posted Sun, 11/03/2013 - 11:28
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Some HGH has e-coli?
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Saw a mention in a post about UGL products having trace amounts of E-coli. Is that true? sounds terrible!
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I had bad issues from hygetropin, i think you read my post. I feel very bad body, nausea,dizziness anisety and very tired, like ill. To be sincerealy i dont know why. When i stop hyges, about after a week the symphons stop. Im under too stress maybe this not help. Still i have hyges but i don use it. Same batch as many people, and for they works well :/
Not red welts, no pain inject or pip. I start from 3iu and then raise 4iu no more 5 months of use. Symphtoms not always, some days i feel good, but otehr weeks i felt like il, shit.... Sadly very good results on my body, but bad sides are too weak, cant job or have a normal life.I would like to know Why this happens,,,
In this context, what J223 said is very relevant and worthy. The Ecoli residue is not the only issue. Generic's lack of quality control and substandard production techniques can cause severe reactions. Unless lion-o does a full spectrum analysis on his GH, no one can say what causes his reaction.
There are constant posts about neg. reactions to generic HGH. Some people even think HYges and Rips are pharma. Which is why it is so important to start HGH, especially generic, slowly. I want to stress starting at 2iu for at least 3 weeks and checking your reaction before ramping up.
The problem, and it amazes me, is that some people don't read and are too willing to inject cheap generics into their bodies without understanding the product.
I start a few days with 2.5 and don feel nothing, so i rase to 3iu. When start to feel bad, my BP was high, as i and Because i was running a cyle of aas, i blame to this drugs not to HGH. But this bad body and nervous was from HGH cause i keep it alone and some weeks was very bad. My Bp dow to normal, but bad feeling, dizness and anxiety adn stomact issue keep some weeks. Only when i stop, i realize that it was from HGH...never run more than 4iu, and for me is strange tah my body not accustom casue i run this stuff 5 months. I think too maybe affect to my sugar levels, but no always (i did 2 blood test, sugar was right).
Feel for you man, sounds like you better just avoid that stuff. When I googled it I read that they used to get hgh from cadavers instead of the ecoli brew. maybe you can find some cadaver grade stuff.
cadaver extracted HGH is old and no longer used. Now made using recombinant DNA technology.
basically a fragment of DNA that codes for a protein HGH is inserted into a vector which will be inserted into a host cell.
E. Coli is the host cell. The vectors used are suitable for expressing that specific signals needed to express the genes.
The bacteria produce clones that produce large amounts of hGH.
fermentation and purification of the produced HGH will give a high purity E.coli polypeptide. This is almost exactly genetically identical to pituitary HGH. Antibodies can't really distinguish between natually produced and the newly made polypep.
Nice. I think I would prefer the Ecoli based. Was that horse cadavers?
Human, LOL, it's not Horse Growth Hormone, Human Growth Hormone.
and I started on 0.5IU the first week and was 3 weeks before I was at 2IU, still had sides of nerve pain and 50% loss of function of ulnar nerve.
Holy crap, you're right. Prior to 1985 they pulled Cadaver GH out of donor brains...Then the Met-hGH (192AA). Then in 1993 Genentech came up with the Ecoli with a spliced human gene to secrete rhGH(191AA)
Brains??? I think I would just pass on that. At least now we know where the zombies will come form. Anyone who took that shit.
Great story!
HGH IS MADE FROM E.COLI !!!!!
that doesn't mean it's dangerous. It's also used to produce insulin.
Before switching to Genotropin, I used HYGE .com.cn (green and brown tops) for 15 days in a row and I never had any problem with lumps, redness, ... or other things like this (I started 6iu ED and then 10iu ED).
About 50% of people can use 192aa and not have any problems with the extra acid. Other products, even though they are 191aa, will have variation in purity. About 20%of people will have difficulty with hygetropin if it's legit. Even pharma could cause welts in 1-3%. Kefei, taitropin...less pure, more problems.
Once your body gets used to the welts, you'll be ok. I am back on hyges now even though they gave me some mild welts. But i still think you're a little crazy for starting off at 6. I'm glad it worked out for you but i don't think you should encourage others. I'm not trying to start a flame war. Just think about it. A couple other guys here had some major issues.
I don't encourage any other guys to start at 6iu.
I just share my experience.
HGH is made from e-coli. cheaper hgh has e-coli bacterial residue and causes antibody formation causing red welts. They can make it cheaper because they don't use a rigorous filtration process. Also, generic may not be all 191aa and your body may develop antibodies against 192aa strains.
wrong. ALL hgh is e-coli bacteria!!!
ALL HGH CAUSES ANTIBODY FORMATION even serostim, saizen, genotropin, norditropin!!!
this isn't the only reason why it is cheaper. fillers used, quality of material, and lack of strict regulations, are the main reasons why chineese HGH is cheaper.
ALL HGH CAUSES ANTIBODY FORMATION even serostim, saizen, genotropin, norditropin!!!
I am aware. That is why the above post states that even pharma may cause red welts. It is the bacterial residue the OP was concerned with. The amount of residue increases the likelihood of a negative reaction. HGH is NOT E-coli. It is made from E-coli secretions. Because they skimp on filtrations the amounts of trace residue bacteria are greater in generics, but even pharma has some. Of course everything else is cheaper in generics. it does not need to be said.
Hey, how do you make the quote yellow?
Put a > in front of the desired quote at the beginning of the line
Your right!
Well I can't say for 100% but I will say that I recently bought some hgh and after pinning for 3 days I started getting lumps and redness and pain at all injection sites. After posting about it on here I done some reading and yes sometimes hgh does get contaminated in the process of making it and the lumps I got was more than likely E. coli. And the redness and pain was my own body fighting off the E. coli. I went straight to the source and they resolved the issue beyond all my expectations and I have now been pinning GH for 2 kits now at 5 iu ed. I have no lumps or pain and my sides are the usual sides of GH. Getting bloods done to make sure they are legit soon. But yea GH with E. coli is def out there!!
Woahh. I hope not. That's awful. Waiting for an educated reply.