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Difference between var and Winnie at low BF%?

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Current cycle: 16 wks

250mg/wk Sust
500mg/wk 1-test cyp (DHB)
500mg/wk Mast E
50mg/d proviron

Age 44
Height: 5'5"
Weight: 177
BF: 8.5%

This is my competition prep cycle. I am debating on whether or not to add an oral at the end of cycle to further harden/dry things up if need be come competition time. I am debating between var or Winnie. Both are common additions in a cutting cycle but my main question is once you are down to 3% BF do either of these produce a substantially different look? Is one better than the other in terms of dryness, hardness, vascularity, etc at super low BF. The differences in these attributes may not be easily seen at say 6-8% BF but I think the game really changes once you are in the low single digits so I am just curious if the differences in these drugs can be seen at really low bodyfat. If not, I will probably go with Var if I do include an oral due to the fact that winnie can dry out the joints and mine are plenty dry right now.

strongman6969's picture

What works for me, when I start dropping bf, is I notice winny makes me look drier and harder than var. Winny works even better than masteron if bf is low enough. Halo>winny>mast>var if bf is extremely low. You look great btw man! I would never of guessed you were in your 40s.

GrowMore's picture

I have never ran Anavar but a cycle or 2 ago I ran a winstrol finisher I believe the plan was 50/70 ED for 6 weeks and I tell you what after week 4 my toes were in a serious amount if pain constantly, indescribable how much they hurt.. I can't barely imagine what it would be like during the drying phase of your prep.

Results wise I cannot really say, I did look good but I would put my money on that being more of the diet and the test.

Makwa's picture

How long did it take for the achy joints to go away after you stopped?

GrowMore's picture

Forever.. Well, seemed like that, in guessing 8 weeks total. I supplement with fish oils and in my opinion ear healthy.

tonytulo's picture

Quality var is nice. But when it comes to stage I would choose a 5 week winny finisher after test p tren ace, and mast prop. My wife is currently running test p mast p with a winny finisher with a couple other things , knowing when to water deplete is key , and having your diet on point. For example pre contest diets differ , eating the same amount of carbs cals fats and proteins every day isn't the best way for me , I train my body around peak week like if my show is on a Saturday im going to load carbs Friday , so even 20 weeks out I have a small spike in my carbs every Friday so my body is expecting it and every Saturday and sunday im fuller looking. But to each their own.

Bigs251's picture

I've always preferred var over winny due to winny does nothing for me accept give my achy joints and a little less water retention. Var gives me a much harder granite like appearance

Catalyst's picture

The big question is have you got access to real, decent anavar?

These days I feel both drugs are almost redundant for contest prep. Neither do anything that can't be achieved using prop / tren / mast and correct diet / water depletion. Not sure how you tackle the later personally.

Makwa's picture

Taking it to this level is a new experience for me. Diet I am confident in, water manipulation we'll see. No tren in this run.

Real, decent Anavar is the big question. Assuming it is, do you have a preference for one or the other?

Catalyst's picture

Only one guy I'd trust his Anavar from a UGL point of view. Drop me a line if you need to.