First old fart cycle.
First of all, a little background:
I’m 40 y.o. with a long experience in natty bb. I’m 180 cm 84 kg 15 % B.F. (estimated).
I have all the stuff to go on my first cycle. In fact, I had everything ready for September, but my pre-bloodwork came back with an elevated ALT (64 IU ----> 0-40 UI) and a little elevated cholesterol (240 ----> <200 ).
So I spent september taking some milk thistle and fish oil, getting my diet in check and doing much more cardio. Then I did more bloodwork and my ALT is now (41 IU ----> 0-40 UI) and cholesterol (180 ----> <200 ).
I will take 500 mg/week of test-e with a 4 weeks of d-bol at 30 mg/day. As I’m an old fart, I’m taking also:
12,5 mg Asin EOD. I’m not taking A-dex because I know it is harshest on lipids profile.
500 IU / week HCG Hucog subQ.
1 gram Milk thisthle + 1 gram NAC trhougout the first 4 weeks, and 6 caps a day of LIV 52 the rest of the cycle.
300 – 600 mg a day of saw palmetto for prostate support.
I have also on hand and for PCT (or whenever I need): Nolva, clomid and Letro.
And now, my questions:
1) Do you think my bloodwork shows I’m ready to start? I’ve seen that ALT is considered normal within 8-50 for most labs out there. I will have bloodwork done in week 3 or 4.
2)What else you'd take for lipids profile? Something like policosanol? I'm prone to elevated cholesterol if I don't have a strict diet, so I believe that the cycle will mess my lipids.
3)If gyno happends, What is the best protocol to follow with the ancillaries I have?
I would know the experience of some of you in my age range.
Best regards.
Chemari.
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Hi,
yes I was thinking about adding tamoxifen 10-20 mg because I've been told by a friend that tamox is good for lipids profile. But in the other hand, it seems that nolva can lower IGF-1. I find over the internet mixed emotions about SERM-AI combo.
Never heard of raloxifene before, so I'll take a look on this one. If you have more info on raloxifene (dosage and combos) please let me know.
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I've checked some info about raloxifene and seems it lower SHBG. Additionaly in my country is not prescribed as a SERM. It´s for post menopausal women's bones.
AnonRaloxifene doesnt affect IGF-1 at all that is why i suggested it. 60mg ed is just fine
I have a cycle on this forum loads of info on raloxifene there. It doesnt affect the effectiveness of aromasin so there is no problem with the combo. 12.5mg ed aromasin and 60mg ed or raloxifene should be just fine. The effect on lipids of raloxifene is the same as tamoxifen.
As far as i know it increases shgb havent seen anywhere that states it lowers it. You can source it from alldaychemist very cheap. As far as the bone thing goes better have an agonist for your bones rather than your uterus... Bone density is good for bodybuilding
Good advice rods. Thank you a lot.
The good of tamox without the bad. I'll search the forum for your cycle. I'm always on learning mode.
Regards.
tread-mChem I think if you're getting answers you dont like you are likely asking the wrong questions. Happy to start a conversation with you about HRT, which should be on your mijnd. All of your issues are coming from a hormone imbalance and putting you on a roller coaster of highs and back to low wont fix that. Diet and lifestyle are important but until you get the hormones balanced it is 100 times as hard for you as it is for a 25 year old. How about we put your hpg axis back to a 25 year old standard and do it right?
I'm talking to an endo. I want him to prescribe me an hormonal panel, but he's suspicious on what I need it for.
Big arms and chest doesn't help a lot... :-))
tread-mIf any trouble you can hit up these clinics for drug testing and pre-employment. Most will run for you...may have to find one thatt will run the growth panel, not as many of those.
I hope to convince the endocrine I'm visiting, but thanks for the advice.
AnonSince you are worried about lipids and you are taking dbol have you thought of adding a serm to your stack? I found raloxifene protects very well for gyno and will definately help with your lipids. Your cholesterol wasnt too bad before you lowered it. Aromasin is a great choice but will still have an indirect effect on your lipids. Since you are lowering estrogen you will always affect your lipid profile no matter what. If you add raloxifene though it will help to keep your lipids in check and with aromasin you will be fully protected against gyno.
The liver protection you will be running sounds great but if i was you i would be running tests like once a month while on cycle. You might find liv52 too strong btw so best run a test after your dbol run and if all is ok stick with milk thistle throughout. Watch your diet and keep doing cardio and i am sure you will be fine.