posted Mon, 03/24/2014 - 08:34
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Test C, EQ, Primo
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I have done many cycles, but i have used mostly shorted ester compounds like test prop, test suspension, Tren A, Mast prop.... I am coming to the end of my current cycle, i am coming off for 1-1/2 to 2 months then jumping back on. I think i am going to run test cyp, EQ, and Primo when i come back on through the summer. Where do i need to be with ideal doses with the compounds. i have never ran primo before and just want to get an idea of what i am going to need to pick up so i have everything ready. Do you guys see any difference in running test cyp over prop when cutting? From what i understand , primo needs to be ran fairly high?
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Only ran primo the once and I got it all wrong to be perfectly honest. Definitely one for Vike to help you with.
i need to go eat now so i will be brief....... i will come back later but dont run EQ with primo, its counter-productive and hides the special finish which each compound alone brings....... NOW to bring some controversy to the thread and make people stop and think for a moment....... i personally prefer sustanon for cutting over all other long ester tests (i find its the driest form of test).... right gotta go eat.
OK V- I'll bite. I ran SUS a while ago (8years or so) and noticed that I didn't hold as much water. Where I work I can get bloods done anytime I want for free-sort of a service they provide in our onsite clinic-Doc is pretty cool and she doesn't ask dumb questions. Any ways, I had bloods run 3 times in 10 weeks 3-7-10 and all 3 times the numbers were quite a bit different, not off the charts but not stable, but did have a clean taper at the end. I chaulked it up as a quality issue. So is it drier because the shorter esters keep the plasma levels unstable? Or am I way off here?
thats sounds about right with the stability factor i suspect you would have been pinning twice pr wk going back eight yrs it was pretty unknown about the EOD protocol helping to keeps bloods a hella lot more stable..... ok so to the dryness aspect i am not totally sure why but after many many times running it it always gives me the drier effect even when used in a bulking stack it always leaves me with a really dry look.... in fact i had a piccie up not long ago showing how dry i was running deca/sus and the guys where amazed with most thinking i was running a tren/mast combo.
@PinChusion below........... im impressed brother thats some good shit you just brought to the table and makes good sense when looked at in a logical manner..... thing is though is that i can only speak for myself with sust, some guys bloat like water buffalo... maybe its because my AI approach is totally different or the diet tactics maybe! it would certainly make for a good mass experiment to see who does well on sust and who bloats bad........ interesting stuff indeed and its got me thinking about creating a mass experiment within the community but i dont have the time i used too have for stuff like this....... maybe someone else would be interested in starting this thing off........ CryHavoc comes to mind as a guy who thrives on details, maybe a 10 guy experiment would prove to show a varied result range.
Sust sales have just increased by 25% lol.
This time tomorrow, we'll all have orders in.
Thanks for the reply, I wish I found this place a long time ago... Yes pinned e3d, it was actually one of the first cycles I really focused the commitment on with diet and training and I had great results. Added 15 lbs-held 12. Not huge numbers but the quality was pretty good.
When its quality bro 15lbs is not to be sniffed at.... thats good gaining in any bodys book........ see thats how i pinned in the 80s early 90s with the e3d protocol, when the EOD protocol showed up it brought new life into sustanonin two ways... it meant i could pin less oil (mgs) and be a lot more stable especially with the prop as every 14 days would consist of 7 pins doing EOD correctly .... fantastic!.
Just a quick question on a somewhat related note... I plan on doing an npp cycle. I've asked about enanthate and other ester of test. I was going to go with the test prop advice.... Would you recommend doing sust instead? Less fluid I would have to pin?
Here's a link to the thread. Thanks!
www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/npp-cycle
Well I'll take a stab at your claim for Sust. Would it be because with the 4 different ester 2 short 1 medium, 1 long. Short Esters will hit you first while the long keeps the ride going and the middle balances it out. Sust also enhances protein synthesis, nitrogen retention, and also increases IGF-1. It also increases RBC to carry all that oxygen through the blood. But I think maybe the most important is glucocorticoid suppression, or in my terms suppressing the bad hormones that cause stress and fat.
I've looked into Sust a lot because I ran a 350 ugl version and liked the results, but I later found out after using it that I was dosing it wrong. I did twice a week pins, but should have probably done EOD. This was the only form of Test i had noticeable Estro sides with, and I'm sure that was the reason. So I could have achieved a lot more with this compound. I know better now, and hope you can give the real scoop on this so when I try it again I am fully prepared.
Wish I would have found this place before I tried anything. Live and learn and I'm definitely learning.
Ok, i will toss the EQ, definately want to run the primo. going to have test cyp as part of my TRT script, So i figured i would just pick up some xtra and i have time to let my bottles build up since i am not starting this for about 2 months. What would you recommend in place of the EQ to go along with the Test cyp and Primo? I think you saw my current progress and i plan to use this cycle and your diet to get to my goal of shredded by end of the summer. Tren ?
Nothing bro.............. for best results primo should be the prime compound with low dose test in the background, you need NOTHING else or the primo is wasted....... the finish you get from primo is like nothing on earth if diet is worked similar to comp prep...... check out some of suzy Bs early comp pics.... thats a classic primo metallic finish......... she looks like cut-glass.
Let primo shine ... do not cloud it with any other compound, also research well and speak to the source boss to make sure you are getting nothing but the best..... do not go cheap, and take your time to source nothing but the best.... if you need help with this hit me in PM sources will not fuck with me, and i have guys i trust with gear i pin suzy with so shit will not fly brother.
How long have you been on your current cycle? 1 to 2 months isn't enough time to be off: Time one + PCT = Time off.
im just over 2 months. im a TRT guy.
I figured, but I wasn't sure. I am TRT as well and I try to follow the time on/off as far as my blasts go, due to health reasons. Food for thought.
Primo does need to be run fairly high and that usually makes it cost prohibitive. It's also one of the most counterfeited aas out there.
im gonna jump back on quick and blast through most of the summer, then take an extended break on the blasts
If you have good quality primo, I would run that with your test and drop the EQ.