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E2 too low for one may be optimal for another?

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Hey guys, what’s YOUR optimal estradiol range? Is it normal for some to feel and look better on lower estradiol? For me, 20s is perfect. my heads on straight and erections are amazing but any higher even on blast just makes me feel worse overall. Has anyone had a similar experience?

HarryKeogh's picture

Check out the YouTube channel called Balance My Hormones, specifically a video from 4 days ago called STOP Blaming Oestrogen! The Truth About Estradiol & TRT. A doctor that has done a long study in the topic gave some great information.

Mback76's picture

50-60 for me cruising, i can deal with 40s but any lower and my shoulders start to hurt, I also turn into a little bitch and get depressed.

If i am blasting with mast I like 140ish range. Anything over 150 im crying singing songs and shit

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Antg93's picture

I'm a ball of stress at 30 and under

crystal_test's picture

Low E2 gives me roid rage. If I’m below 15, everyone around me is fucked. I do well at 50-70 on cycle and off around 30-40. Above 75-80, I’ll get weepy. That forces me to take really low dose AI just to nudge it down a smidge.

E2 affects my mood and how I feel wayyyyyy more than Test levels ever do. I can be 3000+ Test and feel normal, but my E2 get out of whack I’m either angry or crying myself to sleep for no fucking reason.

TeaBody's picture

20-30 feels good for me too man, I look better at those ranges as well. Howver single digits fuck me

themaster5's picture

FINALLY ONE OTHER PERSON WHO HAS THIS TOO!! I couldn’t find one person who felt better at these levels. And yeah, single digits is just about hell on earth

TeaBody's picture

Last labs were 17, a little lower than I like, I felt good, held zero water however I was tired mid-day. No joint aches or sexual problems at 17

One thing that I’ve noticed in the 20-30 range is appetite is gone and really hard to gain weight but if that’s the goal, which it was, it worked out well

themaster5's picture

Can I ask, do you also get sexual problems if your e2 came back higher than 30ish?

TeaBody's picture

It does not.. over 100 yes

TrainElite's picture

If you're making a big push for size then if you're smart, you're running your GH pretty high, and to maximize the conversion of those higher GH serum blood levels you'll need higher estrogen levels to properly use and convert that into a higher total IGF-1 number. So for an avid GH user during a blast that's always something to keep in mind and prepare your e2 levels to maximize the usage of your GH and not just waste it. I know this wasn't exactly your question but this is a great example of how various factors can change what your optimal e2 numbers might need to be at a certain time vs certain other times. I like my e2 much lower during a cut same as most pros do, some even crush it towards the end of contest prep to make sure they are completely as dry as possible. And of course much higher during a blast when I'm pushing GH and food really hard.

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themaster5's picture

You can say you need more e2 when using gh, but with increased e2 above what is necessary will increase IGFBP (igf binding proteins) which actually “inactivate” your igf1. So you need a good amount of e2 to actually get some conversion but an excessive amount will make your igf work worse.

Jockstrap's picture

Map your body. Write it all down for YOU. Not fred who thinks cuckoo is good....but real ranges.

Spool's picture

60-80 for me.

Pumped_'s picture

70 for me. Estrogen is my best friend for growth and the lubrication from water feels great on my joints

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FlemDaddyKush's picture

Well if people actually know about estrogen, during cycle most prefer it at the higher side rather than low. Estro builds muscle, so during cycle you want it higher than cruising. During trt cruises there's not much need to have it elevated besides if you want to have a higher sex drive. Estrogen is not always the enemy, males do need it too. But everybody is gonna have a different opinion on this, I'm not saying any bodies answer is wrong.

Codeman253's picture

I'm starting to believe more in the test to e2 ratio the longer I've been at this. I've felt crashed at 30 and I've also felt perfect at 30, just depends on how much test I'm on

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Dukes173's picture

It’s interesting how different everyone is. 20’s would feel way too low for me. I’d feel terrible. It depends on how many androgens are present but i usually need mine over 50, even on TRT. I’ve had it at 80-100 during a blast on sensitive assay and still felt pretty good

KingRoni88's picture

I'm pretty similar to you. 20's I feel like death. 45 to 55 and all is right with the world. I also go by E2 sensitive now that I've been educated on it, thanks to the forum.

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themaster5's picture

Even on blast with multiple androgens 20s is perfect. I also don’t aromatize much at all so maybe my body is just acclimated to those levels. When I try to raise it I get terrible ED and some bloat especially in the face

BigCoachKen's picture

50-60 range for me

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