What is the cutoff level for needing TRT
I'm wondering what most doc's consider the low end of Test before suggesting TRT. I just got my pre cycle bloods back and test serum was at 428. I've had mild symptoms of low test, but not too bad. I think I've probably had lower test levels my whole life.
For instance, my voice is not low.. it's not exactly high but I often get referred to as "mam" when a telemarketer calls.
I have a total of 6 chest hairs, 3 on each nip.
Libido has been pretty normal, and I have wood most mornings.
I recently discovered I had celiac disease, an auto immune disease. I think that this may have screwed with my hormones. I found it interesting that when I first quit gluten I had a huge spike in my Test levels, I felt Alpha as shit for about a month, then the feeling tapered off. That spike in test is what got me in the gym for the first time, I felt like Arnold stuck in PeeWee Hermans body.
I've been chasing that alpha feeling ever since!
I'm one week into a Test E cycle, Waiting for the alpha feeling to come back!
- Bookmark
- 0
- 0
Wow, I seem to have you all beat. I'm 40, my test level when I had it checked last was 98. My doctor only has put me on andro gel but I hate it, my wife and kids can't touch me and I worry about accidental contact. So, I got a hold of someone on this site and he hooked me up with some very good test-c to take. Needless to say, my next blood test my test was 3500! My doctor scared the shit out of my wife telling her something is "wrong" with me and I need to come in. We'll, I'm coming in on Friday 12/6/13 for another blood test. I've been off the test-c for two weeks and only taking the prescribed andro gel since then. I hope to explain my concerns to my doctor and he puts me on prescribed test-c or e at a low dose.
I wish it was as simple as slapping a patch or rubbing some gel on my ass, and walking around with a level of 900 without shutting down. But it's not.... so I'll make the best of my 428 level.
Most docs won't put you on TRT unless you are below the "low range" of the test, which is usually at 250-300.
Anondocs are very screwed up when it comes to whats normal IMO anything below 500 is low... the average test level of a 65 yo is around 500 so what does that tell you... levels of 200-300 you def need something...
My levels without test are 423 but I had very little libido at 37 years old. I think people focus too much on a number, especially docs, and don't judge based on how they feel. If you feel good and had low test, but never had a blood test, you would never know you had low test. If you feel shitty, chances are you would start to figure it out at some point.
Everyone is different. Some people can thrive off the lower end, some people need to be mid to high range to feel good/great.
I was 28 with levels of about 260
was that before ever taking steroids? or kinda low from taking them?
Lmfao I know plenty of juiced out monsters with squeeky voices.. gear isn't going to help your voice much..
Now if your quality of life is suffering then sure talk more with your doc about trt.. but it doesn't sound like it.. btw how old are you?
Bro, my voice got much deeper on my last cycle. I loved it. I sounded like a radio announcer. Now it's back to normal off cycle.
Thank you for calling moviephone lol
LMAO! I actually was considering a job in the industry. But it's like being an actor trying to get work - needing an agent and all that goes with it.
45 years old. I like to remind myself that my voice is deeper than Mike Tyson's
And it is weird how libido works. My last natty test was 550'ish, libido is still nothing like it was 3-5 years ago.
My natty test 2 years ago before starting AAS was 350, and today it's 335 and my pecker still works just fine, and I'm horny all the time. As a matter of fact the one and only time I've ever had any issues what so ever with it was on my last cycle once I started Anavar toward the end of the cycle - first time using Var. It would get hard as fuck, but then randomly just go completely limp during sex. It drove me freaking nuts.
so your considering TRT to feel alfa or to have a deeper voice? if you have a good libido theres no need for TRT, especially if your having wood every morning.
No, wasn't ready to go on TRT just yet. Just wondering how low people go before therapy. The idea of TRT for life is not appealing. I did see a few TRT websites that suggested 425 was low enough to need it. When you make the call based on "how you feel" things can get hard to interpret.
I just happened to get my levels tested for the first time ever, and was curious as to how my numbers compare to the average for a 45 yo male.
428 is not bad. it usually has to be low 200's to be a likely candidate for TRT. And usually docs should run blood tests for everything including thyroid hormones and other blood values. Also pituitary should checked out to make sure no irregularities.
You shouldn't even consider TRT if you have good libido. Your deep or non deep voice means nothing.