Shallow IM NPP
I try to rotate my injection sites around. I've been doing NPP EOD. Since I use a small amount for therapeutic benefits, I thought a 1/2" need or so would do the trick, shallow IM is what I thought. I tend to get quite a bit of PIP from NPP.
The other day I pinned 0.4 mL (40 mg) of NPP in my left quad, and sweet baby Jesus in a manger, my quad hurt for several days. I rubbed it quite a bit for relief. It might have looked marginally swollen, but no redness or anything. It's a lot better today. I think I'm going to use at least 1" henceforth.
Anyone else get PIP from NPP? I'll also mention that I get a little bit of PIP from even regular test, maybe because I still have virgin muscle. I mixed my NPP with some test and gave myself an injection yesterday, not the slightest PIP. I used a 1" needle.
I do test E3D.
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IMO/IMO - have not had PIP from it but, I use a 1” needle for delt, quads, pectoral, lats . I use 1.5” for Glutes and VG.
It may help because I get large volume (Aveed) 3ml/750mg TRT and they use a 22g 1.5” upper outer Glute and VG . I am pretty lean, a 1/2 inch isn’t appropriate for oil based IM injections (that is not standard of practice for RN’s). Try the switch and wish you luck . Npp has given PIP at 200mg/ml (forgot to mention) but not with 100mg/ml
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Thank you for your input. I've started mixing NPP and Test E3D with a 1", 25g needle. I have been having good results doing that. Longer needle was the solution I believe. I think the shallow IM was recommended to me from a TRT forum - and they just put it in the delts. My dumbass thought quad at 1/2" was okay too lol.
Only time I use a 1” pin is when pinning my delts. Half cc at the most. Anything more than that always gives me PIP. I also ALWAYS slowly rotate my pins while injecting to space it out a little more, and limits any PIP for me. I also heat up every compound I inject, except for HGH. Quads are off limits to me. Never once have I had a successful experience. Always painful for days afterwards. Not sure why, but I gave up. I just ran Winstrol for two weeks every day injections, switching glutes every day, and surprisingly saw great results in only two weeks. I would have probably run it longer but had to leave for vacation and couldn’t risk smuggling gear internationally. Needless to say, I have a whole new respect for Winstrol. Time for a break now, and will cruise test only until sometime in February
Rustyhooker1x25ga....no such thing as shallow....theres proper or theres subq.
It hurt like hell (the PIP or wtf ever that was). I actually like the feeling of the needle going in and pushing the oil or whatever in. I like quad simply for the fact it's easy to reach. I'm pretty stocked up in 1" 25 ga, but some other forums recommended 1/2" for delts for TRT. Then sprinkle in a little if me just being a fucking moron and curiosity and boom.
RustyhookerIf its too shallow it leaks back out into the space...subq...and burns. Eye opener at times too. Lol. Weve all been there before though...trial and error.
That explains it. There also is some literature about SubQ nandrolone I skimmed over. It seemed there could be some good results. However, I didn't like the burn. I like a little PIP though.
I see what I did now. 1" all the way. I don't have any 1.5". I use the 1" for glutes. Maybe I'll get a few of those. I really love the entire process of it all. When I get deep in the muscle, I can feel it. It feels different. I do NPP EOD to give me a reason to pin more often - adjusting dose accidentally.
Shouldn't be any pip from NPP. You need to pin deeper.
Absolutely. Never understood the "shallow" trend some guys opt for these days. Or the sub q route with TRT. Then complain about welts and redness. Live and learn I guess
Well sub q TRT is recommended by some Doctors and it seems to work for some. Nothing wrong with doing sub q for TRT using Prescribed test C it it works.. I'm not into it myself.
I've read about it, and just wanted to give it a go. I think I'm going to do at least a 1" from here. That shallow IM wasn't fun.
Peps are the only thing I would pin SubQ
That's what I was coming to conclude. I do like a deep needle. It feels good.
Some npp is 200 mg
True, I thought about that and thought maybe it's the reason he is getting PIP. Then he mentioned mixing a little Test with the NPP and pinning with 1inch needles and getting no PIP. So to me that verified his NPP isn't high MG dosage lol
I get no PIP from NPP, however I am not a fan of pinning quads. Depending on how much body fat you are carrying, 1/2 needles might be too short. I use 1 inch for basically everything, delts, chest, traps, sometimes glutes, but I much prefer 1.5 on glutes if possible. I hope you have more sites than just quads. Delts are great, 3 injection sites there.Plenty of real estate in the glutes. Pecs are good spot too. Not a fan of injecting bi's, tri's, and quads.Check out spotinjections.com for guides to various injection sites. Good luck