posted Sat, 06/15/2024 - 16:55
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So the power line from our house to the pole arced and the power had to be shut off. I took all my GH and peptides and put them in the freezer to keep them cold. The power line got fixed and I wasn't thinking till I came up to the bedroom. Pulled it out and the HGH was frozen. Question is once its melted back to liquid is it still good? There's about 13ius in there so I'm really hoping it is. Thanks in advance!
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AK80It'll probably still work. You need to take it anyway, it won't hurt you. Only 4 days worth anyway if you do 3iu per day. I've been doing 7.5iu for the past 3 months and didn't really notice much anyway. Taking 50mg Anavar everyday, 400 test per week and 150 Tren per week and 300 Primo per week for the past 2 months. Meh.... nothing much here. Probably need to switch back over to the giant 23 gauge x 1.5" harpoons in my ass. I think the sub-q insulin syringes have lost their magic unfortunately. And yes, everything from the top 5 sources on here in the USA.
There is probably a reason why it says on the instructions of every liquid growth hormone not to freeze. Whether it is automatically unusable, I doubt it. I think it can go through a couple of freeze cycles before it becomes unusable or less potent. Since we don't know what the hormone went through before it reached us, if it's not cloudy or discolored, then I use it.
It liquidized perfectly clear and it was only frozen really for maybe an hour. So I did it anyways and haven't noticed anything different. I think it would maybe depend on how long it's frozen for possibly. Then again once something is frozen it's frozen so maybe that doesn't make much sense. Now if it kept going back and forth from liquid to frozen I would def thing it would degrade it.
I can guarantee getting frozen one time won't be the only thing your HGH kit has gone through, it will of gone through a multitude of temperatures and conditions before even reaching you. Think about the ambient temperature when it is transported from the Lab where its made to the source selling it, is it really stored in a cool and dry place the moment it reaches their warehouse/put in the fridge? The time it is in transit from the source to you etc etc It will of probably been hot and cold many times over. Sure it may arrive looking pretty in chilled packs when it reaches you but that won't be the true story of all its life. Just try keep a look out for the usual signs of HGH working buddy.
I appreciate it bud. Yeah I know it goes through a whirlwind of shit before it gets here and when I really think about it I'm not even sure why I was worried. Maybe if I had a bunch that froze then I should be but just the one is what it is. I know I'm gonna end up doing it anyways in the end lol. I'm on to the next vial tomorrow so I'm gonna just keep moving along.
I would open another vial and switch back and forth eash day until the 13iu is used up
Thought about that but then I was thinking if it is by chance messed up or "contaminated" I wouldn't want it messing up the other im mixing with it. Im just sucking it up and finishing it. It's only a couple days. I'm gonna move up to 4ius tomorrow and in a couple weeks 4.5iu maybe 5iu. You seem to have been around a bit and was wondering if you think splitting it is better at that dosage or just stick to one in the morning? Or what would you prefer personally? Assuming you doing GH that is lol
This is interesting to me because I remember many years ago it being said by growth hormone sources as well as users that freezing post reconstitution would break the chains of amino acids. I’m pleased to hear that it’s most likely safe. I think maybe the fragility of the molecule has been improved over the years.
Yeah I keep hearing about how fragile GH is it's almost like playing that game of walking with an egg on a spoon sometimes lol. Im just gonna do it anyways. I have 2 more shots left in it anyways.
What source is it? They are typically knowledgeable on stuff like this, maybe reach out and see what they say.
I'm thinking it is fragile. This is interesting. Let us know if you still feel something or if anything is different.
I haven't noticed anything different but idk if I really would in a few days. Still sleeping good and recovery is still pretty damn awesome so I would think it's still good. They're the only things I can think of off the top of might head that might be affected. Injection hasn't changed so if maybe it was bad I would feel some injection soreness and I haven't felt sick either. Im assuming it's fine honestly.
If you're sleeping and recovery are still good then there's probably no issues then. I've always wondered about the temperature issue with GH so glad u brought this up. Keep us updated for sure man
anvilThis is an old study but only one I could find on it. 1991 I think.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1798670/
That’s interesting. It seems to suggest that insoluble particulates increase the faster you thaw it after frozen.
Thanks for the link my man
Brainiac! Lol. Love ya my man. Happy Father's day!
anvilMuch love back brother. Thank you
Thanks for that. There doesn't seem to be much even searching on different forums so just hoping for the best and do it then on to the next vial.
anvilHonestly I believe its fine, but you can let us know so we have a real study lol.
Exactly
AK80Has anyone ever noticed anything from any sources of HGH I wonder? What's the minimum amount of time it takes? I'm going on 4 months now and meh........nothing really. I think it's a waste of money. Probably just need to stick to Testosterone, aderall, cialis and maybe some Tren here and there. That's the only stuff that really works. Maybe some Anadrol in the winter to put on a few pounds, but that's all that's EVER worked and I've tried it ALL.
@AK80 to be honest I've heard different things. I would think you would of seen something...a bit of fat loss, better sleep etc using it at 4 months. But alot of times the purity of the GH could be a factor in not seeing results. You aren't the first person to say GH is a waste so I can understand. Lol now you lost me with the anadrol! Hell nah..headache City! And I've never tried Tren so I can't speak on it. Figured no need to at this point. Anyways is your GH from a reputable source? Is it lab tested?
AK80Yes its from the "new guys" on here and I do sleep better. Slight tingle in the hands. Perhaps a bit of fat loss. It's definitely not a primary ingredient in the bodybuilder recipe like steak is to testosterone, so I'd say GH is more like salt or pepper. No headaches with the Anadrol, but lower back pumps hurt like hell. 150mg of Tren is plenty per week and I do need to take breaks from it once in a while. 20mg of Cialis I do get headaches, so just 10mg on M/W/F
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anvilRocket pop?
AK80Those look yummy! The smaller Pedialyte boxes fit in my coat pocket better though. Shhhhhh! Man that shit is expensive too like $12 per box. (hence the pocket....)
Yeah, that’s a 30 pack for $30 at Costco. Cheapest place I’ve found them and still not cheep lol
I drink this on days I play basketball. 1 stick in 32oz of water. No “performance” boosts per se, but it stopped all the mean cramps I’d get afterwards while sitting at home. I used to just drink straight water, and then when I’d get home be sitting there and my calf or hammy would just seize up and take me out lol. My wife would laugh at me while I was on the floor writhing in pain trying to stretch it out. She bought me a pack of this, and I haven’t cramped like that since. If you’re really sweating hard this shit works.
I love hearing that bro. I also have rock solid personal experience with these things working very well for me.
Yet, you scan them with one of those apps and it says they’re trash. I also, have a dear friend that works for a naturopath (who has pro athlete clients) and she says they’re trash. I don’t talk to her about PEDs much lol.
imo liquid iv’s are gold
I’ve tried several of the high end/expensive electrolyte brands. Many were just too much. Sure they worked but could have gotten away with half the mg content. Liquid iv has a more reasonable mineral profile and sugar content.
I’ve learned that a lot of those nutritionists and trainers of pro athletes (or Hollywood stars) are just full of shit and they just try to come up with proprietary fancy bullshit to make themselves seem more valuable than they really are. Then they can charge fuck ton of money to people with money to waste.
Keep It Simple Stupid has always, and will always, work.
”they just try to come up with proprietary fancy bullshit to make themselves seem more valuable than they really are”
Well said bro. Same goes for weight loss and trt clinics. I know quite a few people who have moved on from those places and are providing their own self with a higher standard of treatment for a fraction of the cost. It’s not rocket science.
Hello @23Sparta
For summer electrolyte powder / caps are very interesting <3 !!!!
From my side from around 3 years ago, i use 1g of creatine (CreaPure) to help intracellular hydratio.
Post workout BCAA's / EAA's + Electrolytes + CreaPure + Fast carbohydrates , that's help a lot during summer time <3
@lundgren yes absolutely
I never considered using creatine solely for the purpose of maintaining intra cellular fluid. That makes sense to me. I think I’ll add some to my supplement stack. Good idea
Yes, for hydrat 1g are suffisant, but think about the glycemia, because some user report hypoglycemia if the creatine are not stacked with glucide.
If you buy creatine, take the label "CreaPure" (it's made in germany and it's the best creatine monohydrate)
Sounds good to me. I’m gonna find a CreaPure creatine on Amazon right now. Nice too because at 1g dosage, it will last a long time. My goal for the next several months is to maintain muscle mass on TRT and remain in the highest state of health possible
Creapure has always been the best mate and its pretty cheap too, the powder is micronized for better mixing also so it isn't as gritty. Be aware though that it does increase your creatinine level in your bloodwork so it makes your eGFR look worse - basically gives a false positive which is where all the hoo haa came from in the early days about it knackering the kidneys.
Nice, that’s what I have coming, CreaPure. I think it’s already here actually. Interesting I didn’t know that’s why creatine got that reputation of being renal toxic. Makes sense right? I think I’ve heard that it begins converting into creatinine, after a period of time, while mixed in water. Good info Press. I do lots of bloods so I’ll see if there’s anything crazy. I had a CMP from a month ago and I’m pulling another one soon, for other reasons. I was only gonna use 1g creatine like lundgren suggested, but now that I have it in my hand, I’m feeling greedy. Stuff works well for me at the performance dosages. I kinda wanna puff up a little bit.
So what do you think about 3-5g daily? I’ll be good?
Shoot for 5g per day mate as your basic dose, I know many quote a maintenance dose of 3g but I think they say this to err on the side of caution. Some guys like to go for 10g per day, I guess a lot will also depend on bodyweight and the amount required to fully saturate the muscle mass you have on you too. Through my trials I found somewhere in the middle of there around 7 to 8g's to be great for lifting - but the problems for me started to happen when I'd be stood at the petrol pump and what I'd think would be a fairly harmless fart would turn out to be the Dreaded Shart!!! LMFAO Shoot for 5g per day, tends to be after about 4 to 5 days when you feel it greatly helping training and reducing rest periods, less out of breath moments etc. You can of course do the 20g per day loading phase but I find the high doses make me feel nauseous, so the gradual loading makes it much easier on the stomach.
Lmfao Press I’m dyyyying picturing you at the gas pump shitting yourself. Fucking sucks huh? It’s alright though, means you’re a top of the food chain apex predator. I’m pretty sure lions would shit themselves if they wore pants.
Yeah, that’s my understanding too. Skip the loading phase and you will still achieve peak saturation in time. I’m not in any rush and I’m not trying to pull a Press1 at the pump either
I’ve already shit myself twice recently from being on metformin. One of the main side effects of that wonder drug
Worst part is you then have to get back in the car and sit on it in your boxer shorts LMAO Drive home, change - head back out! I believe at 5g per day you hit peak saturation in 30 days. It helps tendons recover too.
Bro, I farted sitting on the couch the other day, and ended up leaving a wet spot. If you come over, just don’t sit on right hand side by the lamp.
30 days seems right, and who doesn’t need some connective tissue rejuvenation at our age? Lmao
I'll try to remember that after I've just got off the 11 hour flight over there LMFAO!!!
I take a fruit puree or compote apple, pear, banana (sugar only from fruit) and i add 1g of creatine inside and i mix it with a teaspoon.
TRT with a little extra "Methenolone Enanthate" are a amazing combo, it's safe, great for your goal, not just for maintaining or gained muscle mass, Primo help the immune system too and add a side like well-being <3
I like fruit/vegetable puree. Sometimes I treat myself and buy some high quality baby food to eat.
Yes, I agree methenolone is a wonderful compound. I just have to be careful with it, for me personally, primo will drastically lower my E2.
You eat baby food?
Yeah, lol, I do eat baby food. Next time I pick up this one, I’m gonna show you a pic of the nutrition label and ingredients. It’s like $7 a serving, so only a treat for me, but calling it a superfood wouldn’t do it justice
Much respect on that one. Yea saying it's a super food does it no justice for sure. Plenty of nutrients. I think I remember a bodybuilder doing the same thing