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Pct Questions

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Evening everyone.

Im going to start off by giving some background.
New to this world still as ive only run two cycles with a cruise between.

First cycle was 300mg test c split every 3.5 days, and 150mg of npp for theraputic, for 12 weeks. Was dealing with shoulder issues and wanted to be able to still do upper body without as much trouble. I know i was covering up some of the problem by doing this, but i had some success even still during this cycle. My e2 was definitely higher on this cycle, but nothing .25mg arimidex every 3.5 days didnt manage. My Test level during this time was almost 3000 ng per dl

Wanted to continue on through the summer without losing the size i had built so i moved down to 125mg per week but decided to switch to m,w,f now. This was fine and t levels sat at 950 ng/dl. I did this as my health phase for 3 months to just cruise into what i wanted to next.

My next cycle i wanted to mitigate e2 so this time after more research, i decided on 400mg of test p, and 450mg mast p per week, but inj every day. This cycle went phenomenal, and did exactly what i wanted. Weight loss, keep lean muscle and continue to build strength. I ran this cycle for 14 weeks before deciding i wanted to pct and get back to a base line to get a sense of how my body reacted to this 9 months worth of PEDs.

Fast forward to now, and my pct was built originally off what everyone here suggests, but i actually moved to the PCT that Dr. Dean St. Mart had written out. I researched this protocol and decided this was the route i would take. I did the 5 weeks drug clearing, then blood work to see where my body was sitting, which according this protocol, after doing bloods would be 2000mg of HCG weekly to get LH and FSH restarted.

Here in lies my question. This protocol has me ready to start HCG, but my blood work came back that my LH and FSH were not shut down, but functioning properly, and my test level at just below 400 ng per dl, and e2 at 22. According to the protocol you would start clomid to help bump natural test levels, and support endocrine system to get everything back to normal range. Originally it was 100mg of clomid for 2 weeks, then 1 week at 50mg and 1 week at 25mg.

Does anyone have any suggestions of what clomid does/ length i would take, if any at all? In my head i think 50mg for 1 week and 25mg next week would just give everything a kick start.

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I would recommend enclomiphene rather than regular clomid but at half the dosage you suggested in your post and for twice the duration of time. Clomid is composed of 2 isomers zuclomiphene and enclomiphene. Enclomiphene is the ideal isomer of Clomid and zuclomiphene is the isomer responsible for the negative side effect. So basically enclomiphene is refined clomid. You can find it now on a few peptide sites with some quick googling.

You can also toss in some Gorilla Mind Sigma. It's a supplement with natural test boosters (mainly tongkat and fedogia) that boosts FSH/LH. One can expect 200 to 400 ng/dL boost out of it depending on your starting levels.

Its pretty cool that you maintained some amount of HPTA function through that cycle. I've read where Test P isnt as harsh on shutdown and maybe that's why.