Are you a moderator or you teach me good manners ? When a moderator will tell me I have done something wrong I will correct

vhman's picture

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hermes's picture

Alin appears to have quite a history of the aforementioned tactics. It is unfortunate for the community that he/she has made it clear that anyone that opposes them will be brutally attacked. Using fear as a tactic oppresses knowledge and sharing as a community, and I could see where people would be afraid to say anything that wasn't positive about the source. Alin appears to have some valid arguments but so too does the OP. I could do without all the accusations and name-calling though. We're all adults.

ashop's picture

Herpes congrats for your 1st karma and your first comments on this forum. Despite the appearences seems you know lots of history ;)

Pale's picture

Hold on now. I have not seen anyone on either side making threats other than exposing one or the other as a fool. The minute it does escalate to a threat we will be stepping in. Like I asked all parties earlier, lets keep it clean and impersonal.

hermes's picture

My apologies if I was unclear. When I said brutally attacked I merely meant verbally, and more descriptive I would say that calling names, character assassination, and attempts to ruin credibility of any revered member would fall under the description of attacked. At least in the current parameters of anonymity in the online forum. I am not aware of any threats either.

Pale's picture

For your own security I would be very judicious throwing out names.

Pale's picture

I wish I understood all of this a little better but I don't so I would appreciate it if you guys would keep it clean and insults to a minimum. Hail and Jello, you guys better be on your A-game because Alin is going to be relentless on this.

HailRazor's picture

I'm done. It's pointless. Can't win with this guy. This lab did use a standard for testing. This is why this lab is limited on its quantitative testing. Should be asking about that sketchy website. Peace

ashop's picture

Do not run away. Please come with answers. Untill this moment you have not answered clearly any of my questions but I have answered all yours.

Please publish your MOA that was your guidance in performing this analyze and answer my questions

ashop's picture

No..a standard was not used your guys lack this level of expertise to make them being able faking this. When a test is used and a analyses is done there are done many injections. Volume of pages are going to 20-70 full pages not what you posted here few lines on a page. Will be practically impossible for you to make fakes at that level and if you do at some point we will be here to analyze each line and point out mistakes to show you are a fake

I do not sell subproducts. For example someone important here asked me many months ago for modafinil. I got it for him and analyzed and sent him with mention that one impurity is over the acceptable limit. Even so he told me was the best modafinil ever. (So imagine what others are selling ) i said this just to understand I do not afford to sell a brand that is not conform standards.
If BP would not be the best out there I would sell other brands . But the brands I sell I guarrantee them with my reputation life and all and I will not let few **** to come here with photoshoped labs and do a smear campaign.

Once I prove a standard was not used I hooe mods will reset your karma exactly the same way we get votes reseted each time we screw up

ashop's picture

For anyone who read proofs are out there my friend.

ashop's picture

for moment only answer HailRazor was ablevto give was a big lie that in this analyze were used standards. Please allow me till tommorow to get a professor review on this MS and he will point exactly how to know that a standard was not used. Because was not. Angus was way better informed than you guys..

ashop's picture

The same process was with Angus. The same methods exactly. I have proven at that time that Angus methods for dosage were zero nada nothing. Even the moderators agreed and Angus went out from show. Now a new gang come with same story same BS same kind of analyses. I think that for most of members is a closed subject but I am ready to prove once again those guys are liars. I have 20000 USD guarrantee for my products. Just do real testing not fake testing. This is fake testing. Already so many days and they are unable to give basic answers on their methods

HailRazor's picture

Why is it we can send blood work to determine testosterone serum concentration (ug/mL) but yet when we send a sample of your product for Test E (mg/ mL) concentration it's not valid?

iCS "Balken Pharmaceuticals" SSL

What's really located at the address on the official Balken website?

Website states Balken is sold in Moldova pharmacies:

Why not this one:

Felicia.md

Why is the Balken website listed as "shady" on scamviser. Why would a legit pharmaceutical company have such a shady website?

Shady website....shady vial crimping

ashop's picture

Let me paste a tutorial here i wrote long time ago

HOW TO CHECK IF A MANUFACTURER REAL

So many UGL are making up a nice website with fake pictures and make people think they are a human grade. But is not hard to check if you spend little time to investigate this.

So if a factory is legal and approved you should find references about this factory on governmental websites of that country ( only governmental websites can not be faked ). I will explain how to check and take as example this manufacturer BP.

Any drug factory is certified by local FDA. In Moldova this agency is called: Agentia Medicamentului and they have www.amed.md website ( It is a governamental website you can clearly see )

Go on that website and look on the list of companies approved:
Clasificator » Clasificator agenţi economici - download the XLS and check the company name

NOW BE CAREFUL TO TRICKS THIS IS NOT EVERYTHING. You must check if ALL PRODUCTS this company are selling are CERTIFIED and each bach is TESTED by government :

Home » Clasificator » Clasificator medicamente - check each drug name .

also check Nomenclator for each drug name and company

Home » Nomenclator

CHECK EVERYTHING CAREFULLY

So if the company is real and each drug is tested is a first step but is not everything. You must check if this company is really producing drugs and selling drugs in pharmacies.

Lets check further LICITATION ( tenders )

Home » Licitaţii » Rezultatele licitaţiilor

Here you can find companies that are producing for real drugs and selling their drugs to the hospitals in the country. Look for LICITATION results , this is very important to see if company is real

Rezultatul licitaţiei nr.1608/13 din 20.11.2013

( for 2014 the big LICITATION is in september 2013 . Other small licitation are just for small needs . )

http://amed.md/tc_userfiles/file/Licitatii/Rezultate%20licitatiilor/Cast...

Download the lists in XLS and check the lists for drugs name and company name and see which drugs they sold to the government ( more complicated drugs better the company. So for example if they sold only tablets company is small if they sold aqueous injectable in sizes bigger than 10 ml the company is the best )

IF EVERYTHING WAS POSITIVE THEN COMPANY IS GREEN AS GRASS

2.

Would be nice also to check the company website for the NEWS-RELEASE and check if this company has a past.

For Balkan will be very nice to see that even prime minister is visiting the factory and you can find details about the visit on the governmental website GOV.MD

http://www.gov.md/libview.php?l=ro&id=6189&idc=436

I think this is a good HOW TO CHECK IF A COMPANY IS REAL in my humble opinion

HailRazor's picture

And.....? Bad blood work and lab analysis on your Test E. So your selling a Balkanish product? Why's that website so sketchy??

ashop's picture

Can you try to write clear questions ? Or come back later when you sober pls

ashop's picture

Let me waste some time and explain

BP is sold in Felicia pharmacies in the city. That you are looking on felicia.md is Felicia magazine webpages and not online pharmacy

HailRazor's picture

They sell Balken Tren? How's the crimping on the vials sold there? Why's Balkens website so sketchy ?

ashop's picture

On felicia.md the site you pointed out and is biggest pharma chain in country, you have a hotline phone number . Please dial call them and ask about BP products including BP tren

Then come back and ask excuses

ashop's picture

So even government of Moldova is telling lies ? Or the governamental website is shaddy also ?

" prime minister is visiting the factory and you can find details about the visit on the governmental website GOV.MD

http://www.gov.md/libview.php?l=ro&id=6189&idc=436

ashop's picture

I think you are retarded honestly

HailRazor's picture

And I think Balken and Hygetropin both try and promote "Human Grade" ..."Pharma Quality"..."GMP Factory". Misinformation with shady website.

ashop's picture

Nonsense

Please be specific in english so I can answer specific questions.

ashop's picture

Nonsense

Please be specific in english so I can answer specific questions.

ashop's picture

Please post their answers. Please answers my questions and lets see a name of a professor that will back up a MS testing for quantitative analyses without standards

Angus has the same story. Connections with professors etc and then was proved he was copying the texts from google

Untill then cut the bullshit

ashop's picture

Mods seems that a new gang of crooks like was Angus team is here again with bullshit labs results in order to manipulate people/votes and results. I think you should treat those things seriously and you remember that I was able to prove that Angus was a crook. Those guys use the same methods but they do more lame mistakes.

I need them.to start answering my questions and if they fail to keep all arguments real or give answers impossible to understand thet should get crook label.

HailRazor lets start with few questions then we continue :

1.
So how you could determine the concentration of the product without standards ? Concentration means quantitative determination

2.
GS is used for volatile materials. In order to be able to test a product you need to heat it to high temperature lets say 200 celsius or so to vaporize and analyze it.
Testosterone enanthate once reach 40 celsius will decompose and destroy totally .

Those be facts I am sure your analyses are fake. And a lame fake worse than Angus fakes

Once you answer we continue. I just have enough with such crooks and oportunists here who want to make money selling fake labs and manipulate people

HailRazor's picture

A standard was used for this test

ashop's picture

Haha no it was not ! You are so dump to post such a lie OMG

BeastMode5085's picture

Sooooo can anyone tell me if this post I made a few pages back has any influence on this? If it does, I think we can squash this whole thing....

"you may be on to something here... ChampionOfTheMind posted this before he got banned.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/the-true-drip...

Says the true dose per 100mg of Test E is 70mg (once you account for the ester weight). so 2.5* 70= 175mg. The test shows 162.9. Now I have no idea if it works that way or not. Thats a question for someone else to answer....

Thanks for bringing this up RB"

ashop's picture

Absolutely you are a crock. You went in a promo then you post that you done a MS on one product and is underdosed. This a smear campaign and probably you are the same team of Angus. Like the last time this will bring me more customers.

I will take your lab tests to a professor and I will post his comments

Like the last time I bet again the guys who are faking those arent smart enough to make good fakes

Bunch of crooks

ashop's picture

I smell crooks like you a km away

ashop's picture

Just a information here is a raw video with BP old factory and new factory ( at the end ) . You can see their laboratory there machinery and HPLC MS and everything along with vials crimpers and all the shit, ampoules washing I saw there also etc.... Do you think they are idiots and some shaddy guys who make up fake MS tests are smart ?

https://youtu.be/r_XoW5RQzrg

Anyway a more complete documentary will be on news soon because in Moldova are now big investigations into pharma industry and they will present good and bad manufacturers

So if you say your labs are better and your guys are better than 100 people who work in this factory ( 10 only in testing lab ) then we should believe you right ?

ashop's picture

Some questions for the hairrazor who made the connection for that testing:

I think you were here for long so I do not understand how you can promote MS as being good after Angus with his MS was proved all ways totally fake. What is your interest ? What you have to win ? Why you do not post all pages of the analyse ? I want to see all calculations and everything so I can point all mistakes. How you could determine dosage without standard ? Comparing with what ? MS is doing identification comparing with fingerprint but dosage can be done ( for test cypionate only ) with a standard substance no other way. If you are calculating the area do you know that the area is so variable that has not analytical value ? Are you aware the area is variable for same conditions ?

You or the guy who done this could become a doctor if he discover a cheaper method ( the one you posted here ) to determine dosage. Do you imagine how much money will be saved in all factories over the world if you prove that dosage can be determined without standard. This guy can get rich with such a inovation, probably his thesis will be published in Nature magazine right away.

HailRazor's picture

A "Standard" is used in this test to give quantitative test result. Other peaks are identified as oils/etc. Please do not insult me or J with this ANGUS theory. I think it's best to let this go. There is nothing fake about this test or other recent lab reports that I've posted by licensed toxicology labs. So what do you want. Another test done......one that's stamped "Expert Tox" and signed by the testing scientist that has a PHD? J has more of the BalkenTest E 250 that could be tested. Questionable blood work and now this lab report......maybe you should look more closely at what's being sold instead of attacking eRoids members. This is what this site is for.

You've had bad lab analysis results many years ago. I remember and I'm sure you do aswell.

ashop's picture

After your answer seems you are more lame than Angus so you are not the same with him sorry

Please answer few questions:

1.
So how you could determine the concentration of the product without standards ? Concentration means quantitative determination

2.
GS is used for volatile materials. In order to be able to test a product you need to heat it to 200 celsius or so to vaporize and analyze it.
Testosterone enanthate once reach 40 celsius will decompose and destroy totally .
Those be facts I am sure your analyses are fake. And a lame fake..

Once you answer we continue. I just have enough with such crooks and oportunists here who want to make money selling fake labs and manipulate people

MODS please lets stay focused on his answers lets see if he is able to give pertinent answers. Once I prove he is a crook he can go with Angus

ashop's picture

On this link is explained quite well that GS-MS is used for forensic purposes. Is doing IDENTIFICATION of the products. Thats why those machines are used in Universities,police and research. They do identification. Police does not need to know your drug dosages but they need to know if you have drugs there.

Stop using google and posting here links without understanding the basic principle.

One simple thing: Test enanthate enters decompositions ( melting then burning ) at arround 30 Celsius. GSMS is heating to 200 Celsius to make it volatile and test it. At that point testosterone enanthate is already destroyed. So for sure this analyse here is fake as my wife tits

At the time I proved Angus being a scammer my professor ( who is a friend of mine, I do not have such skills ) found only one method using MS for testosterone cypionate to determine dosage but method imply usage of standard substance. All analyses here that are posted now and were posted in the past do not use any standard substance for comparation. Without it is impossible to determine dosage. Also a analyse should be very detailed including lot of calculations What you posted here was done by a freshman student who know better photoshop than chemistry.

Please read and learn before smear my products