posted Mon, 11/10/2014 - 15:17
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Truth about ANAVAR
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Guys and Gals for months now I been searching for the best VAR and found out the only real pharma. I also come to find that most UGL VAR is either DBOL or WINNY or very under dosed VAR.
What's your thoughts on this? Is it even worth hunting for VAR?
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tony716Pound this is what I've read in many places and some UGL guys confirmed that. Don't ask names but I'm not bullshitting
witekI agree that it is hard to find good anavar and if you find the real one it is very expensive
SHIT!!............ And there was me getting ready for a Var only blast!........... my dreams are now shattered ........ maybe i should triple my creatine dose ???
tony716Viking I'm sure you know there is at least some validity to what I'm saying and if you say I'm completely 100% wrong then you must still believe you can keep your insurance if you like it lol
You are 100% correct brother.......... i was just messing with humorous comment!.......... reason why we see everybody hitting 100mgs of var daily is because of the under dosed factor!..... its the same with oils too, thats why folks have to pin 2grams to get the same feel as 500mg of the real stuff.
Anabolics are more popular thesedays than ever before in history........ which leads to fucking criminals and ass wipes brewing shit and selling without a care in the fkn world............ who would have thought that the Mexican Sarsaparilla plant would have ever become so popular......... if you dont understand what im talking about here read the Underground Steroid Handbook by Dan Duchaine........... you will also learn the first ever HCG was created by boiling down gallons of Dog Piss!....... i think i must have had some of that because the wife says i have nutz like a Great Dane lmfao!!!!!!
tony716Very interesting Vik. Dog poss is bad but Mexican dig puss us worse lol
Lol, grate dame.
Your right about the pharm grade at 250mg it puts me in the top 1800-2000 range. 350 mg of Pham grade is about as high as I will go. But with ugl I can play with upto 750mg before I realize that's my limit.
On the var. I have to admit I been scammed a few times. I had to toss a batch which I know was Dbol. Dbol gives me uncofterble unique symptoms that I don't get with var
tony716That sucks. .... see just give us the full dose and charge us for it . I would rather pay more and get legit shit then paying less for mediocre
Depends on the ugl. When I use a new source I run his gear for 2 month at my Trt dose. Then walk to my endo office and ask for labs.
When I run var or other thing I also do the minimum effective dose and run labs to see the damage in labs but your body tells you.
I'm pretty shore I would get the boot if I sold something here. Something I would not even consider for obvious reason.
I hear you on paying for quality. But when I travel out their to train, you would be shocked on the real pharm grade stuff you can buy stright out the phamacys and the cost.
Exchange rate is 1$ for 42 peso. The bottle of test cyp is 630peso. It's hard not to grab 5. And give them to your boys
I was just in Mexico, the exchange rate was 1:11.50. It's currently 1:13.62. Cialis was like $32 per 20mg pill. I was looking forward to the pharmacies until I saw the prices. Then again, I was in a resort town, maybe they'd be better in the ghetto.
If in cancun. Take a cab into "el centro" next to the Walmart looking store. It's a small phamacy with a clinic in it.
Their prices are really good, then go next door they got Jose Cuervo tequila 750 ml for 13$ US dollars.
I got good price, not sure if it's because I'm Hispanic and spoke in Spanish. All my white american friends stayed out side while I asked around we ended sending a nice package back home by dhl
Johnny.SackI understand where your comming from. Its definitely not what it once was. You hear stories of the old school body builders back in the day only using a 2.5mg tab of var and were good... a few years back a majority of the ugl stuff was prob crap. Nowadays I believe you are getting oxandrolone, but like I said its not as potent.50-100mg seems to be the norm in var dosing nowadays. I read somewhere most 50mg var from a ugl is only about half dosed, but its def got oxandrolone in it. Testing is alot easier, they have at home test kits like Labmax where you can test the product in the convenience of your home to see if the product you have is really what's its supposed to be. And you have results in minutes. So its alot easier to weed out the imposters.
And how exactly did you reach this conclusion?
tony716First I researched the raw compound then I visited many boards and spoke with a couple UGL affiliated guys or they. CLiam to be.
Then I found only the largest American drug company has a lab and they sell from 15 to 20 a pill. Plus found that var is the most counterfeited juice.
And your basing this conclusion off of "research" done online... Sure, because they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true. Just sayin brother. Spend a lil time browsing the site. You'll find the lab work andass spec's done and posted to be more valuable to you.
No offense Doss but the same mass specs show 98% pure anavar for 50% the price it would cost to actually be pure and dosed correctly. Just like legit dbol and anadrol were rarely run over 50mg a day with outstanding gains plus a nosebleed to match. Now all of a sudden total noobs with no experience can run 100-150mg of adrol/dbol/var and feel "ok"?. I wouldn't believe every source that says they've had a "97% puremass spec" and nothing more to back it up...besides a very affordable price for an extremely expensive compound.
Expensive depends on we're and from who you compare it to. China and India makes some pretty cheap high quality raws.
I can get a bottle of test XYZ in the Dominican republic for 15 US dollars right out the Pharmasists with out a script. In the USA I get the same test for 108$. I have bought extra test when I fly out their. Customs looks at them and asks if I payed the tax.
I'm just saying because an American pharma sells it at XYZ does not mean over seas it's cost is the same.
Most likely the Raws are coming from out of the countries were its not illegal or require to get a script. Laboratory want to make sales.
And how many members here have had problems with generics from India if all their raws are the same. How is India pumping out 200mg+ viagra when half a 100mg Pfizer would make most people's heads pop
If you're looking at a mass spec that says 98% pure then you don't know what you're actually looking at. That cannot be attained in a final product due to binders and fillers added prior to the press. Those numbers are on the Raws themselves.
I do know what I'm looking at and should of been more specific. I only meant the raws because any source that knows what their doing wouldn't send in a pressed tab and expect everyone to try and subtract out fillers and such to see if it was dosed correctly. I was only stating my opinion with the price of compounds. It's like I said with dbol, 50mg and above would have your nose bleeding, a ton of water retention and a lot higher bp. Now you see noobies on their first oral starting off with 100mg and thinking of upping their dose. And this is with raws that mass specs put at > 97%. I'm sorry if my initial post seemed like I had a cocky attitude and was negative toward you in any way. That's definitely not the case. When I first joined here and still to this day I respect and take into consideration everything you and a few other select vets have to say. I meant no disrespect and was only stating my opinion from researching that compound. Be safe and stay healthy Doss....FR sent
This is another example of how information can be both a good and bad thing. Too much info scattered out makes it difficult for people to make an accurate assessment and informed decisions. Personally for me, I'd like to see mass specs on the Raws then again on the pill. Yes, we used to see these done this way. From there, I can see to what percentage of the raw was used and what gras the raw was at when incorporated.
I know brother. It all comes down to really trusting your source, his suppliers, and where he's getting it tested. As many good sources that we have here, how many are actually testing all their raws before they put them up for sale. Plus the fact that MANY people do get their gear tested but how many actually post the less then great results. 95% of the time they contact the source for compensation or to cut a deal before it gets posted in our lab tests. It's really a guessing game unless you're picking up your script from a doctor. Just look at doctor prescribed trt bloods compared to somebody who is self medicating. I posted a lab test from when legit pharma was easy to obtain and trust me...I have absolutely nothing to gain by lying to this community
tony716Do you know of any real labs on var anywhere
pm me
tony716Rusty I rewrote the question. Can you offer anything on this question.
RustyhookerI've seen both sides of the question. It's where these reviews and lab tests by honest folks pays off. Read and research thoroughly. Anything can change.
Appreciate your patience
RustyhookerNO BRAND TALK IN FORUMS. READ RULES
Congrats on the new/old job bud
RustyhookerHope I can carry the weight. Thanks Doss!
I'm sure you can brother.