-1 Am I a good candidate for roids?
Okay here me out. I've been active since I was young. Tons of sports and everything and very disciplines from a young age. Lifting on and off since I was a kid but didn't really start with consistency until around age 17. I'm now almost 22, Around 5'8 176lbs at 14% bodyfat, 16.4" arms cold flexed and I can bench 245x3 squat 300x5 and my deadlifts suck due to body mechanics but I can get 350x5. I went through puberty at a very young age, hair on my dick and balls and voice changes at around 11 years old so not late bloomber here. I've been researching steroids for about a year now and am part of a bunch of different forums and my friends who are on steroids ask ME for advice because of all the research I have done and I feel comfortable with my knowledge but I always want to learn more and more.
I've had blood tests done around 1 month ago and my total test levels are in the mid 500s so they're not "sky high" like people say they should be at my age. I'm pretty good about getting blood levels etc and as a side note, I'm NOT considering doing steroids because I'm impatient. I'm a very patient person and spending a long time to achieve something sounds better to me which is why I don't want to run extremely high doses and get big really fast, I want to use steroids to get where I would NEVER be able to get naturally no matter how much time I spend.
Thoughts?
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No your gonna mess your body up. Train 5x weekly...eat right. Your best friend wont be steroids but gnc. Load up on suplements. If you try and inject right now yoy will have problems the rest of your life
Pretty sire training 5x daily will mess everyone up my friend. I already train 5-7 days a week and eat plenty and take my supplements.
No, You are not a good candidate for steroids. First off your AAS choice is never meant to be in the hands of strangers. Also if you gained 65lbs in weight in a matter of months than your in no need of AAS if the those lbs were not 75% fat/water retention. The hardest thing to learn in regards to AAS and cycles is patience! When you look in the mirror you may see imperfections or areas to improve while everyone around you admires what you have now. At 22 bud give it 3-5 more years and see how much you can build naturally from now until then. Not al hormones are bad but at 22 if your gains are that good....why throw high octane in an already perfectly running engine!
That 65 lbs in a matter of months was probably 80% fat. Nobody can put on that much qualoty size naturally. Even on gear.tou can't.do 65 lbs.of quality gains. I was trying to show that I can eat as much as I need to beyond my maintenance level calories. I got fat as fuck and this was about 2 years ago. Right now I'm sitting at 177 or so at around 14% bodyfat at 5'8"
If it means anything, I started at 40 and had been training for 20 plus years before my 1st pin. Just my 2cc worth.
I would say you are too young to start.
Plus people are more apt to help you if you fill out your profile and throw up some pictures of your bigger and stronger physique then the rest of us..
Good luck Cuz
Okay man, I posted pics in case you want to see. These were from many months ago like I said. http://www.eroids.com/pics/natural-physique-no-steroids-yet.
Dude you are solid, but judging by you weight NOT even your age, you need to eat more!!! Alot more... Gear is nothing without food...do you think if you keep your diet the same any gear is going to make you bigger?...every guy on here says this with respect: research the food aspect before you pin. You have to lift big to get big and eat big to get big. Steriods are last resort or a means to enhance proformance for financial reasons...friend some 50 karma and up people and ask for nutrition advice to pin point your plan of eating and that will be good research.
To answer your question your not ready and if your mind is made up i hope you go small dose test per week with stockpiled AI. Dont screw yourself up.
Haha the food is absolutely no problem, I have NO ISSUES whatsoever gaining weight. I went from 125 to 190 in a matter of months from consuming over 5k calories many years back and by bodyfat hit around 30%. Just for reference, in that pic I was 162 or so, now I'm 177 but I'm a bit fatter now of course.
I didn't say I had a better or bigger physique than the rest of YOU guys, I said than most of the people I know my age who juice. But many of them have only done 1 to 2 cycles though and not properly so it's not saying much. Although I will say I have seen some pictures of people who are "high ranking" around here who give a lot of advice and I have better physique than them when they're on gear. To be honest I don't have a lot of good shots of myself but I think I'll post some pics and you guys can be the judge and flame me, they're from a few months ago though when I was documenting how much size I had lost lol.
Do you have a 100 mph fastball? If you do then i will be ur agent and personally inject you. You know for your million dollar earning potential. Lol
Other than that Here is my opinion i think you should keep training hard and friend some folks on here that can tune your diet in to get big and strong. No one is lying when they tell you proper food consumption is more important than AAS...steriods are not going anywhere i promise you that...i have been on trt for over 6 years because i fucked up my endocrine system(docs words) in my 20's bad for the greater glory of power and strength( and no internet or eroids to guide me)..i dont care if you believe me or not i promise you once you start nothing you do will taste the same as when you cycled. Stay aas free till your body has maxed out.
As for being bigger and stronger than most people on here it doesnt make you better or wiser.
I try to give some advice to people around your age at the gym all the time. I'm not gonna beat around the bush here but mid 500's you have sooo much natty potential left it's crazy. If you really dial in your diet and do the right thing you have no idea what you're still capable of. We all joke about GNC and shit like that here but there are a TON of supplements that will make you feel like you're "ON" something. I started juicing a lot younger than you with less than the total test you had running through your body and I was benching 315 for 8 reps when I was 17 YEARS OLD before I even considered gear! That was because I ate like an animal a used to slam down a canister of "designer protein" every other day (you're too young to even know what that is but I'm sure a few other members are having a flashback right now).! My last blood work 2 weeks ago had me at 498 total test.....and I WAS THRILLED that I was still that high at my age with all the stupid shit I did. I'm not gonna ramble on and on but if you put your diet in check you're gonna grow brother. I know I am with my natty test levels....I wish I had yours, I'd be killing that fucking gym. You still have PLENTY of time bro. I hope you do the right thing, any questions on training/dieting all natty shoot me a PM, sending you a friend request now. Stay healthy and smart, hope you make the right choices....we only have one body and set of organs bro.
What was your weight height and bodyfat percentage at 17 when you were benching 315 for 8? Only people I see doing weight like that are either on juice or fat, usually they're both.
Why would I get a thumbsdown for asking a well thought out question??
Someone probably gave you a thumbs down because of your age and thinking about juicing with 500 TT
Mid 500s isn't even average at my age, it's below average, there are men in their 40s with better T levels. Like I said in my post, I'm not trying to look good, I already have a fantastic physique and put up very respectable numbers for my weight, but ever since I was young I've always strived to be the best at everything I do and my goal is to have one of the best physiques ( subjective of course, I want the best physique in my eyes ) in the world, and that just isn't not achievable naturally. When I diet down I can get to single digits but when i do I'm flat and smooth like all naturals are. I want the full, grainy hard and polished look you can only achieve through using gear. I have friends who run these ABSURD doses, some have even used over a gram of gear fr their first cycles, I don't believe in that I originally only wanted to run low doses like 250-300mgs of test a week only to bring my T levels up to around 1000-1200 or so and at constant peak levels. But as I did more research I concluded that 500-600 a week of test would be better. I don't understand why people use 25 as the magic number and don't take into account individual genetics and circumstances.
Stop asking for our help; you already plan on doing it so just do it. You are a typical 22 year old that think you know everything and no matter what we say you will do the opposite; good luck to you, my help is done.
Listen man, you don't know me. If you read my post you would learn that I've been asking question and researching for aboit a year. If I was the typical 22 year old(I'm 21 btw you shoild have read my post) I would have maybe read what a basic cycle looks like and never read any further and I know many who just buy vials and inject away. Really don't understand the hostility.
BigBmajWhy the fuck you asking us bro? You made up your mind.
Go become a god already.
I agree with you Big, another fucking post asking for help on something they already have their mind made up on; I honestly have no idea why they even fucking ask for help? He did his research; but apparently not on what or who is right and wrong. My help is done, good luck cgi; We'll see you in a few months complaining that your gear must be bunk because you are not gaining a fucking thing.
U don't think I would gain a thing? I don't understandthe hostility man, honest question. I know people that are 16, 17 years old on gear and I think its dumb but they make crazy gains even then so I don't think yoi can make such an assertion. Plus my test levels aren't ultra high, they are below average at the mid 500s with even lower average free test.
I just want opinions, I see people throwing out the magical number of 25 though, I want people with experience, also people who have tried different things than what everyone on the forums recommend. I know everyone says just test for your first cycle but what about kickstarting it with Oral Tbol?
BigBmajGo with just test. Listening is going to be your hardest mountain to climb. You've got a great base I suggest you wait but you've made up your mind. You should just listen and do it right.
25 is not a magic number. Many people here have gone earlier than that, I assure you that. No one wants to recommend anything to you because as a lot we don't encourage kids to get all juicy around here. But if your going to jump, you've got to learn to listen.
What about front loading with some prop for 2 weeks?
Not a good idea at such a young age and thats my advice. Get your diet on point; get a good training routine and do that for another 5 years. Once you are at that stage then start your journey. 22 is too fucking young unless your bloods showed you were closer to 200 or less. Then you would be a candidate for androgel. Trust me, it's too early in the game for you my friend. research all the sections here on diet and lifting schedules. Either listen to me or listen to your friends but if they are at your age in 5 years they will be fucked for the rest of their life while you are just starting yours.
Is there any particular reason you say this? I feel like my puberty is way passed me, as I said I went through puberty earlier around 11 years old which was earlier than almost all of my friends. I stopped growing in height at around age 15-16 and have been training consistently since age 17. I'm bigger and stronger than many dudes I know that are on roids pound for lb and many times overall.
If your bigger and stronger then your boys that are on juice (there) doing it wrong
Most of them didn't have a base. They worked out for maybe a year, usually under 2 years and then hopped on gear. And yes I've told them they're using them wrong and not eating properly and training improperly but they're on that "ON" feeling where they think they're superman and invincible and completely delusional.
then if this is the case you dont need juice; just keep doing what you are doing without it.
Anonthe endrocrine system does not reach a state of homeostasis until you're 25. It is constantly changing what I would call your "baseline numbers" that would appear on your bloodwork up to this point. After that, anything you want to fuck up is your own choice. (example, eating 5 cheeseburgers a day to kill your HDL/LDL)
you should be able to it 200+ I'd even go as far as saying 220+ with a good diet and strict training regime. at your weight, you're far from a plateau
25 is just an average number right? The same way there's an average age for when your growth plates fuse and an average age of puberty etc? Wouldn't you say someone who wen through puberty early and quickly at around age 11 could have their endocrine system mostly or fully developed earlier than 25 at around age 22 or 23? Also I don't know a single natural at my height who can hit 200+ pounds without getting fat. I used to get really fat when I wanted to put on mass but it's just dumb honestly because you lose much of what you gained when you try to lean out, the gains are not quality. I started at my height at 118lbs at the same bodyfat percentage roughly and now I'm 176. I was originally told naturals can only gain 30lbs of muscle but other than additional water and glycogen I've clearly surpassed that. I don't know how much more quality mass I can gain honestly. I've tracked my progress for years through hydrostatic bodyfat testing so I'm not making up numbers here.
hey bro, i believe that you are almost ready to start juicing, before you do, make sure you do plenty of research on PCT(post cycle therapy). nutrition is as important as the juice itself, don't take anything besides TEST e/c or sus on your first run.. ask a lot of questions and follow up with blood work after PCT.. fr me and i can help you plan out everything for a successful first run
Thanks man, I appreciate it. When I said I've researched it I meant to include all aspects including PCT. I know Clomid and Nolva at their common respective doses is considered a good PCT for about 4 weeks. I was thinking of running Test E/C for 12-14 weeks for my first cycle and POSSIBLY using tbol as a 4 week kick start at 40mg a day. I KNOW people saying just run test for your first cycle but I also know that your first cycle is the best cycle and the most gains that will ever be made will be made in that time so I think an oral from the get go would be a go idea because I would feel it right away while the test starts to build up and eventually kick in as well as I come off the tbol. Sound good?
mh001Tbol should be run at 6 weeks, if I'm not incorrect.