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+ 42 Mass Spec: Balkan Test E 250 from Ashop

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Big thanks to HailRazor for making this possible

Balkan Test E 250

Lot #: 009

Actual content: 162.9mg/ml

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Theonslaught's picture

I'm not in your way. You're doing exactly what is fair in this situation.

And yeah I had success with alins stuff. It was my first two cycles many years ago. So I can't bash his products as they helped me even though no testing. But...
A. has discredited any test that comes about which he doesn't agree with.

Now it's down to proving the tests.

I'll step out of this as you wish.

Pale's picture

I get it. And I agree no one defends his products with more intensity than he does. But in my time here I haven't seen him be proven wrong when all smoke clears so forgive me for not jumping in with the torches and pitchforks until we know for sure.

HailRazor's picture
Pale's picture

Ugh! This thread is difficult to even look in on. I don't know who is telling the truth and don't expect to find out anytime soon. If you want to send me a testE and set up the Simec test I would be willing to do that but it may well be easier and faster to have one of our Euro or UK members send it. Maybe Monk will?

Pale's picture

This isn't your fault. Contrary to what Ashop thinks I don't believe you meant any harm in this. All you did was mail in a sample for all we know. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise here.

HailRazor's picture

Emails, receipts, etc can be provided Pale

Sorry for all the headaches buddy

Pale's picture

No apologies necessary. In the end hopefully we can find resolution. Right now we are just basically chasing our tails.

ashop's picture

I doubt. You got products on a promo did not used and sent them to a lab. Then you come with bad results and you fight for them and take them personally. If was not dishonesty then you would send my professor questions to that lab and post here their answers. If you posted some labs stand behind them do not run now like a coward..You are sending samples to another lab now ? I am sure you will tamper samples. You are not a honest guy

ashop's picture

Besides a big mouth a fake labs you have nothing. Not even knowledge to stand up behind your lies

HailRazor's picture

I've posted the info you need so your "Professor" can get the info he needs buddy. It's just an email away. All the Best

ashop's picture

You did not posted nothing

ashop's picture

For customers who wants to do real testing please contact www.simec.ch they do testing on hplc according to usps/eupharma

Any samples from me will test perfect to them if the sender is honest sure

Why someone would use people like HailRazor who are doing really bad testing when such labs are available I have no ideea

HailRazor's picture

I do not do the testing or even own a lab coat

I send samples to labs such as Simec and post results.

ashop's picture

not such simec. Send to simec..plus i doubt you are honest anyway and will not tamper samples but if you do i will ask each guy here to send samples to them I will pay and then when results will come you will dissapear like Angus

plus simec.ch is not using MS. Did you wondered why ? If you see they use HPLC then why you fighted against me defending MS ? No good lab will do quantitative tests on MS

For moment if you are honest please ask your lab with MS to posts answers and comments regarding my professor faults found on their results. If you posted /done those labs please be man and come with explanations otherwise admit they are wrong. Do not run away

ashop's picture

Do it but if you come with bad results mean you manipulated samples. For moment i do not trust you since you posted fake MS and now you change labs

HailRazor's picture

Ok ASHOP. Let's just take a break from all this back n forth. I've got $ to make (headn to a rave) to pay for this $1000+ lab work I'm doing for eRoids.

Maybe the Netherland lab is off. Maybe it's spot on. But rest assure....either way....I will post the results as I've always done my friend.

upndown's picture

Lol

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ashop's picture

DO NOT RUN AWAY NOW. For moment if you are honest please ask your lab with MS to posts answers and comments regarding my professor faults found on their results. If you posted /done those labs please be man and come with explanations otherwise admit they are wrong. Do not run away

HailRazor's picture

ASHOP: you keep using the old "Throw ANGUS under the bus" tactic

This is not the same game buddy

Jello was concerned with his BalKan gear because of recent blood work

He sacrificed his gear, time, and money to ship the sample to a testing facility

Questions about the test contact:

LabMax.ca

Simec.ch

SteroidCheck.com

In the meantime:

Ive sent two samples (Test P from my Compound Pharmacy) to my US lab and this Lab in the Netherlands (I've spent over $1000 to do this)

Samples were sent as Test P but mg/mL was not labeled

I'll post the results to compare each labs findings

So this should eliminate all this back n forth nonsense

We are not Chemist, Scientist, etc

Merely members contributing to eRoids. Nothing more

ashop's picture

simec.ch is ok if you send them real samples from me it will be perfect. I doubt you are honest and will do honest things.

Simec.ch is testing according usps or eupharma

ashop's picture

All those days your replies are what if .....do you think......can you try not to be sneaky

ashop's picture

My products test perfectly to simec so any other results than perfect i will not believe. I do not trust you and thats normal my products are qualitative so is clear you just want to manipulate

I do not discredit you. You discredit you because you can not stand and answer questions why your tests are full of mistakes

HailRazor's picture

Post your results from Simec then

HailRazor's picture

I've posted several results using Simec.ch

ashop's picture

Please posts receipts also when you do and leave info so members can call lab and check validity. I would not trust you even if you tell me time

HailRazor's picture

I have receipts....emails, etc from Simec

I've dealt with Dr. A......S...... Directly

ashop's picture

then test my products with Simec they test perfectly each time and I will not have headaches.Why you are doing now what you are doing if you have simec God knows

Undestand your labs with MS are not good. If you test for real with Simec then is good

ashop's picture

Instead posting more nonsense..who knows how you handled samples sent etc ? please answer basic questions regarding your lab tests.
You posted a bad lab tests that is full of faults
Why you do not answer questions regarding that lab test ?g

Regarding those contacts you list there what is that ? Which one done the tests you posted ? Are you again confused

I heard about labmax and here is a thread on subject

https://www.eroids.com/pics/labmax-test-balkan-vs.-pharmacy-test-cyp

MODS can you ask those guys to answer questions my professor asked them and not hide ? To make a honest debate please answer those questions comments or admit your tests are wrong

sending some samples you or your friend to other labs means you do not trust yourself labs posted plus who can trust more tests done with samples sent by you or your friends ?

You are running a smear campaign and you will lie till death you are wrong.
MS tests on steroids were proved faulty.

Do not take me with I sent to other labs or I am not chemist

You posted some labs please stand behinds your accusations or ask chemists from that lab to come and explain us why you have so many mistakes in that test.

If they done tests they should be able to defend. If not they or you or both are dishonests

ashop's picture

Ask your chemist who done test to answer please. Yes I understand let me one hour to try to write in a way everyone will understand

HailRazor's picture

I just dropped over 1000k to test the results of 2 different labs

Maybe you should have that new Fancy Balken Lab Facility that's on YouTube do an analysis of a recent batch and post it up

All this "Squirrel" and "look over there" tactics isn't getting you anywhere

Post up a recent lab

That's what I'll be doing

At least I'm contributing in a positive way. Can't say the same for you bud

ashop's picture

1000K you are very rich..are you make this money outvof mdma ? You posted earlier that you deal with mdma right ? Few posts earlier

Look in lab test section to see recent labs. I post labs for each new batch always

You are not contribuiting positive you are missinforming people

HailRazor's picture

There's a "harm reduction" program for that community. I do not follow that lifestyle. It was a comparison to the AAS lifestyle. We as customers need a "harm reduction" program such as that one for MDMA to keep us safe.

ashop's picture

Anyway 1000k is a million spent on labs. Seems you make tons of money with this business and you tought maybe is good to come here and get more rich ?

ashop's picture

Jellotrip and HailRazor. My profesor found your labs faulty and you have here lots of problems that you need to address.

Please address those issues

Here is the professor reply:

1.

A question of sample preparation. Where is the proof that the solvent (toluene) was missing the found components to start with? The solvent injection is missing.

2.

The standards database is used for authenticity. The quantitation has to be made using the calibration mix of standards in different concentrations for the construction of the calibration curve.

3.

One may or may not use the intern standard. It's also called "the tagging method" and it is used when one doesn't have the possibility to strictly control the device factors. When using this method for certain calculations, one should add it to the reference and analysis samples. We may assume that these tests haven't been done because the specters and the chromatograms of the reference mix are missing.

4.

The testing method of single injections is not statistically reliable. One should use at least 3 determinations and calculate the RSD.

5.

Three of the substances found in the sample ? Tricaprilin (mixture of glycerin an caprylic acid), tricaprin (glycerol tricaprate), decanoic acid (capric acid) are oil components. The other 2 substances are some sort of derivatives of the decanoic acid. The standards database shows an 80% coincidence for one of them, while the other one is not shown at all. Anyhow, they are not steroid substances that would show impurities of testosterone.

6.

It's hard to find a logic in the shown results. We have been shown only the initial components and the final components.

7.

We return to the same discussion we had before. The method of MSGC may be applied for product dosage but only if used correctly.

ashop's picture

Plus for those who are curios please check here how similar is Jellotrip and HailRazor with Angus and his testing methods. The same way of forging answers analyzes same kind of replies

https://www.eroids.com/pics/estimation-of-steroids-concentration-by-mass...

https://www.eroids.com/pics/steriod-purity-assesment-by-electrospray-ion...

Here is a old post by me where I published methodology internationally accepted for testing steroids

https://www.eroids.com/pics/methods-of-testing-steroids-internationally-...

ashop's picture

I will not make any unecessary comments. Now those are facts please address them so you can prove your labs are legit