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HCG while on cycle. Adjusting dose ?

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Hi guys,

I was researching about the usage of HCG while on cycle, and there is something I think I'm missing.

I know an effective way to prevent your balls to shrink is taking (like) 250 iu E3D.

Additionally, everybody know that a very effective first cycle would be around Test-e 500 mg/week.

The point is, if you're taking HCG, you're keeping your balls producing endogenous testosterone wich will add to the exogenous one. So ... Have you to lower the test dosage whether you're taking HCG or not?

Peace.

smokenu2's picture

Chemari I agree with Evader. Also would have your labs done every 6 mos no less than a year. Don't forget to do a E2 test. You can buy home kit to be mailed in will save you lots of money. pm me will send you some home test sites. You should also take a low does of estrogen control also. When your body converts synthetic testosterone you artomose accurse causing increases estrogen levels.

chemari's picture

I have Asin on hand. Hopefully it's legit (ADC) because lately I've read some complaints.

chemari's picture

I agree, but just when you look for advice.

Mine was a theoretical question.

Peace.

Evader's picture

yes running HCG will raise your test levels and your should lower the amount of test that you're injecting accordingly. You sound like you have a good idea of what you're doing. I run 200mg/week of lab grade test e and then do 250iu of HCG twice per week. The proper thing to do is blood tests and then adjust your test dose accordingly.

marjubb's picture

I know normal test leval are at 380 to 1000 umm mine is 429 my friend is on hrt and 200mg a week put his test at 800 so he has no side effects been doing it for a year.I think we dont need to get crazy with the dosage to get good results i have done a cycle of 250 a week with human grade testoviron and had veins and cuts like you would not believe , all this stuff above 500 mg start putting our test way above the body capability to control it , is when we get into problems got to take all kinds of junk cancer drugs etc etc and who knows the long term affect later on I think moderation is the key good blood tests and see where your at and make the adjustments.

chemari's picture

That's what I thought. So, most of the info you can find out there is telling people to run 500 mg of test-e and don't mind if they are running HCG or not.

I think that's wrong and if your natty test level was high before HCG you can end with much more free test in the organism than what was expected, leading you to sides.

Bloodwork is alway a good idea, but it seems most of labs have an upper detection limit of >1500, so you don't know if you're 1501 or 5100.

marjubb's picture

ok is their a number to look for ,say 1200 for eg so you know at this point the body is converting to estrogen, so begin ai also maybe you dont need test this high and you could lower the dosage , still build great muscle, dont need to take an AI.. it comes down to getting the numbers right , im new to the game but im sure there is an exact amount for test and estrogen which if you go over its just counter productive , and side effects start to begin.. ?

Evader's picture

I think it's much better to run HCG with the HRT. It's not purely cosmetic, for me I was getting pain in the nuts from atrophy. Also sometimes small nuts would go up inside me after sex, not cool. Plus I'm not that old and want to keep the possibility of having kids available.

Adding HCG might raise your levels by 50mg/week compared to using test only. It definitely won't be like having 500mg which would be way way too much for HRT. I think most people are doing 100-200 test per week for HRT.

KMC's picture

A blood test is a wonderful thing,.............and answers a lot of questions at the same time.

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chemari's picture

Agree, but sadly some other question remains unanswered.

Refer to my reflexion about upper detection limit for test. ^^^^

joeyboxadonuts's picture

If I'm not mistaken a replacement dose of Test-e would be somewhere between 100 and 200mg/week so if you wanted to lower the dose you could but it wouldn't be dangerous in anyway not to. That being said you could easily get away with a lower dosage for your first cycle and it's not a bad idea since you don't know how your body will respond since you have never done it.