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Test Prop / Masteron Prop

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So I was wanting to run a winter cycle and I had posted about DHB and Test but I think I want to hold off on that for a summer cycle. I typically dont do the whole "winter/summer" cycle thing but I digress. So I really want to run a light cycle of Test Prop and Mast Prop. I wanted to try and do 300mg of Test Prop a week and 600mg of Mast a week along with 4 IU's of growth a day. I know that Masteron is known to lower estrogen and sometimes crash people out. However, I have a crazy high rate of conversion leaving me to believe that I may be able to get away with running mast higher than my test. Also, I love Test Prop. I also love Masteron. Ive just never ran it like this before. I also have Turinabol as well that I was going to throw in there. Like I said, I wanted to keep this light. Just seeing what people think of this. Ive ran some very successful cycles before. I just wanted to see what you guys think of this because its a little different to me. This cycle isnt something that Im desperate to run and something that is NOT absolutely happening. I just wanted to throw it out there. By the way, I wont be starting this until November timeframe. Thanks guys.

Makwa's picture

Last time I ran mast that high I was pissing blood.

HanginLow's picture

why would masteron make you piss blood? It is structurally similar to primobolan but maybe a little more androgenic and more of an AI effect but still a pretty mild DHT IMO. were you in prep? thats a pretty bad side effect

Makwa's picture

Only thing I can think of is it messed my prostate up. Was kind of scary. Yeah I was prepping. Bumped up the mast and that is when the shit hit the fan.

HanginLow's picture

very strange, lots going on during prep though; stims, cal deficit, immune system low

we put our bodies through the wringer

Makwa's picture

I really wanted to try a dry out a bit and end so bumped mast up to 600mg and a few days later starting pissing blood. Dropped it back down and things back to normal in couple days. Only change was the mast dose so I am going to attribute it to that.

HanginLow's picture

Attributing is one thing but assuming someone else will have the same result is another. I have seen people run 1g of mast or primo countless times with no blood piss. Prep makes the body weak though, glad you got it sorted.

papa.smurf0311's picture

ooof. I didnt know it was that rough. I thought you kind of had to run it high. what would you think of running it at 300 a week?

Makwa's picture

300mg is my standard dose when running mast

Rustyhooker's picture

Long esters is a lot easier. Ive run shorts or longs on that combo. Still gotta run bloods because not everyone gets the lower e2. Theres a whole forum on that where a ton of members ran bloods to see truth or not.

papa.smurf0311's picture

yea Ive ran long esters forever. the first time I ran short esters was this year. Loved it. the pinning kinda sucked but really wasnt that bad. I switched up between 4 to 6 injections sites. I honestly dont think Ill crash out with masteron because I have a crazy conversion rate. Ill get bloods about 2 to 3 weeks in to see where im at.

Rustyhooker's picture

75 75 ed was my spot. Of course ratios can be changed. Will look forward to your feedback on tbol. The brand i got increased aggression. I swear it musta been mismarked halo...lol.

papa.smurf0311's picture

lol thats wild. yea I was working over seas in Baghdad for a while as Diplomatic Security. Making crazy money. Had no bills or anything so the money I made just got stacked. I was there for roughly 4 years. After I resigned, I had all this money stacked up so I purchased like 4 grand worth of gear and AI's and supplements lol. I bought to Tbol and havent used it yet. I heard it was one of the lighter choices when it came to orals. I guess ill try to run it at 40 mg daily. I wanted to keep things light. 300 Test Prop, 300 Masteron Prop, 40mg Tbol ED, and 4 IU's of growth ED. LOL I suppose that doesnt sound light but in my eyes its light considering Ive ran almost 2 grams of gear a week one time.

Rustyhooker's picture

If youre bustin ass and foods on point, youll do great! Looks like a solid gear layout! Irishmack loves tbol. I want to try different brand some day. So far var is my favorite oral but with it being winter i might dig up some of the dbol i have. Light dose too. I do 5mg every 4 hrs with mean for 15 total. Seems plenty for me. Might go 10mg x 3

papa.smurf0311's picture

My favorite oral is by far Var. LOVE IT. Never tried Tbol before but Ill give it a shot. Thats funny you say that about Dbol because I run it low to and still see great results. id do 10mg am and 10 mg pre workout. Yeah my diet is always on point if im cycle. usually 3500 calories of clean food.

bundlz's picture

I only use short esters bro a good injection rotation is needed... this whas one of my best cycles test p mast p ..now i just changed the mast p by superdrol i do not reccomd anything on your cycle
i would do it like this
1ml test p eod
With 1.5ml mast p
40mg provi 20 morning 20 pre wo
your hgh 4iu upperbody days pre wo pin
Rest / leg day 2iu morning 2iu evening /post work out after legs

papa.smurf0311's picture

Nice. I like it. Thats about how I run my GH anyway. 4 IU pre workout. I also do have some proviron on me as well.

HanginLow's picture

Just gunna be a lot of pinning but Mast/Test/Tbol is a solid cycle. Personally I would do it with everyday injections with insulin pins to keep prop levels stable.

papa.smurf0311's picture

yea I was going to pin Monday, Wednesday, and Friday late afternoon. I feel like with the amount that I am wanting to do, Slin pins may not be the best way but I can try to figure it out.

press1's picture

If your mind is made up on EOD pinning I really would consider just using Enanth or Cyp, you are going to be up and down like a YoYo EOD on 300mg/wk prop. If prop was higher you could more likely get away with it as it will linger into the next day more but I know most like to keep it low.

HanginLow's picture

I agree he's saying just 3 times a week which is even worse. I personally feel the most stable on prop with every day injections.

papa.smurf0311's picture

I mean, my last cycle was Test prop, and NPP and ive never had a more successful cycle. Pinned monday, wednseday, and firday evening. seemed to be fine with me. For some reason Enanthate i seem to have trouble with aromatase. Im not sure why. Ill be getting blood work two weeks into this cycle to see where im at. I dont even mind pinning everyday if it s a cycle when i cruise on test i use Test cyp. 100 mg monday and 100 mg thursday. I see multiple people pinning Prop EOD.

press1's picture

Absolutely - it took me about 2 weeks to figure out why I had much less energy when lifting on the day after pinning and from then on I never did EOD again. The solution is to go with Phenylprop but it is trickier to find and often more expensive than prop. So may as well go Enanth. There really are many injection sites on the human body when you look into all the different areas (I've even been known to do my balls - Joke)

Tricepatops's picture

I buy PP instead of prop cause I get more stable bloods it seems and the pip is less for me.

HanginLow's picture

PP is a great ester I agree

FJB's picture

Anyone that pins the boys is one bad mofo lmao. Hell, I'm not sure I could find mine even if I wanted to

press1's picture

LMAO You'll never use HCG again!