posted Fri, 04/25/2014 - 18:45
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Test P/Tren A flu?
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Hey guys. So I've been on Test P and Tren A for 3 days now which means I just did my 3rd pin. When I woke up this morning from my second pin the night before I felt like shit. My muscles were unusually achy, I felt way more tried than usual and my mind is a bit foggy and dizzy and I have zero urge to workout. How common is this? Does anyone know how long until it passes?
I used 6.25mg of aromasin the 2nd day and I took .25mg of caber today. And as I side note I never got test flu from test e.
Can I get some info here?
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No stats! The only advice you get is Stop pinning-get bloods. Second cycle and you went withTren--Get a clue!
WOW why are we giving out advice to somebody that has not gave up stats and age and cycle history.. some of the advice i have read below absolutley blows my mind with the stupidity.. if you honestly can not give advise that makes good sense THEN JUST KEEP QUIET... for the love of BABY JESUS
I want STATS and cycle history up in here (age importantly).............. MoFoS below you could be talking to a fkn child here running tren!...... get it right or fuck off.
I also take more precautions than 99% of users. I always get my blood test pre during and post cycle. I never re use needles and always sterilize everything. I take proper supports and dose AIs based on bloods. Seems like the majority of dudes dont even use AIs and will only use them if they get gyno which I think is moronic. Im not running crazy dosages here. 50mgs a day is very conservative.
I'm not sure where you got your information but a AI isn't always needed if your not showing estrogen side effects. That's why a lot of people keep it on hand if needed. I'm one that rarely take AI because it's not needed in most cases with me. Just because you take Test Dosent mean you automatically have to take a AI but it does mean you have it on hand incase you show the side effects. There is more than just gyno there is bloating.. Water retention ... Acne.. But why take it if it's not needed?
Because on a test cycle above trt doses your estradiol levels are almost guaranteed to be out of range. Estrogen thats out of range has other bad health implications other than the sides you can see.Its best to keep E2 in range.
This is where u lack of research and understanding that not everyone needs a AI.. Listen do yourself a favor and stop posting on this thread because if the wrong perdon sees this agsin he will more than likely swing the hammer ban on you so read research and learn before you decide to run anything. .. Stop acting like you know everything there are a ton of guys that are super smart about these things.. And if you think everyone needs a AI have a conversation with V about this he will enlighten you
I put up my stats but I just know ill get a bunch of shit for being 22. People say im going to fuck myself up but I ran test e and if you look at my bloods almost 2 months after PCT my test levels were higher by 120 points even though unlike last time I wasnt taking tribulus, I wasnt in a caloric surplus, and my fats were cut by more than half. The age of 25 is to be ultra safe since some dudes go trhough puberty late in their lives around 17, I was an early bloomer and went through puberty at age 11/12
Your brain is still developing until 25ish...you can pop a boner at 11 or 12 and that's good but your brain isn't done maturing...I'm not calling you childish or saying you don't act mature I'm just stating the facts....when I was ur age I thought I was invincible too but with all that said one test e cycle and then straight to tren that's like smoking a joint and saying I tolerated that well let's try smack
I understand the developmental process. I understand that milanation of the nerves in the brain especially dont stop developing until around age 25 or so. This is partially why ive never smoked weed due to its effects however miniscule on brain development. I figure everyone has their vices. I dont drinkni dont smoke which take a much bigger toll on the body than anabolic androgens. So thats my vice and that the risk im taking. Less risky than other things people my age are doing if you ask me. So I would respectfully ask if people here not give me shit about my age as ive already made my well thought out decision. I thoroughly researched AAS for well over a year before I startednmy first cycle.
your not old enough to make that decision you only just legal too have a beer.... i had my 1st blow job at 13 didnt mean i could run tren at 22
I just said I dont need people giving me shit about my age.
you need to be flamed bro.... and your negs dont count mine do.... so do mods.... now off too bed
I really dont understand your mentality. I could just lie and say im 34 and no one would bat an eye. But I say im a 22 year old whos made an informed decision to take whatever risks that are associated with the use of AAS and instead of answering my question you decide to hate on me because of my age. Newsflash virtually all of the tip bodybuilders started AAS at age 18 or 19. I at least waited until late 21. And no I have no plans as of yet to compete.
i cant even be fkd getting started with you, it an un imformed fk up of a decision, tren at 22 is stupid, you may die. that is all. sigh.
I personally know many who have run way higher dosages of tren at age 17,19, and 20. Many ran crazy tren dosages as their first cycle. I think its pretty ridiculous to tell someone theyre going to die from running low dose test and tren. Theres no scientific basis to your statement at all. There are maybe 3 deaths anually attributes to steroid abuse. Your claim is so unsubstantiated I cant even begin to take any of your reccomendations seriously.
negged me again lol.
Yeah because you dont seem to understand that im my own person who can choose what they want to do. Did you not see my pre cycle bloods? I also check blood pressure myself twice a week and its always perfect/slightly low because I have good cardio. I could be 22 drinking and partying and doing coke and smoking like many my age and nobody on here would chastise me as much about that as they do tren. If you think properly running low dose AAS in a cautious and responsible manner isnmore dangerous than what my peers are doing then ive got some oceanfront property in Nevada I'd like to sell ya.
here is what you don't "get" your screwing up your endocrine system by supplementing in AAS eventually it will never recover and you will be a TRT patient for life.. the other thing is this community does not condone the use of AAS to people your age.. that's why we ask for stats and cycle history to see if we should even be giving you advice bro.. plus you are running TREN I would have had a little more respect if you would had just been running test E or C at low doses but you have obviously not done enough research and understanding what compounds do to your system at such a young age
Did you not see my pre cycle bloods? My test levels were higher 2 months after PCT than they were when I was completely natty. I must have fucked it up in a good way.
your 22 years of age we don't condone this bro
I completely understand. But ive already made my choice and I politely asked that people respect it. This is why I didnt post my age. I dont need people telling me what I already know. Like I said, the risks associated with AAS are not as dangerous as what my peers are doing. I never drink or smoke or do any recreational drugs. I routinely get blood tested and check my own blood pressure and eat train and sleep properly. Im not some "bro" who wants to get "toned up for summer" too lool good for a few weeks just so he can bang some chicks.
you are fkn 22 enough said i dont give a shit how smart you think you are and negging someone because they speak the truth shows how mature you really are. Just stop or look somewhere else for a cosigner to your ill chosen path.
Why are you so mad? My decisions have zero effect on your life. If im just some dumb kid you already said your piece yet you keep posting here with all your hate and anger.
its peace not piece, smfh. you obviously have no care what anyone says so just delete your account and head over to another forum that caters to children, youll get no cosigning or help with your stupidity since its already been said to stop and you dont want to, well noone wants to help you. Shoo fly, Shoo.
im eating a delicious home made stew rite now, im having it with 3 bread rolls, im thinking of having ice cream and some fruit after it, i like fruit
I don't disrespect anyone on this site...I just try to help...I really wish you would've thought out jumping straight into teen after test if for no other reason than u can make a lot of gains off from a lot of other compounds... I won't disrespect you I'll just say most of us don't approve so just like u asked me not to judge your age don't judge me and my bros for not wanting to encourage your behavior and lifestyle choices
I understand completely. To be honest I was going back and forth for months about whether to run var or tren. I eventually settled on low dose tren. Just felt like running var would be a waste forwhat my goals are if I wasnt already or under 10%. Got a photoshoot coming up as well so I gotta get leaner faster than I normally did as a natty.
And if u check out his profile he just did the last ebc and said it was his first cycle ever
stats and cycle history cmon guys you should all know better.
Is this the first time you run prop? Same question for Tren. If so that's one of the reasons it's suggested to try one new compound at a time. Yes test is test but people respond differently to each ester. Ok, now to answer your question. Treat the symptoms. Get plenty of rest, which you should be doing anyway. If symptoms get worse I hate to tell you but you know what to do. That's why I like short esters with New compounds, when the symptoms hit you too bad you can bail and regroup instead of waiting for it to clear your symptoms. Good luck buddy. Hope tippy feel better and get back to going HAM in the gym soon
yes first time running each of those compounds. I don't feel terrible. I'm not bed ridden. Although I can see it happening. From what I've read this seems to be a very common side early on.
amrakAlso, test "flu" is not like a regular flu. Its just symptoms. They go away within a day if u assist your body in fighting the new foreign substance you just injected.
Its just ur bodys way of rejecting/ adjusting to the foreign compound. I agree with the emergenc and any fever reducer. Ibuprofen didnt help me but advil pm did break the fever after running it for 36hrs. When i got test flu it was from cyp and i felt like i was gonna die. Really the only way to get past this is to keep pinning. I feel ur pain , just keep moving foward.
Are you fkn serious!............. do you know the OPs stats or age?.... you wanna come playing in cycles section you play by my rules........... GOT THAT!
I agree, terrible advice to keep pinning... Thank u for calling me on my shit
ok...... heres your money back bro.
amrakYeah the feverish aches are the worst. Lethargy kills your ability to train as well. It won't be too bad since its prop and won't linger.
amrakDid you get any PIP from the prop? Also how much was in each injection? I got test flu from swole's prop since its very potent and felt exactly like this but its nothing too serious. Just get some EmergenC from the pharmacy (immune formula) and take 400mg ibuprofin. You can add 1-2 grams of vitamin c on top of that 12 hrs apart and it should clear it up. You're body will get used to it and you should be fine.
Yup pip from the tren a and test prop. Probably prop but I mixed em both in the same barrel. I'm taking 4,000mgs of vitamin c a day spread out throughout the day.
amrakHow much prop are you dosing? Have you tried some ibuprofin or aleve? I took 100mg of prop two days in a row and all I wanted to do was sleep all day. ibuprofin and vitamin c fixed me right up.
50mgs of both prop and 50mgs of ace